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Apple Car Production Slated for 2024 With 'Next Level' Battery Technology

As a Model 3 owner I'm super excited about Apple developing their own car. If you've never driven a Tesla, before you comment, take a 10 minute test drive and you'll instantly understand the hype. From a driving perspective it's truly next generation and makes every other ICE car feel stupid in comparison.

Tesla's software is also leaps and bounds ahead of everything else right now. Developing the car is the easy part, the software is super challenging and I think Apple is the only company right now who is capable of creating software that can come close to challenging Tesla. Mass-producing batteries is also hard but it seems like Apple might have that already figured out.
 
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It's pretty funny to watch all the Teslalemmings, who've defended Musk/Tesla by comparing it to Jobs/Apple, now try to 💩 on Apple's rep for daring to enter the EV car/battery space. My bet is on the company that has a 40+ year proven track record of delivering cutting-edge products that are also popular with the buying public. Not the one that can't attach tires correctly to cars built in a COVID-19 superspreading tent.
 
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jz0309 said:
so you forgot the name of this site? MacRUMORS
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just because its a rumor doesnt mean i cant think the rumor is b.s.

i can definitely see them getting more involved in car OS kinda stuff, but not whole cars

this is what im thinking is going on: (he even uses apple as an example, saying stuff wont be ready for mac world so 'people who write about apple' will want the story regardless even if its fake)

 
It’s insane how badly batteries have lagged behind other technologies since the nineties. Lithium-ion batteries have been the plateau for a quarter-century now. In some ways this has forced other technologies, such as microprocessors, to become insanely efficient, but still.
 
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I dont know, maybe its just some of the items I received lately and use, but Apple's batteries are not what they used to be. AirPods Pro drain really quick, iPhone rapid battery drain, iPad Pro is pretty consistent
 
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diamond.g said:
How is Apple going to deal with franchised dealership laws?
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im curious how this would affect monopoly issues

part of the reason politicians want to break up "big tech" is because they're outside their market and would want things spun off

why get into cars in the middle of anger at big tech companies reaching too far?
 
Edsel said:
I've always wanted to be chauffeured. Self driving cars look promising. I fear, however, that technology is still many years away. Which may mean, I'll only be chauffeured in a hearse.
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Ignoring the FSD rewrite being released soon, Autopilot in its current state makes driving immensely more relaxing. And safer since you and the car together are watching the road. It's really, really great.
 
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My guess is they release this as a self-driving Uber/Lyft type service and the car is not actually owned. LFP batteries are much less energy dense. This might be ok for a car where zippy performance doesn't matter.

Not able to commit to 100k cars per year by 2024/2025 might be a problem if they plan on selling them, but makes more sense as a service. For comparison, by that time Tesla will be making 5m cars per year or almost 100k cars per WEEK.
 
These articles are from the same sources that brought us those Bloomberg articles last year.

"The Chinese inserted chips into your computers and are spying on you!"

Which, of course, is why Solar Winds got compromised...because spy chips!
 
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D.T. said:
Yeah, I'm a bit of a car enthusiast, and I follow a decent amount of the industry, and you're right on. The development cycle, that involves on-road analysis, crash testing, building out a service network (assuming they'd need to do this with mobile service), major considerations over building and distributing a 4000 lb vehicle vs. a smartphone, there's just a ton of logistics to putting a car on the road. Look at some of the up-and-coming new companies like Lucid, Rivian, you can see the visibility of the process. Even Tesla who moves reasonably quick has continuously pushed back the Roadster, the S Plaid, the Cybertruck, and a number of major, established manufacturers are years away from a (B)EV and they've got vehicle production expertise already in place.

Even if Apple had a ton of development already done, they'd still be a good 2.5-3 years out from getting anything on the road.
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So if they really are targeting 2024, that's a good solid 4 years, and we should start seeing test mules, etc., around the west coast offices, and some kind of major construction announcements, in the next year.

Interestingly, I just read today that Tesla has started "low key" partnerships to allow non-Tesla manufacturers to use/develop/grow Supercharger stations.
 
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Even if all that is true, there is no way Apple can enter the market with a great product. They have zero experience with this and Tesla has been perfecting it for over 10 years. This is not like a building a phone.
So no, even if I would love to see Apple's take on a car design (which most cars are ugly af), then there is no way I would buy one. Maybe 5-10 years down the line when they get experienced enough and work out the bugs then I could maybe be persuaded but by then Tesla will be miles ahead.

Right now, the only sensible EV choice is Tesla. No one is even close to them.
And when Tesla's new battery tech is out that will be the same like iPhone vs Android.

But, curious to see the design. Copycats will start xeroxing and all consumers will get nicer looking cars. Its a disaster right now.
 
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