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8GB iPhone? These days that is about as useful as a three legged horse. Seriously, I don't get why people are dying to save $100-200 bucks on the initial "investment" even as they contract to spend $60+ a month x 24 on phone service. Maybe if it was an unlocked pay go phone it would make sense but as a contract phone it confounds me people would want it -- but they will.

Speak for yourself. I'm using 4GB of my 8GB 3GS after a year (75% songs, 10% photos, 15% apps). I know people who are barely using 2GB on their iPhones.
 
Oh I hate this dumbing down and cheapening of the iphone!...what next the $25 iphone for poor people in Africa to find out where the next grain drop will be or where's best to hide from murderous Hutu rebels?

I want exclusivity and the "wow I'm jealous factor".....not a "oh everyone has an iphone" thing.

~sigh, searches for Grain App~

Yea because saving millions of innocent lives is just not as important as you having a phone other do not. You are completely stupid? The very fact that you use the word murderous, proves several things of which I will not go into as your tiny little mind will explode. However, a fund for your "visit" to Africa will begin here at Mac Rumors and then we'll see if your attitude changes when you experience what these people have been running from. Young children do not have parents because they died or murdered. So tell me again how is your status of owning a phone better than saving lives?
 
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Pretty simple for me at this point:

If the IP5 is just a re-dress of the IP4 with the same build-quality problems (fragile glass materials, antenna issues), I'll be looking elsewhere for my phone.
 
Sarcasm and Irony tend to get lost with this crowd. I think he was joking....lighten up people

Stupider things are written in all seriousness all the time on these forums. If he wants it to be taken as a joke he can add one of those faces.
 
8GB iPhone? These days that is about as useful as a three legged horse. Seriously, I don't get why people are dying to save $100-200 bucks on the initial "investment" even as they contract to spend $60+ a month x 24 on phone service. Maybe if it was an unlocked pay go phone it would make sense but as a contract phone it confounds me people would want it -- but they will.

I want it, because I never buy locked phones with a contract.
 
Use iCloud. You don't need 64GB.

64GB SD is very expensive.

Don't tell people what they need, icloud= more money to spend on yet another service. and that doesn't even include the cost of data it will use to even listen to the music in the cloud.
 
Mr. Gates:

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OMG I love that picture. Is it odd that I have a craving for a new iPhone...and BRAINZZZZZ? :p
 
Don't tell people what they need, icloud= more money to spend on yet another service. and that doesn't even include the cost of data it will use to even listen to the music in the cloud.

Not to mention the control issues on your data. I don't want my data in someone else's hands.
 
8GB iPhone? These days that is about as useful as a three legged horse. Seriously, I don't get why people are dying to save $100-200 bucks on the initial "investment" even as they contract to spend $60+ a month x 24 on phone service. Maybe if it was an unlocked pay go phone it would make sense but as a contract phone it confounds me people would want it -- but they will.

This is for other markets than the US. They normally buy the phone outright and have much cheaper service rates. Current iPhone is rather price. this cheaper model allows Apple to compete globally. China is going to see huge growth for Apple.

I do agree with you, that it is silly for the US given our subsidized phone prices and high service plan rates and data caps.
 
Apple will never change the screen size. Increasing screen size reduces the pixel density which reduces the image quality. Though not noticeable, it makes no sense to downgrade the screen. If Apple really wanted to increase screen size, they would've done it in the iPhone 4 along with the bump in screen resolution which makes more sense.
Or they could increase the resolution, have you not considered that?
 
Question. Apple is pushing FaceTime on iPad and iPod touch models. There's an explanation for the mic, video camera, and speaker. Is there any other reason that should lead me to believe that the teardrop shape of the supposed iPhone 5s that have been circulating (the ones that look far more similar than the iPod touch models), are even iPhones at all? Seems to me that a lot of people really jumped to conclusions when discussing the 'leaked photos' of the 'iPhone'.
 
iPhone 4s or iPhone 5, I don't care; just bring it on.

I broke my 3GS a few weeks ago and have been living with an ooold school dumb phone. It looks almost exactly like the phone I had 6 years ago.

I thought I might like simplifying and saving money, but no, I want me some iPhone!
 
Speak for yourself. I'm using 4GB of my 8GB 3GS after a year (75% songs, 10% photos, 15% apps). I know people who are barely using 2GB on their iPhones.

Hey look, if you want to underutilize your phone no one is stopping you. I even said that there are people that will gladly save $100 on a $1400+ contract. My point is that I don't understand why. If all you want is to put music on your phone Walmart has inexpensive Android phones w/ $45/mo PayGo plan w/ unlimited text, talk and data on Verizon's network.
 
Hey look, if you want to underutilize your phone no one is stopping you. I even said that there are people that will gladly save $100 on a $1400+ contract. My point is that I don't understand why. If all you want is to put music on your phone Walmart has inexpensive Android phones w/ $45/mo PayGo plan w/ unlimited text, talk and data on Verizon's network.

So if you're not using or going to use 16GB of data on your phone, you should not buy an iPhone 8GB that Apple sells ?

Because you're not worthy or something ? You're not even making sense. 100$ is 100$, if I don't have to spend it, why should I ?

Personally, my 16 GB iPhone is not full, but is over the 8GB line, but I understand how some people don't even use 8 GB but might still want an iPhone. What is wrong with them saving 100$ ?

With a normal amount of video or hi-res photos that space is gone in no time.

Who are you to decide what is normal ? I don't have video or hi-res photos on my iPhone, am I weird because of it ? :rolleyes: These threads are always full of people trying to tell others what they should and shouldn't do, how bout this guys : Mind your damn business.
 
I think the smaller IPhone is a great idea. I don't use half of my 16gb currently, and a $99.00 Iphone would sell like crazy. That equals more profit for my company and higher stock prices. All in all, a good plan as always. Now, I just hope it comes true.
 
Not to mention the control issues on your data. I don't want my data in someone else's hands.

There probably won't be a problem with your data, but then again this cloud business is still pretty new/fresh and IMO it's a pretty new terrotory were there are lots of question marks.

For instance, what happens if one puts Pirated music into iCloud? Will apple notice the difference and warn authorites?

Is my documents and music "safe" in the cloud? and am i the only one with access to these files i.e. do apple have the authority to access these files.

So yea I don't really know about apple's policy on iCloud, all i know though is that, currently i have just 1 GB a month of data, and I would have to spend an x amount of money for some iCloud storage.


I have just 30 GB of music, however I must listen to music for about 5 hours a day, and I'm betting my left nut that it would cost me a small fortune to get enough data for my needs.

Basically it would probably be cheaper in the long run, to simply get a phone with more storage.
 
Or they could increase the resolution, have you not considered that?

Increasing the resolution causes problems to do with the way apps are displayed unless they are updated for the new res. It doesn't look as bad though if the new res is 2x the old one, which is exactly what Apple did for the iPhone 4.
 
They cannot seriously keep the iphone 5's design "largerly similar to the iphone 4's" if they are seriously considering offering this cheap 8gb iphone 4 alternative. it would undermine their premium marketing (and pricing) strategy for the iphone 5 if the there was a phone that looked almost the same. How could they justify the hundreds of dollars more? we all know iphone's are not bought for their internals, so spec upgrades won't be as much of a selling point as with android devices.

It could be that the iphone 5 will have a 4 inch screen with a resolution upgrade that maches the .5 inches more, thus keeping the same pixel density with the same general size and a metal back with a design language similar to the ipad 2's.

Why is everyone always on about how they could never change the resolution because apps had to be rewritten? on android platforms there are quite a few different resolutions and i havent noticed that most apps looked crap interpolated.
 
I'm not buying the larger screen. I can imagine the scaling might not be what Apple would want by even bumping it up an extra half-inch.

Apple claims that a retina display is defined by the inability of the retina to discern individual pixels at an average holding distance of 12 inches from your eyes, with a 300 dpi screen.

Current iPhone:

3.5" diagonal screen with a 3:2 aspect ratio (1.94" x 2.91")
2.31" x 4.5" overall phone dimensions
329.65 dpi

Assuming the same width and height of a new iPhone, same aspect ratio, and same horizontal and vertical number of dots; the new iPhone could accomodate, if they are indeed going closer to the edges of the phone itself with the screen, a 3.8" screen (2.11" x 3.16"), with a resolution of 303.63 dpi - above the magic number. No backtracking would be required, as Jobs has already defined what makes a retina display, and this falls under the criteria. Similarly, no scaling would be required. Of course, 3.7" allows for a mid-cycle update with a 'slightly larger screen, still with Retina Display goodness'.
 
Apple will never change the screen size. Increasing screen size reduces the pixel density which reduces the image quality.

Apple has always found usability more important than numbers. That is why they are sensible enough to understand that a bigger screen with slightly smaller dpi is better. Even required at this time. Therefore it wouldn't be a downgrade, but a significant upgrade.

The dpi is already way over what is required for a smooth experience.
 
I think everyone is missing a point here.

Cheap iPhone--yes. Why not a very cheap iPhone with low margins?

Why then would it have to be carrier subsidized and locked?

Cheap iPhone, carrier independent (i.e., buy it and choose your SIM)--game changer.

Add a 3G touch with VOiP.

The carrier dominant model of telecommunications is then over--and not a moment too soon. Talk about disruptive.

Sell your ATT and Verizon stock, boys and girls.
 
Developer?

Because iCloud doesn't enable you to stream music. Every time you want to listen to a song you don't have on your phone, you have to go to the music store, go to your purchased music list, find the song you want, click download, then switch back to the music app to play it.

Wow! You must be a developer to have such intimate detatled knowledge of how it's all going to work. Tell us more!
 
What if

There's an assumption that keeps being repeated in this forum - that the screen resolution of the iPhone cannot change. This, coupled with statements from Steve regarding the pixel density of a 'retina' display, has led many to assume that the iPhone screen size cannot really be increased.

First, I recall almost a decade ago Steve saying something about not entering the mobile phone market.

Second, why must the screen must stay at 960x640 @ 3.5 inches? Because of the retina display?

I predict Apple is going to shift the iPhone and iPod Touch screen resolution to 1024x768, and possibly increase the size to 3.7 - 4.0 inches. It does mean a change in screen aspect (1.5 vs 1.33), but I don't see that as a problem for anyone. I think it might even be beneficial to the end user.

It's a good solution for developers, since it begins to close the fragmented screen size that the iPad brought to the market.
 
I think everyone is missing a point here.

Cheap iPhone--yes. Why not a very cheap iPhone with low margins?

Why then would it have to be carrier subsidized and locked?

Cheap iPhone, carrier independent (i.e., buy it and choose your SIM)--game changer.

Add a 3G touch with VOiP.

The carrier dominant model of telecommunications is then over--and not a moment too soon. Talk about disruptive.

Sell your ATT and Verizon stock, boys and girls.

do you realize the 99$ is a subsidized price? LOL
 
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