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Apple CEO Candidate John Ternus is 'Well-Liked' and Helped Reverse 'Declining Product Quality'

65 is only a "common retirement age" because it's the age you can receive many types of retirement benefits without penalty, and become eligible for Medicare in the United States. In other words, for many Americans, it's the first age at which they can afford to retire.

For someone like Cook, he could've retired at 50 if he wanted to. But 65 is just another year and doesn't have any more or less weight on a decision to retire like it would for working class folks. Nothing, financially, has 'changed' for him with that birthday.

I mean I know a lot of 'semi-retired' people personally who had fully vested pensions or who had reached retirement savings goals in their 50's, but work part-time somewhere just for health insurance.
 
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At last here the trade-ins during Cook has been going down.
So wonder how much the trade-in will give for Cook?

Can't be much 🫤
 
I know Tim’s not the most popular guy around here but he’s not a complete ass imo (this new guy looks somewhat familiar and seems alright)…

but The price gouging has to stop tho…things like Apple care plus not covering lost for ALL covered products…endless subscriptions ad naseum (not being able to create your exact own Apple “extras” bundles @the very least), new phones and watches etc EVERY year (won’t somebody please think of the environment), upgraded mainline accessories (airpods max for ex.) being only minimally upgraded all these yrs later (worst offense Same weight same wonky charging case and no off button), it just feels like a soulless money grab at times to appease Master. I don’t mind premium price because the hardware is supremely elegant and durable…. But ya gotta draw the line somewhere….

Hope this new guy personally makes user privacy (no more deals with goog annd end all current deals) and elegant durability the two most important things on his hitlist as CEO…all else will follow.
 
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robgreene said:
This may be true... but not because Tim Cook has done a bad job. On the contrary, he's been a fantastic steward of his role at the helm of Apple. His business mind and approach has been a fabulous fit for the post-Jobs era. Now that Apple has scaled to the size and scope that it has under his tremendous leadership, a case can certainly be made that a different type of leader may be best suited for Chapter 3 when that time comes.
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Cook did a good job until Liquid Glass.

Cook lacks the design sensibilities of Jobs. Most people in business lack this sensibility. Jobs was something of an outlier in this regard.

It should be mandatory for any Apple CEO to take two semesters of art and graphic design college classes during their tenure.
 
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SkyRom said:
"Senior Vice President - Hardware Engineering"
No Desktop Mac updates in 382+ days...
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The Mac desktop products (iMac, Mac Studio, Mac Pro, and Mac mini) have minuscule revenue impact for Apple compared with all other products (hardware, software, and services).

These numbers are much harder to pin down than I'd like--many companies, including Apple, are fully transparent for various reasons . . . so I could be a little off, but even if I only factor in total hardware alone (so iPhones, iPads, Watches, Laptops, monitors, everything hardware that Apple ships to customers--but no software, services, or any hardware that it uses in its data centers or campuses), revenue for all desktop hardware desktop products in FY25 is only 1.67% of revenue. How much revision and focus are you doing to put into such if you were CEO or heir apparent? As a stand-alone business, it is substantial at $4.72 billion, but the rest of customer-shipped product hardware is roughly $292 billion. And this is revenue--how much net profit is made for each product line isn't normally disclosed.

Also, in theory, the introduction of the Mac Neo may change some of this. Probably. Unless they introduce a lower-tier Mac mini. Because I definitely know some people who got the Mac mini because it was the cheapest way to get a Mac. The Mac mini is more powerful than a Neo, but if you need something quite basic but supported and have the footprint space, it probably makes more sense to get the Neo. No need to add in a keyboard, mouse, webcam, and perhaps even external monitor. Things like basic small office computers, media streamers, etc, should be good fits. On the other end of the spectrum, the Mac Pro has not gotten love in a long time, and with TB5 and PCI Gen 5 here, I'd expect that entire product to just vanish.

None of this means I would not immediately purchase a M5 Ultra (or beyond) Mac Studio. I would. But my needs/desires are not typical, and I accept the reality of where the focus for Apple should be.
 
My vote would be on Craig Federighi 🤘
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capamac said:
Cook did a good job until Liquid Glass.

Cook lacks the design sensibilities of Jobs. Most people in business lack this sensibility. Jobs was something of an outlier in this regard.

It should be mandatory for any Apple CEO to take two semesters of art and graphic design college classes during their tenure.
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Love Liquid Glass. I have no complaints with the new UI. Seems it's not hurting iPhone sales either.
 
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I was hoping I'd be able to read this article on Apple News+ but it looks like I still have to subscribe to Bloomberg. Is that correct or am I missing something?
 
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Love Liquid Glass. I have no complaints with the new UI. Seems it's not hurting iPhone sales either.
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That's akin to arguing "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" was an acceptable movie (19% on Rotten Tomatoes) because it made a lot of money in ticket sales. A very "suit" mentality, the sort of mindset that ultimately made Apple what it was in the Spindler era.

No one will remember "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" in 100 years. But there will still be people watching "Casablanca."
 
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capamac said:
Cook did a good job until Liquid Glass.

Cook lacks the design sensibilities of Jobs. Most people in business lack this sensibility. Jobs was something of an outlier in this regard.

It should be mandatory for any Apple CEO to take two semesters of art and graphic design college classes during their tenure.
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I think he really, really, dropped the ball by releasing the AVP, but personally I lost interest in him when he quipped back to the question about RCS with "buy your Mom an iPhone". Can't stand the guy now.

Liquid Glass sucks something fierce, but it's not (currently) bad enough to leave iPhone over.
 
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capamac said:
That's akin to arguing "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" was an acceptable movie (19% on Rotten Tomatoes) because it made a lot of money in ticket sales. A very "suit" mentality, the sort of mindset that ultimately made Apple what it was in the Spindler era.

No one will remember "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" in 100 years. But there will still be people watching "Casablanca."
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I'm a filmmaker, so thanks for talking my language! Casablanca is an all-time favorite but I don't see it as a good comparison to previous operating systems vs. Transformers and Liquid Glass, as you posit. In fact, it's a pretty flawed metaphor. And the Transformers example is kind of random isn't it? What you could do is tell us which OS you prefer, which aesthetic, and how does it compare to Casablanca?

My point is that many, many people don't have any issues with LG at all and it doesn't seem to keep them from buying and enjoying their devices. The MacBook Neo seems to be selling well, too 🙂. So it's not a suit mentality-- it's a product and software quality mentality. And LG just doesn't seem to be for you.

Now, to get you thinking, here are some Hollywood films considered among the finest ever made that initially were financial and/or critical failures upon release: Citizen Kane, Vertigo, It's a Wonderful Life, Blade Runner, Shawshank Redemption.

Whether you consider LG a commercial or just a critical failure is a question you'll have to answer, and that will be your own opinion.
 
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robgreene said:
This may be true... but not because Tim Cook has done a bad job. On the contrary, he's been a fantastic steward of his role at the helm of Apple. His business mind and approach has been a fabulous fit for the post-Jobs era. Now that Apple has scaled to the size and scope that it has under his tremendous leadership, a case can certainly be made that a different type of leader may be best suited for Chapter 3 when that time comes.
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Beautifully composed comment, right here. Well said, @robgreene !
 
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