yes, I will do this when it is time
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Apple Being Sued for 'Purposefully Slowing Down Older iPhone Models' [Updated]
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It's the only thing you need to know. Battery charge doesn't tell you anything. Check battery health with lirum device info lite. Go into tools>battery and it will tell your battery health.
Are they mutually exclusive?
Here they are;
1.Slowing down devices
2.Frivolous excuse for #1
3. Failure to disclose #1 until a few days ago
4. Consequences of #1 namely buying a new battery for phones still under warranty...
The fact people here are saying the benchmarks are lying is insane. Why can’t people admit Apple F****D up. They will pay the price for this. It happens. It’s how a company deals with it is what really matters. They can come out looking good. Replace the batteries for these phones. Not a hard decision, but it will cost $$$
Give us a new 4 inch iPhone, Apple, maybe then we will forgive you
yeah but not one of those special feature phones please
don't care about gillette .. got a nice beard ..
maybe I should ditch the iphone and switch to smoke signs now that I think of it
would blend in with the beard quite perfectly
It’s always interesting to me, after I join a new thread here, to see how wildly off topic a thread drifts after a few hundred posts let alone 2000 like this one. Does anyone remember what this thread is about at this point?? Lol..
Merry/Happy Christmas all who celebrate it!!
Merry/Happy Christmas all who celebrate it!!
Really? You don't want software updates? Do you remove the OS after purchase? Old batteries don't work as well. There are two possible outcomes - either the phone occasionally shuts down or the phone occasionally gets throttled. They chose throttled. How is that even slightly unethical, let alone "highly" unethical? What they didn't do was communicate it well. Apple's really good at not communicating the technical details. If you have a gripe that's where it should be.
They need to align this along iOS and watchOS. I’ve had the poor battery life on my Apple Watch, with AppleCare+ and was prepared to pay for a replacement under the AppleCare+ service program. However, I was denied that opportunity because my battery was showing some 97% health, yet on a bike ride workout I was getting between 2-3 hours of tracking where Apple claimed 5 hours+ and I had proof that it did last for 5 hrs less than 12 months prior.
It was an entirely different experience than I had previously with an iPhone 5 that had battery issues. In that case, Apple replaced the phone on the spot. I feel that the diagnostic is too aggressive and leaves the customer with too little negotiating power. I walked out feeling like Apple has reduced their standards.
You think Apple is going to become a trillion dollar company by innovation?
The same car battery that is user replaceable and available at just about any shop that sells car parts?
Ah, the good old days. Apple may have started a lucrative trend in making batteries not user-replaceable. Sears, known for car batteries, wouldn’t even try to replace the battery in my Jeep Grand Cherokee and it took the dealer the better part of a day.
Before this broke a customer was least likely to attribute slowing to battery and most likely to attribute it to age. So while Apple never forced nobody to upgrade,that’s exactly what they strongly implied
Wrong. Sorry, but you need to study battery engineering bit more.
When Li-ion batteries age, not only is energy capacity reduced, but internal resistance (as in milliOhms) increases. Subtract the V = IR losses due to battery impedance, and you will learn that higher loads at higher resistance decreases available voltage output. Thus load IS part of the equation.
Apple’s power management appears to tune processor power to match available battery voltage (or VA, Volt-Amps). That voltage (and total VA) decreases as the battery normally ages thru use.
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Exactly. All this conspiracy theory nonsense.. sheesh.. and a class action suit when Apple’s trying to help... no good deed goes unpunished..
I really do think when the dust settles they'll give us more useful battery metrics in iOS and revamp battery troubleshooting procedures in the stores so phones brought in for diagnostics won't leave in the same condition they walked in with.
P.S. Phycologists would have a field day with this thread studying it from a "mob mentality" perspective. A lot of witches were burned without a trial.
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I feel it’s more that Apple has traditionally been used to enjoying a free pass with this sort of thing, especially back when Steve Jobs was at the helm and his user base largely trusted him to do the right thing. That’s how Apple could say, migrate platforms with minimal fuss even though it must surely have resulted in no small amount of inconvenience for them.
Even when Apple removed the headphone jack, while there was a lot of furore online, the iPhone still sold and users for most part accepted it as inevitable.
Apple doesn’t hold as much power in this relationship as they once did when they were a smaller company dealing with die-hard enthusiasts. I don’t think Apple has been takings consumers for granted, but they have clearly crossed a line with regards to user trust and Apple is going to have to find some way to earn it back the hard way.