If they are eating into Apple's sales, which they are, then obviously Apple's worried.
But its not that Apple didn't know about this.
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Apple Calls Samsung's Request to See iPhone 5 and iPad 3 an 'Attempt to Harass'
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If they are eating into Apple's sales, which they are, then obviously Apple's worried.
But its not that Apple didn't know about this.
Only problem is it's running Android. The hardware is useless when the software ecosystem is a mess.
Apple has nothing to worry about. They've got their market locked up. They've figured out the golden combination between hardware + software. It's all about synergy.
Android is not as bad as you make it seem.
Exosystems/Hardware/Software exist outside Apple.
Some are better; some are not. :|
If you read my post and that's what you assert, great.
I am happy that you understood it properly.
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Preposterous
So, Copycats demand disclosure on the roadmap from the Source they love to copy. This is as blatant as Samsung can be.
So, Copycats demand disclosure on the roadmap from the Source they love to copy. This is as blatant as Samsung can be.
If you read my post and that's what you assert, great.
I am happy that understood it properly.
Your assertion is incorrect, thankfully your reading comprehension is up to scratch.
I'm embarrassed for Samsung. They blatantly copied Apple. Where is their honor?
At least the other tablet makers have tried to put some originality into the interface.
I know that Samsung parts go into products from other companies. But I will not buy a Samsung brand item such as a TV for a long time.
At least the other tablet makers have tried to put some originality into the interface.
I know that Samsung parts go into products from other companies. But I will not buy a Samsung brand item such as a TV for a long time.
I believe this is why Apple wants to stop Samsung of all it's competitors. Seriously look at all the phones out there. They all look similar. Look at all the Tablets out there, they all look similar. GS2 looks absolutely nothing like an iPhone. I have both. So why only go after Samsung. I really don't get this lawsuit. I really see it as Apple truly being worried of the potential of Samsung to completely overtake the mobile world. And if you want to talk ecosystems, will no one has the potential of a truly whole ecosystem. Not just a computer, phone, tablet and apps. I'm talking the whole ecosystem, as in your whole darn home and home devices. Samsung makes everything. Anyone who doesn't think Apple considers Samsung a force to be reckoned with, is in denial. If the rumors turn out to be true that Samsung is looking to buy Nokia, this lawsuit and future lawsuits will have just got more interesting.
Whats wrong with Android exactly? Since switch from iOS to Android the only thing different I can tell is my ability to skin my phone and use it however I want. Other than that they are almost identical.
If I were Samsung, I'd stop making stuff Apple requests for their products. Where are they going to get there display panels from? LG (who made the one that leak light)?
The courts have already ordered Samsung to show Apple the goods. WTF is the holdup, Samsung? Have you complied or do you plan on doing so?
Any counter-requests and demands by Samsung at this point is just delays, posturing, and quite frankly, as Apple has stated "harassment."
Samsung has been exposed as an infringer by the courts. Their first priority should be to act accordingly.
Supply contracts have nothing to do with this. You'd be pretty dumb to lose a huge customer like Apple because you wanted to act out of spite. I'm quite sure Samsung's board would never allow that, or if they did they'd have gone collectively insane.
What, you don't want to make any money?
Any counter-requests and demands by Samsung at this point is just delays, posturing, and quite frankly, as Apple has stated "harassment."
Samsung has been exposed as an infringer by the courts. Their first priority should be to act accordingly.
Supply contracts have nothing to do with this. You'd be pretty dumb to lose a huge customer like Apple because you wanted to act out of spite. I'm quite sure Samsung's board would never allow that, or if they did they'd have gone collectively insane.
What, you don't want to make any money?
The bigger the company is, the more resources. Large companies often hire PR firms to go out and counter bad publicity on the internet. It is called damage control. Samsung is a big company. You'll probably see very enthusiastic supporters of Samsung show up on threads like this here and on similar sites.
Samsung's first tablet was a flop. The second won't do any better. They are better off making money helping Apple than copying them.
Samsung's first tablet was a flop. The second won't do any better. They are better off making money helping Apple than copying them.
Sharp are supposedly carrying out the duties for the follow up to the current iphone.
Wow - you really know nothing of how these kinds of lawsuits work. It's not harassment. Each side builds up their argument and counter arguments using whatever intel they have or can obtains.
It's SOP. It's not harassment. It's also completely legal and above board. Just like it's completely legal for the prosecution or defense to hand over discovery but bury important facts amongst paper trails a mile long so it become impossible to locate. Ethical - no - probably not. But legal.
Who knows, but they had 30 days from May 24th to do it, so they're still legally fine even if they haven't done it yet.
There is some potential ability for Samsung to legitimately to defend themselves under the consistency of trade dress, but it's all moot until those products are, at a minimum, announced.
Did you read the same legal documents and articles that I did? The court found Apple's claims that they needed to see the devices hands on to make a judgment on whether or not to file for a preliminary injunction had merit. The court has not found that Apple's trade dress has been violated in any way, shape, or form at this point. Any claim that they have been "exposed as an infringer" is not based in reality at this time, at least in a legal sense.
At most, the court acknowledged that "Apple has produced images of Samsung products and other evidence that provide a reasonable basis for Apple's belief that Samsung's new products are designed to mimic Apple's products.", but they declined to provide an opinion of their own. They're just saying Apple's claims are not completely and obviously ludicrous to an outside observer.
and apple needs to admit that they copied android, blackberry, and wifi sync.. then we could all be merry. i believe the way iOS5 will handle lockscreen messaging is how Samsung's Touchwiz already works.. so at the end of the day.. everyone copies each other
um.. it's already out. and if you actually try it out without your usual bias.. you'd find a real good tablet. here's a good read for you: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4445/samsung-galaxy-tab-101-review
Yes everyone copies each other but there's a difference here. The difference has been explained by some very learned people inside and outside this forum; so I won't be repeating any.
As for the Blackberry and wifi-sync thing, here's my argument:
1. BBM: What is Google Talk? AIM? ACQ? Windows Messenger?
They all are more or less the same. The only difference is that they are not platform dependent. If Windows Messenger becomes restricted to Windows devices, what does it? Is it a BBM clone?
Don't tell me that a simple chat client is BBM clone.
2. Wifi-sync?
I don't know how people would comprehend this, but it just makes you look like a troll.
These are generic things which are not something that one copies from another. This would be like saying.
In 2012 Android implements GPU accelerating in Android IceCream-Sandwitch. Such a copy of other operating systems.
Weird arguments.
Implemented features competitors offer is one thing. Samsung has done more than that. Compare Samsung's tablet to the Playbook for instance. The Playbook has some unique features in the OS that distinguish it. Admittedly all tablets will be similar, but each should try to offer something new.
Nice try rehashing the old talking points though. The key word there being "old". You lose.
As for Samsung's tablet, Android itself is a problem. Google can't seem to get rid of the malware. I've heard some call it the Windows of mobile OS. I'm sure it is a fine OS but I don't have time to deal with all that. I like to pass on the news though so that Android users get it quickly. Here are some recent Android malware news to be aware of:
Android Market's Malware Flood Level Rises With Plankton Surge
Android Malware Found in Angry Birds Add-On Apps
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Quite an ironic post, considering Apple has filed trademarks for "Retina" display.
"Galaxy S with retina" LOL