Apple 'Blown Away' by iPhone 5 Pre-Orders

[Geckotek]

If anything, they just don't care about increasing production rate because the short supply increases excitement.

lol, so the additional factories are fakes!

 

[aerok]

lol, so the additional factories are fakes!

The extra factories could be for the new line of ipods and maybe the rumored iPad Mini

 

[SqB]

Still, thoese who ordered after it sold out have to wait 2-3 weeks, meaning 14-21 days. Well after the store release date, so yes, Apple is holding back some stock. Nothing wrong with that, I'm just saying that your statement is not very true.

Those phones haven't even been made yet. They are not waiting for the device to be made to sell it. At this point, they are selling devices that won't even be made for at least another week or two. Carry and liability on warehoused stock at the quantity and cost point Apple deals with would be astronomical.

 

[Geckotek]

Only in the past couple of years would anyone automatically associate profit with greed. It's really disappointing.

Profit is:
-innovation
-more jobs
-incentive to invest
-return on investment
-ability to donate to worthy causes

And about 1,000 purely positive things.

Not if you give most of it to the CEO.

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The extra factories could be for the new line of ipods and maybe the rumored iPad Mini

Go read up. Apple has continuously increased production capacities of the iPhone.

 

[aerok]

Those phones haven't even been made yet. They are not waiting for the device to be made to sell it. At this point, they are selling devices that won't even be made for at least another week or two. Carry and liability on warehoused stock at the quantity and cost point Apple deals with would be astronomical.

The whole stock needed for the stores will not all be made on the 20th, instead of being shipped out to people that have ordered online, they will be sitting in a warehouse to be shipped in large quantities to stores for the 21st.

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Go read up. Apple has continuously increased production capacities of the iPhone.

I did read up, and that news is repeated everytime preceding a release of an iPhone or iPad. And it was never confirmed by Apple.

 

[Geckotek]

Well they are technically holding back stock at this moment for the store launch...

That was never in question.

 

[selva]

I ALMOST pre-ordered, but I just gotta see how the new Nokia 920 is first.

The 920 weighs in almost twice as much as iPhone 5. I want something to simply my life with iCloud, iTunes, apps galore and feather weight. Don't need another heavy phone to slow me down. Especially one with no apps which is important for my line of work (medicine).

 

[Geckotek]

I did read up, and that news is repeated everytime preceding a release of an iPhone or iPad. And it was never confirmed by Apple.

Factories are confirmation.

 

[aerok]

Factories are confirmation.

Apple came out and said we are using addtional factories to create more iPhones? Proof please.

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That was never in question.

It wasn't. My reply was following this statement

Holding back stock, for this and the other reasons mentioned, would be a huge mistake that would not make.

 

[Geckotek]

Apple came out and said we are using addtional factories to create more iPhones? Proof please.

Lol, ok....you win. They just made that all up. In fact, Pegatron is just a shell company made up by Apple. We've all been lied too!!!!



Edit: sorry, I'm too lazy to educate you.

 

[j4zb4]

Only in the past couple of years would anyone automatically associate profit with greed. It's really disappointing.

Profit is:
-innovation
-more jobs
-incentive to invest
-return on investment
-ability to donate to worthy causes

And about 1,000 purely positive things.

Let him be... Don't waste your breath... Wither he has an anti-apple agenda or is a total moron... I tried explaining it to him a couple of times... But, then since his argument failed he is troling on other people...

Yes, sure. Its all part of the game. And I think many companies take advantage of these. not sure about apple or Samsung. But again, there are other ways or making people excited...like saying...how many phones are 'supplied' instead of actually being 'sold'. And we know certain companies do that too..they are all here to make money and free or positive publicity. I actually heard from my Korean colleague ( and a proud Samsung fan) that Samsung employs people to put positive comments on blogs, forums and even product news about their products. Not sure iwhether its true or not but it sure is fascinating

What I had heard was Samsung still does that (I think that explains the SIII or SII or any other phone vs iPhone threads every other day on the iPhone section)...

Rumour also has it that the Android vs Apple fanboi arguments were instigated by them when Android was launched... Advertising gimmick... And I must say it worked... coz they trolled so hard that apple fans were forced to defend... lol... Smart campaigning... But it has turned the comments section of all Tech sites and all tech forums into a literal pain in the arse...!

 

[aerok]

Lol, ok....you win. They just made that all up. In fact, Pegatron is just a shell company made up by Apple. We've all been lied too!!!!



Edit: sorry, I'm too lazy to educate you.

... You're immaturity is my barrier to educate you. Good day.

 

[TMay]

You can't be in the field of sales or manufacturing.

There isn't enough space here to teach, but: (and this is what any company does)

Sales plans what they think they can sell. Since it's all guesswork, they use previous numbers, add new markets, consider a certain amount of saturation.

They also have to guess how many in white, black 16 GB 32 GB 64GB etc.

That info goes to manufacturing.

Manufacturing tells sales how long it will take to produce all of that.
(Factories and sub suppliers can only make X amount of pieces a day)

Manufacturing needs to be even keeled so employees don't sit on their hands when the big rush is over or they have to let go people.

At an introduction they then estimate a certain amount of pieces made for the spike.

Say the factories can make 1 million a day and a company thinks the initial sales are 5 million, the company takes a launch date multiplied by when production is ready and announces shipments will start the 15th (when the 5 million are ready)

Nobody in their right mind binds capital and fills up a warehouse to not ship , so consumers think there are shortages.

Especially Apple doesn't have to do that . Until they introduce a dud product, all their stuff sells immediately until they can make enough of it.

Then comes the day of truth and the company finds out what is really selling and they either planned wrong (and would sit on what they produced) or the
demand is so overwhelming that the factories can't keep up.

The "I must have it now or I am going to die" mentality of consumers who can't wait, does not play into any companies planning.

So, when Apple says they were blown away by the order numbers , it just means only one thing:

Whatever they planned to sell whether it was a conservative plan or an optimistic plan was sold out and exceeded their expectations/plan.

That is all there is to this conspiracy and mystical "They are holding back"
theory.

To pile 5 million phones into a warehouse to be able to make it look as if there is a shortage makes no sense whatsoever.

The money laid out to make these phones and the warehouse space would be wasted.

Apple is smarter than that!

I quite agree.

Apple will be shipping finished product just off the production lines to customers and retail suppliers by airfreight for quite some time, belying the conspiracy theories that our Canadian friend seems to be pushing. Whatever pre-launce stockpiling occurred, has been depleted. From here on out, its all JIT and immediate airfreight to FedEx or other distribution systems for customer/retailer delivery. This is no different than for previous launches.

But I do agree that Apple is disingenuous in its surprise.

 

[Chlloret]

When was the last time Sam(e)sung was blown away? Hmm??

Well, maybe not Samsung itself but others got blown away by Samsung products. The Samsung Thunder fe:
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/thunderselfpropelled/

You do not mess with that in a dark alley........

 

[Geckotek]

... You're immaturity is my barrier to educate you. Good day.

Lol, your only responses have been to refute facts that Apple has increased production. Something that is known. An entirely new vendor partnership that was highly publicized, factories toured.

I'll take my "immaturity" over your ignorance. Thanks.

 

[xumax]

Apple didn't just decide last week to make a new iPhone. The sixth generation iPhone has been in development for years. Steve Jobs was still alive when this phone was being worked on. He was also probably still alive when the seventh generation iPhone was being worked on, and maybe the 8th too.

They want you to believe this, yep.
Steve was known for change things in the last moment, again and all over again to make it perfect.
The magic is gone, even if they want you to believe there are ten more generations ready in the box.
Dreaming....

 

[aerok]

Lol, your only responses have been to refute facts that Apple has increased production. Something that is known. An entirely new vendor partnership that was highly publicized, factories toured.

I'll take my "immaturity" over your ignorance. Thanks.

You're arguying over unimportant silly details, I rather be ignorant on those subject because they do not concern me at all. Either way, believe what the Chinese tell you all you want, because all they do is tell us the truth.

I'm not saying anyone is lying, the point is that don't believe everything people tell you.

 

[Adam22]

Sprint iPhone

Sprint users are you here? did you guys pre-order the iphone 5?

 

[xumax]

So everything you say is "fact" huh? And anyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid eh? Anyone who thinks that their ***** doesn't stick is an arrogant prick who probably couldn't be reasoned with in the first place.

The only thing you said that was true is that Steve is gone. Aside from that, it was all just some opinionated blather. I see things far differently from you, and I'm far from stupid.

1) It has been reported that Steve was involved in the early phases of iPhone 5. So while he may be gone, he had input into THIS iteration of the product. Regardless, Steve wasn't the only one working at Apple. He hired a team of geniuses and visionaries that he molded in his own vision to work there. While his absence will surely mean things at Apple have changed, it doesn't mean the company took a 180 degree turn for the sh**ter either. Suggesting otherwise is pure ignorance.

2) The iPhone 4 and 4S style was hardly "perfect" -- its a nice design. A REALLY nice design. I love mine. I don't think its perfect, though, and would prefer something with a bigger screen (not just taller). That's just me though. Regardless, LOADS of people love the form factor. To make it thinner and lighter doesn't suddenly ruin it. Its a fantastic refinement, and frankly brings it closer to perfect than before. I happen to like the darkened bands on the black version. Kinda sexy. Far from "really ugly" and certainly no joke.

< / rant>

Its ugly ... Just ugly! If you look at the front and compare them .... The new one is a Joke.
I think it was a comprimise as far they could go and satisfy the demand for a larger screen.

 

[aerok]

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There you could use this too... Maybe you could join Aerok for the same English lessons...

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Oh because you never make mistakes...

Oh if you want to be picky about this:

There you could use this too; maybe you could join Aerok for the same English lessons...

 

[Geckotek]

You're arguying over unimportant silly details, I rather be ignorant on those subject because they do not concern me at all. Either way, believe what the Chinese tell you all you want, because all they do is tell us the truth.

I'm not saying anyone is lying, the point is that don't believe everything people tell you.

Hahaha, first of all, those unimportant silly details corrode your original position that Apple is not increasing production to meet demand. Secondly, the Chinese told me nothing. In fact, that statement makes no sense. Secondly your statement "believe what the Chinese tell you all you want" implies exactly that, that someone is lying. So stop contradicting yourself.

You obviously think its all some conspiracy and Apple is somehow pulling the wool over our eyes. I also suggest you stay far away from Apple stores and never look into the camera of an iPhone because that's how Apple steals your soul!


Edi: Don't worry, I never believe with anything people tell me without backing it up. Especially crap I read in forums, conspiracy theory, urban legends, and politicians.

 

[aerok]

You obviously think its all some conspiracy and Apple is somehow pulling the wool over our eyes. I also suggest you stay far away from Apple stores and never look into the camera of an iPhone because that's how Apple steals your soul!

Defensive much. When did I ever critisize Apple? I love my Apple products, thank you very much.

Edit: So you're just one of those that if someone does not only mention positive things about Apple, he must be a Samsung drone and spend his whole day shooting down Apple. I understand now, thank you.

 

[GuitarDTO]

There is a lot of internet muscle flexing going on in this thread. Is it really that hard to believe demand for this phone is high? Oiy Vey

 

[Geckotek]

you're*

There you could use this too... Maybe you could join Aerok for the same English lessons...

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You missed the joke.

 

[aerok]

There is a lot of internet muscle flexing going on in this thread. Is it really that hard to believe demand for this phone is high? Oiy Vey

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Not denying demand is high, they all seem to assume I hate Apple and bathe myself in Samsung products. I do have a Samsung mp3 player I bought 7 years ago...