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Knowing how to focus on the right things is an even better part of being a leader. Something Cook is sorely missing.

He's not psychic or something. Sometimes we don't know if things are worth pursuing right away, only finding out later it's a waste of time to continue. It's like dating - not every partner is upfront about their crazy.
 
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yes.



Nope. Lidar is stupid. Lidar requires sensor fusion with vision. Sensor fusion increases latency and noise. Ambiguity increases and when that happens, which sensor do you trust? The answer is vision. Vision is contextually much more data rich than lidar. So it doesn't make sense to add lidar when you fall back to vision anyways.

Try FSD 12.5 and you can easily see vision only is superior
Not using radar and lidar along with cameras is idiotic, and NHTSA is eventually going to ban Turdla's motorcyclist murder bot mode from public roads until they put them in.

Visible light alone can NEVER achieve automated driving systems that are better than human drivers, and those systems absolutely have to be better than humans to be accepted, because humans are in fact terrible drivers.
 
Probably good idea as even Elon is stuck at "its 2 years away" stage (and has been for years)

"Elon Musk has claimed that Tesla will solve FSD 'this year', every year since 2014,” says Dan O'Dowd of The Dawn Project, a safety advocacy group. “Now, he has announced that FSD has been delayed another year until the end of 2025. This date will be delayed again next year, as it has for each of the past 10 years.”
 
I don't see this as a failure. Knowing when to hit the brakes is an important part of being a leader.

Hard to see it any other way than a failure. It was scrapped, rebooted, and reimagined. It burned through $10bil ultimately reverting back to being merely an EV with driving assistance no different than Tesla. It would cost in excess of $100k with thin margins in a market already dominated by Tesla. And to top it off it was to have no steering wheel and to be Siri controlled. Think about that: Siri controlled.
 
When smaller compagnies like huawei and xiami can make cars, but not apple.

Apple is way too slow to do things

It is because EV supply chain in China is very mature.

Huawei has not made single car at all, instead they partnered with other EV makers to put their software.

Xiaomi also relies heavily on EV supply chain, to them is find a good designers and rest of them are just building LEGO.

Likewise, EV supply chain is pretty much non-existing in USA or in Canada. Folks in NA still like to driving full ICE SUV or pick up trucks.
 
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Just over six months after Bloomberg's Mark Gurman reported that Apple abandoned its plans to release an electric vehicle, California's Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) canceled Apple's autonomous vehicle testing permit, according to macReports.

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The report states that the DMV received confirmation from Apple to cancel the permit on September 25, and the permit became canceled as of September 27. While this decision is not surprising given Gurman's reporting earlier this year, this is effectively the final nail in the coffin for Apple's decade-long electric vehicle project.

The permit allowed Apple to test a self-driving vehicle with a safety driver on any public road within California. Apple received the permit in 2017, and macReports said that it would have been active until April 30, 2025 had it not been canceled.

Apple was using leased Lexus SUVs equipped with an array of sensors and cameras to test various autonomous driving technologies on California streets.

Read our Apple Car roundup for more details about the canceled project.

Article Link: Apple Cancels Self-Driving Vehicle Testing Permit in California After Abandoning Car Project
What a mistake to make. Since Steve died.the company has gone down the drain. Not a singel product that is inovative. There are huge amounts of people not being followed up. With the **** they call improvements or something new… a small team could do. But no. Hige amounts of ppl or useless. Working for zero return for the future. Tzke a few years an Apple will be again like it was before Steve!
 
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Everything you say almost holds only under ideal conditions for the cameras. Under many real world driving scenarios, cameras-only comes up short.


No. FSD 12.5 is running in real driving scenarios today and it's working great.

That’s why additional data streams are necessary. Yes, fusion is more complex, but necessary given the implications of even partial failure in this case.

Again, additional data streams add ambiguity to the point where you need to fallback on a sensor. Which sensor are you supposed to trust when they disagree?

Waymo crashed into a stationary telephone pole because there was ambiguity in the sensors. Waymo has to filter out false positives from lidar data. They inadvertently filtered out data that would have told the computer that there is a telephone pole which resulted in the crash.

You are not going to get me to try “FSD” any time soon for one very simple reason.

Then you don't have much data to work on to back up your claim that vision only holds only under ideal conditions.

Meanwhile, I've taken both Waymo trips and have FSD. I have much more information to back up my claims.
 
LOL. FSD has been pending forever.
World changing technology should be on time and be done in a few years is a terrible take.

Meanwhile existing Tesla vehicles are long overdue for refreshes.

S/X already refreshed. 3 was refreshed this year. Y next year. Cybertruck was delivered not too long ago. Semi too.

Have no idea what you're talking about.
 
Not using radar and lidar along with cameras is idiotic,

Radar is noisy, causes phantom brakes in Ford/Tesla/GM vehicles. Waymo crashed into a stationary telephone pole, something Lidar should have prevented.

Sorry, but vision only is the way to go.

and NHTSA is eventually going to ban Turdla's motorcyclist murder bot mode from public roads until they put them in.

that's a random guess based on zero facts.


Visible light alone can NEVER achieve automated driving systems that are better than human drivers,

Wrong considering human drivers can only see in one direction while cameras can see in all directions and never get tired. We could possibly debate whether the computer is powerful enough or if the camera placements are correct, but vision only could absolutely outperform human drivers considering the limitations of the human body.
 
Knowing how to focus on the right things is an even better part of being a leader. Something Cook is sorely missing.

Yeah... Apple being one of the most successful tech companies in the world, with 1 Billion active/repeat customers, is testament to Cook not focusing on the right things, and is surely a result of lacking leadership skills.

I suspect you're not aware the US government this year raised the import tariff for EV cars manufactured in China from 25% to 100%. And if you were, would conclude that's not a biggie.
 
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Cook refusing to meet with Elon to acquire Tesla for pennies will go down as biggest Apple fumble.

Apple fumbled AI and EV, they are headed towards extinction, all they got on their hands are regressing products.

Short AAPL
But - from what I recall, one of Elon's terms was that he would become CEO of Apple after Apple acquired Tesla. If I'm remembering that correctly, then its no surprise that Cook walked away...
 
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You almost need a jerk leader to build revolutionary products - Elon alone has Tesla, spaceX and starlink. Then there’s Steve Jobs and Sam Altman for OpenAI as further examples. If you’re a “nice” leader that bows to public opinion you get today’s Google with Sundar Pichai, todays Apple with Tim Cook and the Chevy Blazer with Mary Barra. You must make your own decision if you want awesome products or pleasant CEOs
Elon doesn't build anything. He just buys things with money he doesn't have and sticks his name and ego on it. So really all you end up there with is a jerk with an ego.
 
FYI: Apple cancelled the car project after realizing what Tesla was working on with the robotaxi and the robovan.

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All other players in the market are headed towards extinction. Waymo too. Their only hope is to license FSD from Tesla.

Sorry, but it's just facts.
Exactly how are these facts? A fact is something objectively observable. How are events that may happen or may not happen a fact?
 
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You almost need a jerk leader to build revolutionary products - Elon alone has Tesla, spaceX and starlink. Then there’s Steve Jobs and Sam Altman for OpenAI as further examples. If you’re a “nice” leader that bows to public opinion you get today’s Google with Sundar Pichai, todays Apple with Tim Cook and the Chevy Blazer with Mary Barra. You must make your own decision if you want awesome products or pleasant CEOs
Business jerks should not be political.
 
Hard to see it any other way than a failure. It was scrapped, rebooted, and reimagined. It burned through $10bil ultimately reverting back to being merely an EV with driving assistance no different than Tesla. It would cost in excess of $100k with thin margins in a market already dominated by Tesla. And to top it off it was to have no steering wheel and to be Siri controlled. Think about that: Siri controlled.

I'll take a failure to launch over launching a failure of a product. Better to kill it before it can disappoint anyone.
 
Not using radar and lidar along with cameras is idiotic, and NHTSA is eventually going to ban Turdla's motorcyclist murder bot mode from public roads until they put them in.

Visible light alone can NEVER achieve automated driving systems that are better than human drivers, and those systems absolutely have to be better than humans to be accepted, because humans are in fact terrible drivers.
What humans are good at is thinking everyone else is a terrible driver. That allows us to anticipate what other human drivers will do, in illogical ways. Not sure if a machine can do that.
 
Lol, that has nothing to do with it. Apple simply gave up as they had nothing to show. If they had a great product they would go for it as great product always sells.

They could do it and were on their way. But the recently imposed 100% tariff on EV cars manufactured in China (up from the previous 25%) killed it.

Tough to make a decent business case with that hanging over you.
 
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Lol, that has nothing to do with it. Apple simply gave up as they had nothing to show. If they had a great product they would go for it as great product always sells.

The mandated 100% tariff had everything to do with it. Apparently you believe that's not a big deal from a business perspective.
 
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