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Apple Boosting Gold iPhone 5s Production Amid Strong Demand

Also only producing cases in leopard print

Proof, i think, that Apple is now a brand for tasteless "trendies" who are more concerned with the outside than the performance and value for money of the components inside.

i Guess Johnny Ive has the market he was aiming at now, Shallow vapid people who treat products carrying his design as fashion accessories and artwork to be carried about as a status symbol or left on display instead of a usable tool.

The new "sealed" iMac and macbooks, the lack of SD cards for the iPads and iPhones, the new useless Mac Pro, and now a Bling iPhone.

My suspicion is that at this rate the next iPad will be a sheet of laminated paper, the next iPhone a glass pebble and at this rate, the iMac, Macbook and MacPro will be discontinued as Johnny Ives Braclet (Or iWatch as its been know) is released.

My Opinion is someone needs to build hardware people want, then , get Johnny Ive to design a case for it, not have Ive design a case then shoehorn in hardware

I'm not convinced a gold iPhone means Apple is now a brand for the "tasteless trendies". The iPhone 5S (and the 5C) have been praised universally as exceedingly well designed and manufactured phones, with the 5S highlighted as a class leader.
 
Just tried to change the order with AT&T for my wife's phone from space gray to gold and they told me it'll cost $250 extra ($650 vs. $400). Wow. Way to gouge, AT&T.
 
There wasn't any immediate availability anywhere in the world online for any of the models — any color, any configuration. No one has reported ordering even a space gray and having it ship today.

I received confirmation my 32 GB Space Grey has already shipped and will arrive Monday.
 
Just tried to change the order with AT&T for my wife's phone from space gray to gold and they told me it'll cost $250 extra ($650 vs. $400). Wow. Way to gouge, AT&T.

Before jumping to conclusion, remember that the carriers must buy the phones from Apple who is the one that dictates the rules.

Although you'll make big points with your fellow AT&T haters, you're only misleading yourself.

Take personal responsibility before you order and you'll be much happier. After all it was your mistake. Finger pointing is not adult behavior.
 
No, they can't. Apple start production of any launched products 2 to 3 months before the product start shipping. Apple need to order the parts for the new product 6 to 8 months before product launch. And they need to take orders from all the telecom to figure out how many of what unit to build and arrange logistic how how to ship millions of products around the globe including reserve plane to fly the phones to different countries. There are at least 6-7 different version of 5s in China regions (Singapore, China, Hong Kong). And when you add into different version of 5s running in Europe and US, you can start to appreciate the complication of the manufacturing process. And all the logistic companies (e.g. fedex) and retailer has to gear up their promotion and staff vacation schedule to handle the massive workload. All these things need to coordinate in advance.

Yes, it is a complicated process. So at what point do you think they figured out that they wouldn't have anywhere near enough phones for launch? Certainly before they did the last steps you mentioned (shipping and retailers), and likely long before this. Which means they could have launched it later but chose not to.
 
Yes, it is a complicated process. So at what point do you think they figured out that they wouldn't have anywhere near enough phones for launch? Certainly before they did the last steps you mentioned (shipping and retailers), and likely long before this. Which means they could have launched it later but chose not to.

You are recommending a delay in their standard announcement timing? Different marketing problem, likely worse.
 
The writer is implying it came from an insider either at Apple or the factory but cannot reveal his source.
That is what the writer wants us to think. For all we know it could be some random analyst who thinks they know Apple.

If the person speaking does not work at Apple, then it's all rumours. That's the deal. Simple. But rumours are good cause a lot of them are quite plausible and good to know.
 
Tim Cook said they are working on more gold now

I jokingly told Tim Cook today that I thought it was easier to find real gold and he busted up laughing but then said they are working on that now!
He is a very cool guy!
 

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That is what the writer wants us to think. For all we know it could be some random analyst who thinks they know Apple.

If the person speaking does not work at Apple, then it's all rumours. That's the deal. Simple. But rumours are good cause a lot of them are quite plausible and good to know.

I doubt a WSJ editor would allow a story citing an unnamed analyst as someone in the know at Apple but nice try.
 
Yes, it is a complicated process. So at what point do you think they figured out that they wouldn't have anywhere near enough phones for launch? Certainly before they did the last steps you mentioned (shipping and retailers), and likely long before this. Which means they could have launched it later but chose not to.

I think in July, there is a rumor about the ring around the home button interfere with the finger sensor. Given that black seem to be in plenty supply and Gold and white are the only one that is out of stock and both of them has gold color ring. So I would guess that by July, they know that they have a problem. And if I were in their shoed, given the problem, I would not delay the launch. People who want gold or white can wait (I am on back order on a gold one). If you step back and ask yourself, why should you punish those who like space grey color wait?
 
Just tried to change the order with AT&T for my wife's phone from space gray to gold and they told me it'll cost $250 extra ($650 vs. $400). Wow. Way to gouge, AT&T.

Can this be true? I don't doubt the poster, but it just sounds so fantastical that ATT would do this.
 
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Bringing out this color was a brilliant sales idea on the part of Apple.

The only trouble is that, if you want to be unique, too many people are getting the gold. I can see the morning meetings now. It'll be like a dozen girls all wearing the same dress to a party.
 
I doubt a WSJ editor would allow a story citing an unnamed analyst as someone in the know at Apple but nice try.
The WSJ is 100% journalism. And the WSJ has used the "sources at Apple" line many times. That equates to the same thing. The WSJ can inly claim fact if they are taking a direct quote from Apple (in words or actions). If not it's all rumour.

In saying this rumour is good as a lot if it might be and possibly is truth. But not 100% confirmed till Apple speaks.

(Note well: "all but confirmed" as MR likes to say often is another way of saying "confirmed without word from Apple.". That's an impossibility as you can't have anything 100% confirmed without Apple's words or actions being quoted.)
 
I really wish Apple would grow up. They are pulling the same stunt over and over. "we had NO IDEA there would be so much demand?"
Seriously, they simply launch the phone a couple weeks before the supply chain is really ramped up. This allows them to issue press releases citing a demand which outstrips supply. Investors eat it up. Newscasters eat it up. Consumers stand in line.
This also likely benefits them in that they can goose their vendors to work a bit harder for a few months.
In most industries that I have worked in, we manage our supply chain and our SKUs so that we have adequate stock on hand for our partners in retail.
Considering that Apple is an Information Technology company which produces the hardware operating system and applcations on which they themselves run. There is no excuse for such inadequate planning.
A pathetic company like HP doesn't pull these supply goofs. But a thriving company like Apple just can't get it's act together?
Yeah right.
Deliberate
Marketing
Ploy.
I'm just mad because my battered iPhone 4 is on it's last legs and I NEED a phone by mid October. I will end up going to some awful Android or on older iphone if the 5S is still impossible to buy.
I'm not playing a stupid waiting game to suit Apples PR dept.
 
The WSJ is 100% journalism. And the WSJ has used the "sources at Apple" line many times. That equates to the same thing. The WSJ can inly claim fact if they are taking a direct quote from Apple (in words or actions). If not it's all rumour.

In saying this rumour is good as a lot if it might be and possibly is truth. But not 100% confirmed till Apple speaks.

(Note well: "all but confirmed" as MR likes to say often is another way of saying "confirmed without word from Apple.". That's an impossibility as you can't have anything 100% confirmed without Apple's words or actions being quoted.)

Yes, it's 100% journalism and most journalism is based on unnamed sources or each edition would be compendium of press releases. Think of the big stories like Watergate, Pentagon Papers, ect. The difference between journalism and rumor rags is that true journalists use credible sources and verify what those sources are saying as best possible. They don't just shoot from the hip.

The other thing you need to understand is that there is information that companies want to get out to the public but can't explicitly do so. That is why they either go "off the record" and give the reporter a legit bread crumb trail to follow or insist they are not explicitly named.

Once a reporter writes a story its up to his or her editor to fact check. Now I'll grant you fact checking isn't what it use to be but the WSJ is the biggest circulating paper in the U.S. They can't afford to be lazy when it comes to facts like allow a mere analyst to be credited as "a source close to Apple" operations because what happens then is other media outlets go snooping and expose WSJ. Then WSJ loses its cred. with its reader based b/c it can't believe what is reported.
 
The other thing you need to understand is that there is information that companies want to get out to the public but can't explicitly do so. That is why they either go "off the record" and give the reporter a legit bread crumb trail to follow or insist they are not explicitly named.
Agreed. But that is not on the record confirmed fact. And what is the difference between an off the record piece of information and a wild rumour? At times very hard to tell. And off the record obviously means the company is not ready to say this officially yet.

Hence I wait for the official statement.
 
iWatch Ready

Gold iPhone now is to go with the gold iWatch later... thinking the color choice is in line with a future strategy here. :rolleyes:
 
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