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They do if the law requires people in Norway to read the contracts to which they agree. The information is in the T&Cs and Update Release Notes notes.

See https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1893?locale=en_US

Actually NO it does not!

ALL it states in all those release notes is the followzing for 10.2.1:

It also improves power management during peak workloads to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone.


Wow, thats Apple REALLY telling you they will deliberately slow your phone down....
So unless anyone has anything else to add, it’s quite clear Apple DID NOT inform its customer base it would now be deliberately slowing down their devices!
Can people please stop lying as again it’s quite clear Apple did NOT include in any of its release notes what it has been doing for over a year!
Apple will be in trouble over this next year with regulators across the globe I think.
 
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Actually NO it does not!

ALL it states in all those release notes is the followzing for 10.2.1:

It also improves power management during peak workloads to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone.


Wow, thats Apple REALLY telling you they will deliberately slow your phone down....
So unless anyone has anything else to add, it’s quite clear Apple DID NOT inform its customer base it would now be deliberately slowing down their devices!
Can people please stop lying as again it’s quite clear Apple did NOT include in any of its release notes what it has been doing for over a year!
Apple will be in trouble over this next year with regulators across the globe I think.

I would not be surprised if the FTC launches an investigation early next year.
 
I have to agree with this. The culture of absolute secrecy forces this to be an issue instead of expected behavior.

I can see both sides of this. While Joe User might expect "Hey, we're slowing you're phone down because you're battery can't handle it" to be flashed in their face, I can also see Apple's perspective as a software developer. You shouldn't realistically be expected to tell the user every little thing you are doing in your software to help improve the stability of your product. 99% of the time, crashing / unexpected shutdowns always lose out to performance, period. What if the slow down still allows you to finish typing that email or message you were in the middle of writing? Wouldn't that be better than just unexpectedly shutting down while you were in the middle of it, making you lose everything you had just done? I know which I would pick as a user...
 
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I can see both sides of this. While Joe User might expect "Hey, we're slowing you're phone down because you're battery can't handle it" to be flashed in their face, I can also see Apple's perspective as a software developer. You shouldn't realistically be expected to tell the user every little thing you are doing in your software to help improve the stability of your product. 99% of the time, crashing / unexpected shutdowns always lose out to performance, period. What if the slow down still allows you to finish typing that email or message you were in the middle of writing? Wouldn't that be better than just unexpectedly shutting down while you were in the middle of it, making you lose everything you had just done? I know which I would pick as a user...

Yes the "fix" is better then the phone shutting off.

But the "fix" is a cover up for the fact the batteries weren't specified correctly.
 
keep in mind slowing down the processor affects more than just iOS performance, what about the developers, they make an app optimized for a certain CPU speed, now they got to make sure their app runs fine throttled down

you know, the apps and games that say 6s or higher phones, etc...
 
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Lol...no we aren’t. This is merely a blip. Remember antennagate? These consumer driven suits always fizzle out. Resistance is futile.

You underestimate Apple’s power to settle this and overestimate the impact. This isn’t even a one sided argument with clear right and wrong. Apple might even argue their position successfully and pay nothing.

LOL at you trying to draw a parallel between antennagate and the TCiBS. There is nothing remotely similar about the two.
 
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They do if the law requires people in Norway to read the contracts to which they agree. The information is in the T&Cs and Update Release Notes notes.

See https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1893?locale=en_US

"It also improves power management during peak workloads to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone."

Apple is going to get a free pass since that's not playing with words or misleading at all. It would confuse consumers if Apple had used "slows down phone" instead of "improves power management".
 
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LOL at you trying to draw a parallel between antennagate and the TCiBS. There is nothing remotely similar about the two.

Antennagate seems worse. Not being able to make a handheld phone call at all when brand new versus the phone app launching a few seconds slower two years later? (if you were too far from the nearest cell tower in the wrong direction, etc.)
 
"It also improves power management during peak workloads to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone."

Apple is going to get a free pass since that's not playing with words or misleading at all. It would confuse consumers if Apple had used "slows down phone" instead of "improves power management".

except they mislead with that statement. phone rebooted, nothing "peak" running and 911 Mhz CPU speed. I changed out battery and phone shows 1848 Mhz. Explain that.

lets lower power of the CPU during intensive tasks, yea that makes alot of sense and cripples computing power of device.

power management would be slowing the CPU when idle to conserve energy and battery life and putting the throttle down when the CPU cycles are needed

this is more and more sounding like poor design choices...

if your gonna build a race car, its gonna need high octane race fuel to perform as designed and if that fuel supply runs out in a year, you need to advertise as such
 
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keep in mind slowing down the processor affects more than just iOS performance, what about the developers, they make an app optimized for a certain CPU speed, now they got to make sure their app runs fine throttled down

you know, the apps and games that say 6s or higher phones, etc...
...what?

Who in the hell is developing against a certain CPU frequency? What in God’s name are you talking about, that’s not how development for iOS works at all.
 
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Simple. dont upgrade the software.

Of course Apple could implement a "Turn of battery management" switch, then all the complainers can complain their iphones shut down instead.

Or Apple could engineer a phone that doesn't spaz out a year or two after release unless it's surreptitiously sheathed with an iCondom.
 
...what?

Who in the hell is developing against a certain CPU frequency? What in God’s name are you talking about, that’s not how development for iOS works at all.


This is what I’m talking about. Get a little more knowledgeable.


GRID™ Autosport by Feral Interactive Ltd https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/grid-autosport/id1179421849?mt=8

why does this need a 6s or higher to run ? And 2 gig of ram isn’t the answer as the air 2 isn’t in the compatibility list. Tell me since you are all knowing in iOS development.

http://www.feralinteractive.com/en/games/gridautosport-ios/requirements/
 
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Unethical? :confused:

I think it's an honest mistake. I too would have assumed everyone here would know the meaning of the word.

un·eth·i·cal
ˌənˈeTHək(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: unethical
  1. not morally correct.
    "it is unethical to torment any creature for entertainment"
    synonyms: immoral, amoral, unprincipled, unscrupulous, dishonorable, dishonest, wrong, deceitful, unconscionable, unfair, fraudulent, underhanded, wicked, evil, sneaky, corrupt; More
 
Antennagate seems worse. Not being able to make a handheld phone call at all when brand new versus the phone app launching a few seconds slower two years later? (if you were too far from the nearest cell tower in the wrong direction, etc.)
Remember the other day when you asserted Android phones were slowed down out if the box?

"Android vendors do that. They seem to underclock their processors to the lowest common denominator at the end of life of a normally aged 2 year old battery. So no slow down over time is needed, since they screwed customers by slowing down their processor out of the box brand new."

You were asked to provide some evidence of this, but haven't bothered (because it's b.s).
Why would anyone take anything else you say to be vaguely truthful..
 
Power management = slowing down overall computing performance. Best X-Mas gift ever.

Older "computer/phone" runs slower when new "computer/phone" is released. Second best X-Mas gift ever.
 
This throttlegate could be blown out of proportion in these forums like previous issues. It still doesn't make Apple right. Apologists can look at as no big deal all they want. It's a forced upon "problem" to speed up the obsolescence by using the finite life of the battery cycles and then slowing them down.

The iPhone X will probably win some awards for best smartphone of the year but it's like Lance Armstrong's legacy. Tarnished. The X is like The Last Jedi where I waited two years only to come up disappointed. Pixel 2 XL or Note8 should be candidates for best smartphone of the year.

Valued a trillion. Do they even deserve being worth that much? Overpriced good products but no more integrity.
The Pixel 2? Yeah, a crap screen with a dipped in plastic body, no headphone jack after making fun of Apple, huge bezels, and an actual plastic button?

The $800B is more than deserved as the market determines value and still cheap with their earning power. They are going to push $60B in profit in 2018. You know how crazy that is?
 
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And there is so much missing in Apple's explanation about this being about balancing battery vs. performance. If that were the case, why does my fourth generation iPod touch work quickly and without random shutdowns?

Your fourth generation iPod Touch has a smaller screen (which uses less power) and less hardware components drawing power (no LTE/GPS, etc.).

Also, that device isn't capable of running the newer versions of iOS that may require increased power output from the battery, so not really a valid comparison.
 
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