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Ironically, the new cable is one of the features I anticipate the most. Plugging in your iPhone to a car USB adapter while driving was so difficult to do. Now this problem is solved.

Absolutely - the problem is getting all the new cables is going to take longer than the phone.

Thus this year I wait for cables, before I buy the iPhone 5.... previous years I already had a drawer full of cables.
 
Hang on, one end is lightning and the other end is USB. How it that easier? of did you mean plugging your phone into the old 30 pin connector? Then yeah the lighting would be easier.

Either way, I would recommend not plugging in anything, easy or hard while driving. Do it at the lights :)

Yes, one bad habit I have is forgetting to plug my iPhone in (I listen to alot of music in my Honda) and start off driving. I then fumble around with the Phone and the 30 pin connector trying to get it plugged in. I often thought why do they use a cable which is so difficult to connect.

Some cars have bluetooth now which is somewhat better but interference can cause issues with the music playback (and drain the battery). :)
 
Yes, one bad habit I have is forgetting to plug my iPhone in (I listen to alot of music in my Honda) and start off driving. I then fumble around with the Phone and the 30 pin connector trying to get it plugged in. I often thought why do they use a cable which is so difficult to connect.

Some cars have bluetooth now which is somewhat better but interference can cause issues with the music playback (and drain the battery). :)

Well as a bonus, Apple is making your journey in the car ALOT safer now lol.

Yeah Bluetooth is a big no no for me when it comes to music playback.
 
Eventually this nonsense will end. Maybe 7 years from now.

Ohhhhhhh ....The New iPhone .


Ok , Maybe if you have a 3GS I could see the Upgrade.

If you have a 4 , I would wonder whats wrong with you.

If you have a 4S and you are Upgrading !!!.......I KNOW WHATS WRONG WITH YOU ...and its sad

I agree that upgrading from a 4S is completely unnecessary. But upgrading from a 3GS is definitely not a "maybe". The phone on the new software is EXTREMELY slow and laggy. Not a very enjoyable experience. I have an iPhone 4 and I will be upgrading and there is absolutely nothing wrong with me.

I have a 32GB model that is full, so I want a 64GB model. Not to mention that even my iPhone 4 is somewhat slow and unresponsive, especially when opening the camera application. Also, why would you NOT upgrade? I can sell my iPhone 4 32GB for the same price as it would cost to upgrade to a iPhone 5 32GB... So essentially, its free!
 
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Low IQ base here

:rolleyes:
Evidently this site draws as very low IQ base. Apple this, Samsung that.
I'm assuming all you morons have shares in either company :rolleyes:

Seriously, grow up people. Competition in whatever way is competition. While you idiots are trying to prove who has smaller balls, both companies bank accounts are ticking upwards. Even Samsungs billion dollar fine will be recouped in no time at all! :rolleyes:

Long live Apple and Samsung!

From a guy with the biggest balls of them all! :D
 
Yes, one bad habit I have is forgetting to plug my iPhone in (I listen to alot of music in my Honda) and start off driving. I then fumble around with the Phone and the 30 pin connector trying to get it plugged in. I often thought why do they use a cable which is so difficult to connect.

Some cars have bluetooth now which is somewhat better but interference can cause issues with the music playback (and drain the battery). :)

*nodding my head yes*
 
OK, how else do you explain that they sold out their entire supply in 1 hour?

There are only 3 options here:

1) They totally underestimated the demand and didn't build enough phones
2) Their supply chain had such severe issues that they couldn't build enough to meet demand
3) They intentionally created this "shortage" so that buyers would be "blown away" by the product

Remember the promise Apple made with the rMBP about how you could order it and it would ship TODAY? That lasted all of an hour, too.

See a pattern here?

The statement that Apple was "blown away" indicates that option 1) is reality. Sorry, but I don't believe Apple Marketing is that incompetent. I don't think they're holding supply back, but I could be convinced that they intentionally didn't build enough phones so that this type of supply frenzy would be created.

I vote for option 3).


Every iPhone / iPad release for years has taken apple many months for them to catch up demand. This is a fact. They simply sell the devices significantly faster than they can make them for pre orders and for three to six months post launch.
 
The poster refers to the fact that it's the same thing every year. "We didn't anticipate such demand!". Somehow, I could have told you this would be the case yesterday.

Maybe Foxconn just can't produce more than that after the whole phone is finalised... Which I assume would be a maximum of a month before the announcement... And expanding manufacturing won't make sense because then they will be runnin below capacity after the launch frenzy is over, so it won't be a smart investment... So rather sell out within 2 hours at launch day and keep a 2-3 week delivery time for the rest of the launch day orders and you have perfect balance for the rest of the year when the demand comes back to normal...

I don't think anyone in this forum has ever run a manufacturing facility... I do... So just my 2 cents...
 
I have a 32GB model that is full, so I want a 64GB model. Not to mention that even my iPhone 4 is somewhat slow and unresponsive, especially when opening the camera application. Also, it makes not sense NOT to upgrade. I can sell my iPhone 4 32GB for the same price as it would cost to upgrade to a iPhone 5 32GB... So essentially, its free!

All of this! Upgrading for the same reasons as you. The 4 has become very laggy over 2 years and my home button doesn't work as well.
 
Nah, it proves nothing. We'll have to wait till the release numbers. Only thing is, I don't think the ever release specifcs, just a general "We sold 1 million in 1 hour! Faster than the 4S!" or something along those lines.

I don't know if it will be the biggest/fastest selling launch ever, but I think it will be big either way. To be honest, why does it matter? Only for some Apple fanboy to brag about honestly. Heck, I may use it as a comeback for some Android fan that attempt to attack my choice. LOL

EDIT: BTW, what proves they weren't holding back? Common sense. Business. Sales.

Only an idiot buys into that crap.


Lol. Apple publishes numbers. Go find out how many phones Samsung sells in any period of time.

Also your last statement identifies you as business clueless. When you have a high priced item with overwhelming demand you don't intentionally hold back supply. That is business 102
 
Except when they announce that the initial sales of the iPhone 5 beat the sales of the iPhone 4S by a good margin. ;)

Don't be fooled, the numbers will show they sold more iPhone 5s and did it faster than with the iPhone 4S.

And guess what, next year we get to have this thread again, when Apple is "blown away" by demand for the iPhone 6 and couldn't have possibly predicted, yet again, a surge in sales.

iPhone 6? If Apple sticks with their current plan, we won't see an iPhone 6 until 2014, when they'll probably move away from the current design that began with the 4 two years ago. Unless they plan to offer a completely new design with the next iPhone, giving some people who are getting the iPhone 5 a reason to pay full price next year.
 
All of this! Upgrading for the same reasons as you. The 4 has become very laggy over 2 years and my home button doesn't work as well.

Pour few drops of 99% isopropyl alcohol on the home button, and press/wiggle it a bunch of times. It will dry really quick and make home button like new again. 99% alcohol isn't conductive, so it won't short anything out, and dries very fast. I did it to 2 iPhones, and it worked like magic.
 
This statement suggests that Apple was intergrating some new type of technology that had never been done before in a phone. Some new processor standard, or a new screen or something that's never been seen before. This was not the case in any of it's new features. Even the audio. Thus, Apple should have begun production months in advance to meet demand, if they had really wanted to meet demand.

They don't want to though. It makes sense. When you can't have something you want it more. Don't pretend that they sold as many as they could have.


They do start making them long in advance. The idea that they should sit on inventory for six more months to meet launch day demand is bankrupt business logic
 
What I'm trying to say is whatever Apple does the industry tends to follow Apple.

And whatever the industry does, Apple tends to follow. You're just looking at it from 1 perspective and that is your mistake in all of this. You're so blinded by the lighted object, you're failing to notice the shadow it casts.

They might be up there with Apple par for par but you got to remember Apple paid the way for the online music store industry.

I believe Franhoffer institute making a highly efficient compression scheme and rampant MP3 music piracy enabled Apple to negotiate their content deals with labels in order to get affordable pricing on digital music distribution.

Not to mention things like Napster showing that people actually wanted to download music, pointing at the big gap in lawful distribution methods.

Then portable MP3 player(ipod)

Creative and other players that started dabbling in PMPs would disagree Apple led here. Steve even acknowledges what is on the market in the introduction keynote in 2001 :


See around 1:24 of the video.

Apple waited and followed. And they didn't even have initial success. It took 3 generations of iPod before the thing took off. The first one had a big glaring flaw : Mac only in a world where Mac held 1% market share. The 2nd one had a less glaring yet also restricting flaw : Firewire only. The first iPod to ship with USB and Windows support is what made the line-up take off.

Then there's the fact that Apple "stole" Creative Labs' UI technology for the iPod :

http://www.macnews.com/content/apple-pays-creative-100-million-ipod-related-lawsuit

Then the portable tablet (iPad) and I can go on and on. It's this simple, before the iPad did Samsung, Asus have a tablet? No.

Actually, Samsung did. They even had a split keyboard before the iPhone ever existed, a feature new to iOS 5 I believe :

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When iPad came out it change the whole game for computer makers. Now everyone has a tablet. And you can say I like the Asus tablet over the iPad but you gotta remember if the iPad never came out Asus would of never came out with a tablet

Maybe not Asus, but HP, Samsung and other players that had been shipping tablets since the early turn of the century would have still been shipping them. For "post-PC" tablets, we would still have other players working on the concepts, like Nokia did back in 2005 with their launch of the Maemo Internet communicators.

Again, you seem to be simply ignorant of Apple's actual role and the whole of the industry. Why ? Why not see reality ?
 
Yeah no product has ever far exceeded sale demands expectations

Yes, the iPhone has, every year since its launch. Maybe you'd think they'd get a clue after the 6th model ? :rolleyes:

No really, you people thinking are too incompetent to make proper predictions are laughable. Spread your Apple hate elsewhere.
 
Maybe Foxconn just can't produce more than that after the whole phone is finalised... Which I assume would be a maximum of a month before the announcement... And expanding manufacturing won't make sense because then they will be runnin below capacity after the launch frenzy is over, so it won't be a smart investment... So rather sell out within 2 hours at launch day and keep a 2-3 week delivery time for the rest of the launch day orders and you have perfect balance for the rest of the year when the demand comes back to normal...

I don't think anyone in this forum has ever run a manufacturing facility... I do... So just my 2 cents...

I agree with all of this. I doubt that Apple is intentionally limiting stock.

1) Factories can only produce phones so far in advance.
2) Apple is not going to invest in a new factory just for the launch surge (like j4zb4 said); that doesn't make sense in any way.
3) Factories can only produce phones so fast.

How the hell does Apple make money by LIMITING what they sell? They don't make money off unsold phones. My theory: they make as many phones as they reasonably can (factoring all of the above) - knowing that they will most likely sell out - and benefit from the resulting press.

Does Apple know they will sell out? Probably. Are they INTENTIONALLY limiting stock? No. They don't make money by not selling products.
 
Lol. Apple publishes numbers. Go find out how many phones Samsung sells in any period of time.

Also your last statement identifies you as business clueless. When you have a high priced item with overwhelming demand you don't intentionally hold back supply. That is business 102

Go back and read. I'm the one saying they don't hold back stock.

And the numbers they publish at launch are always very generic. I'm not saying they dont publish numbers at all, just saying the numbers won't be very broken down and specific.
 
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What did you think they were going to say? They would say exactly the same whatever the sales were just to stoke up the hype and get people standing in those queues outside the Apple Stores next Friday so they get even more free publicity on all the news channels. It's just clever marketing. The really interesting thing will be actual sales numbers in 6, 9 or 12 months time. In other words can they maintain the sales momentum once the initial pent up demand is gone.
 
How the hell does Apple make money by LIMITING what they sell? They don't make money off unsold phones.

Geez guys, it's easy. I don't get what there is to not understand :

1. These launches result in a massive demand burst over the first few days. Demand then goes down to normal levels. This is predictable, Apple will sell phones very quickly in the first few days.

2. If you have a possibility of making 12 million phones for launch, anticpate a burst of 8 million to cover pre-orders and initial launch week sales and know you'll sell the other 4 millions over the course of the next 2 weeks easily then you can skip to 3 :

3. Limit initial offering to 6 million phones. Make sure to allocate a low number to initial pre-orders, around 1 million or so units so that the website quickly shows "Available in 1-2 weeks". This creates scarcity. Send the remaining 5 million to stores, making sure that your big markets get barely enough to cover demand. The "website said they ran out!" scare is in effect, the line-ups will form to get that coveted device first day since it's now impossible online.

4. Launch day, sell out of the remaining 5 million, making sure to leave a few sad faces for the cameras. Trickle extra inventory from your extra 6 million into stores each day, feeding the people who failed to get it on launch day.

5. After 2 weeks, you've sold the same 12 million phones to the same 12 million people had you offered the 12 million units up front. You've also probably managed to sell an extra 2-3 million off the media campaign covering the line-ups and general insanity.

You've lost nothing. You've gained free publicity. Heck, I'd do it if I had a business. No one is saying to sit on inventory long term, just not to dump it all into the market in one go.
 
I know how marketing works.

I have no chip on my shoulder.

I believe Apple is making a mistake by portraying themselves as being so amazed at the overwhelming demand for this phone. They knew what the demand would be. Every single industry analyst has been saying for months that this phone would be a huge seller. Where do you think they got that information from? From Apple, during their confidential briefings.

I'm reacting to this "blown away" nonsense. Apple is most assuredly NOT blown away by this. They knew all along it was coming. If there's one thing Apple is NOT, it's stupid.



So if apple thought it would take 12 hours to sell out and it took 1 they are not blown away? Lol. You are talking in silly circles.
 
Yes, the iPhone has, every year since its launch. Maybe you'd think they'd get a clue after the 6th model ? :rolleyes:

No really, you people thinking are too incompetent to make proper predictions are laughable. Spread your Apple hate elsewhere.

It's one thing to predict the number of sales at launch. It's an entirely other thing to think they should add factories or warehouse stock for months just to have enough stock to cover the entire demand. Bad business.
 
It's one thing to predict the number of sales at launch. It's an entirely other thing to think they should add factories or warehouse stock for months just to have enough stock to cover the entire demand. Bad business.

Then they weren't "blown away" either way now were they ? "Blown away" means they didn't anticipate this. That's just a plain ridiculous notion, everyone knew it would end up like this.

If you want to argue they don't held back stock that's fine. I still think they do, not for long, just a few days, spread it around, making sure to smile for the cameras and all. But to argue they didn't see this coming ? Please.
 
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