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Apple Blocks iTorrent App From EU Alternative App Marketplace

I haven't downloaded a torrent in 15 years, so I have no dog in the fight...but reading up on this, the developer has no idea why it was removed and Apple isn't sharing.

Apple should get two choices, leave the apps alone, or give detailed and EXACT reasons why something is removed or delayed. No playing coy, or keeping quiet; full details to the developer. No exceptions.
 
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Let’s hope Apple gives a reason why. With today’s “streaming” services, the people who actually pay for their movies, don’t own the movies itself, just to license to watch them, and the license can be revoked at any time.
Lots of people in her advising that companies are okay in doing to, y’all sit on the toilet to pee.
If paying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.
 
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GuyDouche said:
Let’s hope Apple gives a reason why. With today’s “streaming” services, the people who actually pay for their movies, don’t own the movies itself, just to license to watch them, and the license can be revoked at any time.
Lots of people in her advising that companies are okay in doing to, y’all sit on the toilet to pee.
If paying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.
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Four legs good, two legs bad doesn't apply here.

Because streaming services are bad (which they are, for the reasons you're given) that doesn't automatically make piracy good.

In the same way, saying piracy is theft (which is is), does not mean streaming services are "the good guys".

Life just isn't that obvious.
 
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AppliedMicro said:
Nonsense.

If I buy a music track online, I have a license to "use" it, i.e. play it back.
That license does not get "stolen" or taken away by sharing it on file-sharing services or torrents.
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You have a license, this people you are giving the music to do not.

You basically saying it's OK to pay for a ticket to see a movie in a cinema, and that one ticket purchase gives you the right to set up a camera with the ability to make a near perfect copy of the content and give that movie to anyone else for free.

It doesn't.

What about the songwriters' and performers' royalties / cut? You are stealing from them. IF enough people do this, there will be no more new music.
 
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Curious if part of the reason for Apple doing this is legal protection for themselves. They could be concerned that litigious victims of piracy via this type of app could sue them for not taking steps to prevent piracy.
 
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Torrent helps people to steal things.

Screw them.
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They're no different from web browsers. I know that Blizzard used to distribute their games via torrents (the official downloader was a torrent client that was hardcoded to only download Blizzard's games.) I'm sure lots of games are distributed this way (I wouldn't be surprised at all if Steam does this). Probably movies, too.

It's a very handy protocol for distributing a lot of data without spending a lot of money on network infrastructure - have your customers who have already downloaded the data share it with other customers who still need it.
 
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You don't need iTorrent, just get RealDebrid account, you can add WebDAV to Infuse app, or use Stremio web app. iTorrent is too much.
 
AppliedMicro said:
No money gets "stolen" from them either.

I'm not disputing that distribution of copyrighted media is (routinely) illegal.
That may be copyright infringement, illegal reproduction and distribution.
But it's not stealing.
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Money very much is stolen from them. Their product is consumed without them receiving payment and without them giving consent for that to happen.

I'm sure you like to be paid for doing your job, and you wouldn't be happy if you were told, "keep working, we like what you produce, we just won't pay you, because it's better for us to take what you've produced for free" That is what is happening in this case.

Torrenting is freeloading.
 
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AppliedMicro said:
No money gets "stolen" from them either.

I'm not disputing that distribution of copyrighted media is (routinely) illegal.
That may be copyright infringement, illegal reproduction and distribution.
But it's not stealing.
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Royalties owed to the creators being taken away, or denied to them because of illegal distribution, copying, etc. is definitely theft. Now I'm sure you'll come back with some lawyer sounding BS to say "no, it's not theft." But it is. It sounds to me like you're just trying to justify all the illegal music, movies, software, etc you may have on your computer(s). It is theft, plain and simple. Justify it to yourself however you have to to live with yourself.
 
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Happy_John said:
People love torrenting if they are consuming content.

If creating content is your job though, and the money you make from that job (and so that content) is how you pay your rent/mortgage and pay for things at the supermarket, then it's a different story.

Piracy is theft. It's up to people to decide if they are OK with stealing content or not, but it's disingenuous to claim that piracy isn't theft.
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Theft is taking something to which you don't have legal title and depriving the rightful owner of its use. Piracy is not theft, it's copying.
 
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