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While android may have cool features, I do not feel it is safe and secure. Seems every month I read about hackers and viruses with android and advice that you need a virus scanner. I have sensitive information on my phone. Security is critical. Also, advertising. Can't stand it. Don't want it. Google can keep it. Apple may not be flashy, but, their polished and their graphics are the best. I've looked at the galaxy 3 and it just don't hold a key to apple. Is android bad? I don't think so. Everyone in this world doesn't need complexity. Everyone doesn't need advanced levels of customization. I find those items never get used after the new wears off. Apple is a niche market. Those that love them will still love them. They have a nice product, their stores always take care of my needs and are willing to help. They will survive.

Android is just like iOS. If you don't go on the web and download nasty, random crap, your won't get affected.

You wont viruses if you download Pandora or Instagram on your Android device. Anyone says that you can't is just lying.

Its easier to get viruses on Android only because its "open". But if you just use it normally or know what your downloading, your fine.

Also iOS apps leak more info than their Android counterparts
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...e-personal-data-than-do-android-apps---report
 
No thanks, the risk is not worth it. I like apples product. I like apples simplicity. Their product is well made and bery reliable. Their seems to be quite a few anti apple people on an apple board.
 
Did you really just write that ?
Specially the last part ? Give me what you are smoking, I want some :D

LG just regained the number 2 spot for mobile phone sales from Apple, largely because of the unexpectedly high Nexus 4 sales.

Apple's has staked its future on iOS and its stock is down a third, largely because of the unexpectedly weak (compared to projections) iPhone 5 sales.

Yep, I just wrote that. There was a time when BB and Nokia looked invincible, too.

Times change. Particularly when mighty companies do not.
 
LG just regained the number 2 spot for mobile phone sales from Apple, largely because of the unexpectedly high Nexus 4 sales.

Apple's has staked its future on iOS and its stock is down a third, largely because of the unexpectedly weak (compared to projections) iPhone 5 sales.

Yep, I just wrote that. There was a time when BB and Nokia looked invincible, too.

Times change. Particularly when mighty companies do not.

You do realize how much money Apple has in the bank that Nokia and RIM didn't, right ?

Just to give you an idea...

Apple has 100+Billion dollars in CASH, not stock, not realstate property. Cash.

Just to explain to you, RIM maximum market cap around 2008 was 70Billion dollars, that is total value of their share x number of shares.

Now they are worth 6,5B.

Also don't compare Apple with RIM or Nokia... as you know Apple makes more than tablets and phones... Go check how much money Apple makes from the rest :)

You will find out that Apple is not coming to an end as many would like (just because it's cool to say).
 
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iOS still has the better apps.

which ones? last time i checked most of apps available in appstore are also available on Google play store. This was true couple of years ago, nowadays theres really no difference

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You do realize how much money Apple has in the bank that Nokia and RIM didn't, right ?

Just to give you an idea...

Apple has 100+Billion dollars in CASH, not stock, not realstate property. Cash.

Just to explain to you, RIM maximum market cap around 2008 was 70Billion dollars, that is total value of their share x number of shares.

Now they are worth 6,5B.

Also don't compare Apple with RIM or Nokia... as you know Apple makes more than tablets and phones... Go check how much money Apple makes from the rest :)

You will find out that Apple is not coming to an end as many would like (just because it's cool to say).
Those 100 billion can go away as fast as they came. Couple of years of bad sales and suddenly there wont be any left
 
Better Apps? Which one?

Maps?
Stock?
Weather?
Notes?

I don't think so...

Yep. I have to agree.

Some here seem stuck in a time-warp, where Android is still a primitive, "me-too" mobile OS. But it's come a long way and the last two rounds it's been Apple who has been following suit: top-bar notifications, (limited) multitasking, free maps with turn-by-turn navigation, folders..., all "borrowed" from Android.

In fact, the ONLY app that I use and cannot get on both platforms is Noom's CardioTrainer, which is IMO the best exercise tracking app out there, but is currently available for Android only (they are supposedly working on an iOS version).

Don't get me wrong, I really believe that Apple is one of the few electronics giants which cares about design and I really want them to keep going strong. I just hate that they are slipping dangerously, even if the faithful don't see it.
 
Better Apps? Which one?

Maps?
Stock?
Weather?
Notes?

I don't think so...

Agreed. Any app worth downloading is already cross platform. Those apps that are "exclusive" to iOS usually have on par or better counterparts. Much everything else is offered as service or is just not worth downloading for the vast majority.
 
I have to say, I love my iPhone 5. I've had it from day 1. It continues to be super fast, super responsive, looks beautiful, works flawlessly. Anything they bring in the future to add onto this will be greatly appreciated. I love the camera and I can't be happier!
 
I agree. iPhone 5 rocks. Androids blow. Their colors are muted on every phone I see. Their icons are pitiful looking. I saw a galaxy the other day and I couldn't see the screen outside. I also have friends that constantly complain that their car don't work with their android. My apple does flawlessly. Who cares about all the customization. I want a product that works. Is easy and quick to use. Apples product works and works well. And Apples typically get apps first. And anyone that says that's not so, doesn't know. I don't know why everyone nails the apps listed above. They've always worked fine for me. And googles maps has issues too. Led me to the wrong place on a couple of occasions. Nothing is perfect in the world.
 
Agreed. Any app worth downloading is already cross platform. Those apps that are "exclusive" to iOS usually have on par or better counterparts. Much everything else is offered as service or is just not worth downloading for the vast majority.

That's true for the majority of cases. However, quality is another story.

A prime example: Flipboard. Nearly flawless on iOS. A buggy mess on Android.

Another example? Chrome, of all apps. Yes, Google's own Chrome. Yes, yes, I know on iOS it's just a UIWebView wrapper, blah blah. But what a UIWebView wrapper! The app as a whole is smoother and more of a pleasure to use than its Android counterpart. It even has touches that sets it on a higher level. Example: drag the recently viewed pages/bookmarks/Google account part and watch the bar move from over a icon to another on the bottom right of the screen. On Android, it doesn't move, it just changes -- and you can't scroll between screens, either. You have to tap the icon instead. Welcome to 2007!
 
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I agree. iPhone 5 rocks. Androids blow. Their colors are muted on every phone I see. Their icons are pitiful looking. I saw a galaxy the other day and I couldn't see the screen outside. I also have friends that constantly complain that their car don't work with their android. My apple does flawlessly. Who cares about all the customization. I want a product that works. Is easy and quick to use. Apples product works and works well. And Apples typically get apps first. And anyone that says that's not so, doesn't know. I don't know why everyone nails the apps listed above. They've always worked fine for me. And googles maps has issues too. Led me to the wrong place on a couple of occasions. Nothing is perfect in the world.

Your post is deemed invalid until you learn to write sentences that contain more than five words.

"My apple does flawlessly."

LOL
 
That's true for the majority of cases. However, quality is another story.

A prime example: Flipboard. Nearly flawless on iOS. A buggy mess on Android.

Another example? Chrome, of all apps. Yes, Google's own Chrome. Yes, yes, I know on iOS it's just a UIWebView wrapper, blah blah. But what a UIWebView wrapper! The app as a whole is smoother and more of a pleasure to use than its Android counterpart. It even has touches that sets it on a higher level. Example: drag the recently viewed pages/bookmarks/Google account part and watch the bar move from over a icon to another on the bottom right of the screen. On Android, it doesn't move, it just changes -- and you can't scroll between screens, either. You have to tap the icon instead. Welcome to 2007!

I would beg to differ. There are some niggles, but for me it depends on the phone and software version.

Some of the consistent apps I use are better on Android. For the longest time Evernote was just a better app to use on my HTC EVO 4G. It looked just like the iPad version. The iPhone version was dumbed down only until recently, only giving you a single column view that you had to scroll through to find your individual notes.

Google Drive and gmail allowed me to sync and view info for multiple accounts, something the iOS version got recently.

I have no idea what you're talking about in Chrome, but that may be something I am missing.

The only category I see iOS dominating in is multimedia apps such as iMovie and iPhoto. But that's slowly changing as well.

...My apple does flawlessly.

Nothing is perfect in the world.

MOOT!
 
... And Apples typically get apps first. And anyone that says that's not so, doesn't know....

Dude, I have had and have used both platforms since the early days of each (O.K., I got to Android two generations late). So yeah, I do know where they were and where they are now. And based on this knowledge, I am telling you that Android is ahead of iOS currently. And if Apple doesn't do something about it pronto, they'll be in trouble faster than many realize.

P.S. I wasn't going to bring it up, but since others did, I'll chime in: I sure hope English is not your native language. Otherwise Texas schools must really suck....
 
And if Apple doesn't do something about it pronto, they'll be in trouble faster than many realize.

P.S. I wasn't going to bring it up, but since others did, I'll chime in: I sure hope English is not your native language. Otherwise Texas schools must really suck....

Being such an expert of the English language, you are obviously aware that a sentence should not begin with proposition. :)
 
Edited to replace the screengrab showing a Shazam widget, replacing it with the stock Google Search widget. As I learned from Ralf Rottmann's blog post linked above, Google Search can now recognize music and in my brief tests, it did it perfectly (I do feel bad for the Shazam crew, through).

If Android styling is so much better and iOS looks and functions horrible in comparison, why do you have unmatching iOS icons and folders alongside the outline icons on the 'dock'?

Those screengrabs are exactly why people get carried away with customisation and why it is extremely overrated. Look through the Cydia store at people's custom themes. They are all absolutely shocking to look at.
 
"Apple better get it together, and fast."

oooooooh! Scary!! You want something else? Need a hall pass? Use this as permission to leave. You'll regret it, but everyone needs the freedom to screw up on their own.

I left and im loving life on Android with my Nexus 4 on the Franco kernel, i wouldn't go back to my iPhone if someone payed me.
 
iOS has stagnated completely, and is currently beginning to rot and stink up the place.

If iOS7 doesn't bring huge changes, then who knows what will happen... iOS5 and iOS6 are pretty much just .1 upgrades to iOS4.
 
iOS has stagnated completely, and is currently beginning to rot and stink up the place.

If iOS7 doesn't bring huge changes, then who knows what will happen... iOS5 and iOS6 are pretty much just .1 upgrades to iOS4.

How?

iOS is still better looking and more unified than Android, all it needs is a few tweaks and its good to go for another number of years.
 
How?

iOS is still better looking and more unified than Android, all it needs is a few tweaks and its good to go for another number of years.

Really? Have you seen or used Jelly Bean with Project Butter? Even jail broken IOS can't compare. Apple really needs to step it up with the next iPhone and IOS because the OS is really looking dated. In fact, it looks exactly the same as it did in 2007 on my first iPhone. Take a look at the HTC One and then compare its OS to the iPhone. It will make you cry.
 
Really? Have you seen or used Jelly Bean with Project Butter? Even jail broken IOS can't compare. Apple really needs to step it up with the next iPhone and IOS because the OS is really looking dated. In fact, it looks exactly the same as it did in 2007 on my first iPhone. Take a look at the HTC One and then compare its OS to the iPhone. It will make you cry.

Yes, really.

I have used Jelly Bean, and it still contains ridiculous concepts and design 'features' that leave you wondering 'wtf'. Even the way it works and the technical incompatibilities mean that Android still has a long long way to go to convince me to change across.

In what way does the OS look 'dated'? The lack of widgets?

What people fail to understand is an OS is a 'wrapper' if you like. Your work is done inside apps, your work isn't done inside the OS. The OS is there to run your apps - and the fact that people don't like to hear is that iOS is still better at running apps than Android is.

Exchange support is utter turd in Android - where an iPhone can connect with no problems, an Android device simply refuses.

Proxy support is crap in Android - where an iPhone can have individual proxy settings per wifi connection - this is something still lacking in Android. Sure, you can set proxy settings in individual browsers, but that doesn't help the rest of the OS.

CardDav / CalDav? Useless in Android unless you pay for apps which provide the features.

Unified inbox? Yep - but setting up a GMail account sets up your mailbox in the GMail app, not the Mail app - adding it into the mail app gives two notifications per email.

Even stupid things like on the Nexus 4 - the toggles on the notification bar - they're a different nonsensical order in landscape orientation than they are in portrait orientation, and there's no way to change it. Also, what's the point of your name and photo in the notification bar precisely?

Given an hour with the Nexus 4 running the very latest version of Android available for it, I still managed to make the browser crash twice, along with the Google Maps application, and I even got a very confusing error message telling me that a system service had crashed and if I wanted to report it. How exactly is this helpful for a non-technical user?

Slow performance in Chrome with web apps... tapping a photo asks me which app I want to open it in, then asks me again (every time) if I want to open it with this application in future. Its unnecessary steps I don't need when I want to have a look at a photo.

Don't get me started on scrolling, which insists on wanting to snap me to either horizontal or vertical scrolling, and have to have a violent finger movement in order to make it realise I do want to scroll this website a different direction.

As far as I could see, the Facebook app wanted access to every part of my phone in order to install (even down to call logs and text messages!!) Why? Why can't I select what I want the Facebook app to do, like I do with the Facebook app when it requests access on iOS?

The gimmicky face unlock was just crazy too - refuses to work in anything but daylight, and another ridiculous point which is a very minor one but an annoyance at that, why do I have to push the enter key when I've finished entering my 4 digit passcode? I've entered the passcode, just unlock!!

Having a separate alphabetical app drawer is crazy too - i don't want to have to open up another area to get to an app I don't use too often but need anyway.

The lack of iMessage is the big dealbreaker though. On Android, some people have WhatsApp, some have Kik, some have Skype, some have GTalk - everyone who has an iPhone (which to be fair is 70% of my contact list) have iMessage built in as standard and activated which means that I know when I contact them I can do it over Wifi, and not use standard text messages, without using an additional app, and being synced with my Mac.

Sorry - that was much longer than I intended it to be. I'm sure people are going to come on here, tell me I'm being ridiculous, break down every point and offer me a highly technical workaround or tell me I can fix this particular annoyance by downloading something from the Google Play store, but that's not the point. What I consider to be an average user does not want to do these things - they want to get a phone and use it.

At the end of the day - iOS simply needs a few new features added and to make better use of the lockscreen and it will remain - as it is today - the more user friendly, reliable OS that it has always been. The iOS bashing is not necessary.
 
iOS 6 is fine and Apple doesn't have to create something "amazing" for iOS 7.

For every jaded wannabe geek here prattling on about how iOS 7 needs to impress them there are 3 people on China Mobile that can't wait to buy the next iPhone.

It doesn't matter if you are upset or leave the platform. There are built in sales in the millions coming from pending launches on China Mobile and DoCoMo.

Far too many others are talking about OS architecture and clearly do not have a clue about where Apple is headed.

If you don't know the fundamentals of each OS then how can you articulate the real differences between the two.

Saying that Google Now is superior to Siri is foolish. What if you speak a language that Google Now doesn't support yet.

It's easy to get caught up in you own needs and fail to consider that there are another 7 billion people on the planet that have different needs.

Playing armchair analyst is fun but in now way does Apple have to kowtow to this puerile behavior. They have a business to run.
 
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