I have. I've owned four of them over the years. And unfortunately, I don't live in a warm climate.
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Apple Ceases Selling Nest Products Online and In Stores
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I have. I've owned four of them over the years. And unfortunately, I don't live in a warm climate.
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I'll be using Google services.
Judging by Apple's services these days, NO THANK YOU. They can't even do a product launch without botching up the whole thing. (Maps, Music, iOS 8, iCloud Photo Library, etc.)
Judging by Apple's services these days, NO THANK YOU. They can't even do a product launch without botching up the whole thing. (Maps, Music, iOS 8, iCloud Photo Library, etc.)
More broadly available or inter-operable, yet less secure, is not more functional for home automation.
Lol, yeah, I can't argue with you there. But no way do I want Google involved, either. I'll just continue to get up off my dead butt and adjust things manually.
When I looked at all of this earlier this year, nest did not talk to anything. If it did, then the sales pitch was sure lacking.
The problem is that Nest wants to sit by itself as a device. And I couldn't really understand what the smoke detectors are all about either, again, they didn't seem to talk to anything either.
Here's why things need to talk to each other; if my window sensors detect something open when the ac cooling kicks in, I want to be told. I want to know if I'm trying to aicondition north west Florida. It's no good Nest not talking to a central hub.
If there is a fire in the house, I want the dog flap opened, so my dogs can get out of the house. I'm not interested in the smoke detectors calling me up "hey house is on fire", no, I want my dogs safe. I want different systems to add value to each other. And I certainly don't want Google knowing my house had a fire either for that matter.
There are huge advantages with an intelligent smoke detector. Just not with a closed or proprietary system like Nest, when there are protocols out there that other companies already use.
For instance, as I've said in an earlier post, maybe not on this thread, smoke detector goes off, and the system automatically opens the dog or cat flaps. Believe me, losing a house is nothing compared to thinking of the house burning down with your pets in it. I would happily lose the house if I know my dog is safe.
With door locks already available in Lowes and HomeDepot, a fire in the house can automatically unlock doors, or remotely you can unlock doors for the fire service, whilst you watch the house being gutted from the chakras you installed. I know with the Lowes hub for instance, $10 or something a month, and the thing has cellular access, so it can always reach you (until it burns of course).
Smart home automation is so much more than you guys think. And it's not happening in the future, these products are already out and are already linking to each other.
I'm sure you are able to provide a source for your amusing "facts" that you posted in the previous post?
(Hint: a simple link to a credible source should do [while a sad, little "it only can be true because I find Apple stupid!!1!!!1" is not a valid source for providing so called "facts"]).
Yes, that he likes to keep him house at 68* in July. Very scary stuff.
Perhaps. Google has never done me any harm. All they want to do is show me an ad. But I have adblockers so...If they wan to know what temp I keep my house in the middle of July, so be it.
That is exactly the way it is supposed to work, but check it. The Nest (with all updates prior last Monday) does NOT do that. The compressor outside, and the fan outside, and the fan inside, continue to run until something in the Nest decides the magic moment has arrived. In my case it was several minutes.
This stings.
I went all in with Nest (thermostats and Protect) before it was purchased by Google. Future compatability with iOS seemed guaranteed. Then Google took over Nest and it was conspicuously absent from the HomeKit announcement. Oh oh.
...then Nest took over DropCam of which I have 3. Then I realized that my Wink devices all run Android.
Without knowing it, my entire home is full of Android products. FML.
I went all in with Nest (thermostats and Protect) before it was purchased by Google. Future compatability with iOS seemed guaranteed. Then Google took over Nest and it was conspicuously absent from the HomeKit announcement. Oh oh.
...then Nest took over DropCam of which I have 3. Then I realized that my Wink devices all run Android.
Without knowing it, my entire home is full of Android products. FML.
I guess you are not aware that the Nest also monitors when you are home and when not. Is that really information that you would like to share with anyone?My sister has a Nest. I just built a new house and installed an Ecobee3 (with homekit, which sold me on the ecobee3) and absolutely love it. It's a great device - the iOS app could use a little bit of work (minor tweaks to improve, for some reason I randomly have to login, can't setup a default thermostat so you need to select your only one every time).
Probably should have asked the builder specifically to make sure I had a 5 wire thermostat cable from my furnance but I only had 4 (no C wire). This is not an issue for the ecobee3 because it comes with a power injector to use your existing cable.
Probably should have asked the builder specifically to make sure I had a 5 wire thermostat cable from my furnance but I only had 4 (no C wire). This is not an issue for the ecobee3 because it comes with a power injector to use your existing cable.
I don't know for sure, but this *may* be because it's attempting to intelligently control humidity too? If your house is at the desired temperature but humidity inside is too high, it may feel stuffy and warmer than it really is. I know my EcoBee thermostat takes all of this into account and will sometimes kick on or run the A/C when the current temperature would lead you to believe it's unnecessary. But it's just trying to get humidity down into a better range.
And now you know what Apple is so slow to the game lately. Plus the fact that I won't touch Apple services with a 10 foot pole these days, I'm not sure how much longer I can stay in the Apple ecosystem. Google and Microsoft are providing the services and software I want these days. I'm sure Apple will continue to make pretty hardware as that's all they've got going for them, but judging from the design of the iPhone 6, it looks like that's going out the window too.
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So hold on, if Apple sold a product that ISN'T home kit compatible; people would whine and moan that "why would Apple sell a product not compatible with their framework"
It's akin to Apple selling Microsoft Office for Windows.... pointless in the context of their products they are selling in the store.
That had long become impossible, when Schmidt made use of his Apple board membership to steal the iOS/iPhone concept in its early design stage, fostered Android the company and later bought it.
I actually purchased a Nest through apple.com last year and it made sense that they sold them as an iPhone accessory. However, continuing to sell Nest when it doesn't support HomeKit and Apple beginning to heavily push home automation products would confuse customers. Carrying a non-Apple product in their retail or online store is some combination of championing products that are Apple friendly and curating products that provide an Apple caliber experience. Removing a product that no longer adequately represents those goals or just because they need to pare down the number of items they sell is hardly mean-spirited. Apple has never pretended to be an Amazon type retailer.
I almost purchased a bunch of nest hardware, but was a little slow. I am glad I was as I don't want anything like this controlled by Google. The products are nice but, with Google lurking in the background, they are dead to me.
