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"Briefly"? It should've been entirely. Apple should've entirely paused work on new features, for the duration of one entire iOS version, to clean up bugs.

But we'll never get that from Tim Cook because he is only concerned about making $$$. Cook will gladly sell software as buggy as he can get away with while still making massive profits.
 
Some bugs take minutes, some bugs take weeks, some need some major rewrite.
I blame agile/scrum for a lot of problems in the modern world. Before I retired I was placed into various scrum teams and I hated it. It is certainly effective for slapping stuff out the door, but is the enemy of doing truly great or inspirational work. My best ouput over many years happened after long periods of quiet reflection and very carefully thinking about the right way of designing systems. That all went to pot when the agile philosophy of just getting something banged out and worrying about fixing it later. That way lies plenty of dead end strategies and wholesale revisions sooner or later. Glad I’m out of it now. Meanwhile, teams of developers are using my old carefully planned code libraries on a daily basis, all done without a stand up or sprint in sight.
 
I get this feeling that every iOS version is a complete rewrite instead of carrying legacy code over. :rolleyes:
 
Additionally, the coming updates could be delayed until IOS 18 or later with only positive upside for me. None of them are essential. Maybe nice to have but not essential. What is essential, ”Just Works”. Apple pay attention.
 
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iOS has been awful for years when it comes to bugs.

Craig Federighi should have went years ago.

Software quality control has been garbage on his watch.
Craig seems like a bright guy and he’s Apple’s best executive active at working a room, but it’s indisputable that the software experience has indeed been garbage on his watch. Something has to give. I don’t know if it’s the yearly cycle or what, but it really does feel a bit like we haven’t had a decent iOS release in over 10 years which is profoundly ridiculous when you think about it.
 
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I made a thread related to this a while ago:

Unrealistic — but fun — idea...​

There're many comments, in various threads, wishing Apple would slow down, or even stop, adding software features, and focus on tightening-up their software.

Many often cite Snow Leopard as being the heyday for Apple's "it just works" age, and I'm sure there's a similar reference for iOS. As Apple continues to strive to add more and more bells and whistles to their software, more and more bugs and inconsistencies are bound to come up.

As far as I know, this is somewhat inevitable with such a fast development cycle. I've heard people blame Apple's focus on pleasing shareholders first, and consumers second — drive more sales of the newest hardware models through software updates that require new purchases. I'm sure it's more complicated than that, but you're here for a crazy and fun idea, not my ignorant speculation...

The idea...


Apple announces, in typical cryptic fashion, that the Apple polishing cloths will no longer be available until further notice.

Later, when it comes time for WWCD of that year, the theme is some clever variation on 'the year of polish' or 'our lineup has never been shinier' or something actually good.

The point:

Apple announces that the polishing cloths were no longer available to the public, as they were needed internally. They needed them so they could spend a full year focused on 'polishing' their existing offerings (not literally, of course - I'm talking software).

They announce the name of the new update to macOS as [clever name], and a video plays with a reel like: (with accompanying iOS and iPadOS versions)

New features: none!
Added functionality: none!
Pretty novelties: none!
...
Bugs fixed: 23,434,543
Consistency improved: 3,567,343 instances
Energy efficiency: up 363%
Crash decrease: 476%
User satisfaction: +254%
etc... (any metrics which can actually measure these improvements)
  • They talk about taking everything they already have, but has objectively needed more time to polish and refine, and then re-offering it in an update which re-commits to the principles of quality over quantity, reliability, and "it just works".
  • They talk about longer lasting hardware (due to more efficient and optimized software), in order to help with e-waste.
  • They talk about staying true to the principles which made them the most valuable company in the world.
  • They talk about defining their software in the same way they have done with their hardware: polished and refined to a level unmatched in the industry.
Then, at the end, they show a room full of Apple employees polishing MacBooks, iPhones, watches, and iPads. All getting shinier and shinier...

"The polishing cloths will be available again on [DATE]." <– the release date for the 'new' OS.

Shareholder relations...


There would need to be a separate, specific, presentation directed at shareholders, so they don't think Apple has gotten lazy and will lose sales.

This would be a long-term gain to offset the downturn in hardware sales, and to get fans to fall in love with their products again. If they pulled this off, then it would, hopefully, pull more and more people into the Apple ecosystem due to it's ease of use, consistency, and reliability — all things which used to be associated with Apple far more frequently.

Not gonna happen!


I know. I just thought it would be fun to write out and discuss.
Apple’s executive leadership is much too rotten for this type of wholistic product-oriented leadership at this point.

But let’s crap out another mediocre service offering no one asked for!
 
Thank God. They should do this sort of clean up at least once every year. Performance, stability and lack of bugs should be the foundation of every software release.
Right on. I don’t see how these things don’t aren’t prioritized considering how comparatively slow (historically, to Android) Apple has been to implement new features.

(Not to say they should throw in more features. I like a slow rollout if I can expect refinement.)
 
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iOS has been awful for years when it comes to bugs.

Craig Federighi should have went years ago.

Software quality control has been garbage on his watch.
Exactly. Apple should have kept Scott Forstall. But Tim Cook was, and still is, too mediocre to realize the extremely high value of someone like Forstall. Cook is an MBA, and MBAs are typically mediocre and far more concerned about making money above all else.

Had Apple kept Forstall, in addition to the increased comparative stability that iOS had under his watch, we would've still had the most beautiful skeuomorphic design in the entire tech industry on our iPhones, iPads, and Macs. But instead, we're stuck with this ugly Microsoft-pioneered flat design.
 
Glad to hear that fixing bugs are a priority. Not expecting any delays for iOS 18 due to this.
 
You’d think they are big enough to have two separate teams, one focused on fixing things and another one developing new things?
So the team fixing bugs will wait for the new stuff to be delivered so they can fix it?

I mean it wouldn’t make much sense, new dev and fixing goes hands by hands so it make sense to have one team only or you might end up with a mess.
 
Exactly. Apple should have kept Scott Forstall. But Tim Cook was, and still is, too mediocre to realize the extremely high value of someone like Forstall. Cook is an MBA, and MBAs are typically mediocre and far more concerned about making money above all else.

Had Apple kept Forstall, in addition to the increased comparative stability that iOS had under his watch, we would've still had the most beautiful skeuomorphic design in the entire tech industry on our iPhones, iPads, and Macs. But instead, we're stuck with this ugly Microsoft-pioneered flat design.
What is forstall doing nowadays that shows his quality?
 
I blame agile/scrum for a lot of problems in the modern world. Before I retired I was placed into various scrum teams and I hated it. It is certainly effective for slapping stuff out the door, but is the enemy of doing truly great or inspirational work. My best ouput over many years happened after long periods of quiet reflection and very carefully thinking about the right way of designing systems. That all went to pot when the agile philosophy of just getting something banged out and worrying about fixing it later. That way lies plenty of dead end strategies and wholesale revisions sooner or later. Glad I’m out of it now. Meanwhile, teams of developers are using my old carefully planned code libraries on a daily basis, all done without a stand up or sprint in sight.
Do *NOT* get me started with Scrum/ "agile"/ "Dev-ops". Great methodology for very limited circumstances. Do not use Scrum for something as complex as a modern operating system.

Is Apple using Scrum to develop MacOS? Please say no :O
 
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I blame agile/scrum for a lot of problems in the modern world. Before I retired I was placed into various scrum teams and I hated it. It is certainly effective for slapping stuff out the door, but is the enemy of doing truly great or inspirational work. My best ouput over many years happened after long periods of quiet reflection and very carefully thinking about the right way of designing systems. That all went to pot when the agile philosophy of just getting something banged out and worrying about fixing it later. That way lies plenty of dead end strategies and wholesale revisions sooner or later. Glad I’m out of it now. Meanwhile, teams of developers are using my old carefully planned code libraries on a daily basis, all done without a stand up or sprint in sight.
I’m glad someone else doesn’t agree with agile. It was cool for indie software back in the day that was shareware and stuff but now full on OS’s and mainstream software are riddled with bugs. They can only have their customers be their beta testers for so long.. not to mention that now cyber attacks are a huge threat compared to back in the day. It’s getting really risky. I prefer waterfall. I’m getting tired of screaming “it just doesn’t work!” about all my Apple products everyday. Apple seriously needs to just stop, slowdown and get everything running 100% again so we can actually say “it just works!”. I’m getting worried about cyber threats which are more important than a moving desktop wallpaper. Basic stuff should work, like the settings app. I’ve had 3 different Apple devices malfunction today, it really pisses me off!
 
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Come'on Apple, sort it out - You are losing sales and customers.

Customers are not Beta testers.

Once a customer goes to the other side, they are not coming back.




For me:

I'm glad Apple is doing something about their buggy Operating systems now at last in this modern era.

The latest hardware is awesome, the OS is inconsistent and flaky as hell.


The last few years I've been waiting for versions x.3.1 at least, meaning waiting into the following year each time. That strategy has worked for me, for anytime I went up an OS with Apple. Be it IOS, MAcOS etc.


Strategy not working now.

I wanted to buy the missus a Apple Watch 9 for Xmas. The battery drain bug etc. sounds awful.
Also will need to upgrade to the latest IOS to update the latest WatchOS etc.

I'm not doing that before Xmas! We want stable working devices for November, December, over the Xmas and new years period etc.


Apple Watch for a Xmas present, that runs out of battery by xmas lunch?!
 
With that millions that those guys get every year the work they do at quality control is so bad. Hardware is awesome but the software is pure pile of joy.

The "loud keyboard" is a bug since 8 years on iOS.

Tim Cook only wants money and has zero personality and I doubt he is really interested in the stuff that apple makes.

Stuff gets more and more expensive while people have less money.

Do you think I am buying an Apple 27" display for 2000$ to have the same display I already have in my iMac 27"? (yeah I know 500 nits now instead of 400)

I am currently working at two 32" inch Samsung 4K displays for 340$ each.

I always think, apple products are 20% better but 500% more expensive.
 
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