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Apple CEO Candidate John Ternus is 'Well-Liked' and Helped Reverse 'Declining Product Quality'
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johannnn
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Hardware is 10/10, but iOS 26 and macOS 26 are a piece of crap
- ugly
- buggy
- slow
Interesting that there actually is a realization of declining quality inside Apple when a large and vocal part of the user base is fanatically happy.
as if you know what’s best for the company. Apple is stronger than ever as a company. No one in the real world cares what some nerds post in forums just because they don’t like this or that software/hardware decision
The issue is that a product like the iPhone only comes around but once every 30 years, sometimes even longer.
There was turntables and televisions available for home use in the late 40s and 50s, then personal computers in the late 70s early 80s, then smart phones and tablets in the late 2000s and early 2010s.
That type of landscape altering product only comes around so frequently, and the iPhone hasn’t even been around 20 years yet.
There’s also the fact that even during the end of Steve’s time at Apple disappointment was setting in, recall in his biography he said that he never saw as much criticism as he did the day after he announced the iPad. Sometimes people will never be happy.
Parowdy
macrumors 68000
lol way to undermine his role during the Trmp administrations.
The opposite would have Apple shut down.
Macbook Pro screens still come with dents and scratches.
iPhone 17 Pros still make weird static noises when charging with USB and discolouring housing.
Siri still is a mess.
Airpods Pro 3 have ANC issues generating white noise.
iPad Pro screens also come with scratches.
So where the quality improvement?
iPhone 17 Pros still make weird static noises when charging with USB and discolouring housing.
Siri still is a mess.
Airpods Pro 3 have ANC issues generating white noise.
iPad Pro screens also come with scratches.
So where the quality improvement?
There’s only one setting for scroll direction, shared by mouse and trackpad. This has been an issue for decades.
Just one example of the baffling number of little programs every Mac user has to install so they don’t go insane because Apple refuse to make MacOS work properly.
Or how about having to click twice to type in a box if the window didn’t have focus?
uczcret
macrumors 6502
I don't just wonder, I'm pretty certain Apple would be bankrupt for over a decade now if that was the case lol.
uacd
macrumors 68000
I think Tim has squeezed all the possible juices from once-great company and now it will only go downhill, no matter if he stays CEO or not.
I hadn’t seen such a bugged software from them ever before. It seems like the moment when they need to build systems from complete scratch has finally come again: new kernel, new UI, new commands. This won’t happen soon but it should have already happened before with iOS26, they just missed deadline long ago.
What’s next? A folding phone for 3-4% of their customer base just because Samsung does it for years and their ads look shiny? Nonsense!
A phone must be compact, fully-protected and fast slate. Instead we have large bricks. I miss the days of iPhone 5, because why would I need a gigantic phone when I have large iMac screen, a TV, a MacBook and an iPad? I am already surrounded by screens and iPhone is just a small screen that I would carry with me everywhere.
Next frontier should have been AI but Apple seems to had failed that front. Gemini is great and what I’ve tested - much better language-wise from ChatGPT, much less generic and more precise, that’s without even mentioning their video and image generation capabilities which are realistic enough to use instead of stock images anywhere.
And even with ChatGPT Apple didn’t deliver because it works like an app, not instead of SIRI. But ChatGPT has best voice recognition capabilities out there. SIRI had not been ever able to understand a word I am saying, no matter which language I spoke to it, ChatGPT would instantly transcribe everything, and that’s the key to proper AI experience: you don’t even need to.
Also security went downhill. How come Apple allowed JavaScript that much? New virus can crack any iPhone thru Safari in background on all devices that have iOS17-18. All thanks to JIT and local storage. Why would I need that stuff on my phone and why Apple allows websites to download tremendous amounts of data on storage, not in RAM? What’s those 12GB RAM for??
Thus I cannot even see innovation. New iPhones are just slightly faster than older ones, but those are still dumb bricks, just more inconvenient. Camera shoots AI slop, Photos app is abomination and the most unintuitive app to view photographs, 120Hz mode is pretty much useless, I mean what’s the point of it
I hadn’t seen such a bugged software from them ever before. It seems like the moment when they need to build systems from complete scratch has finally come again: new kernel, new UI, new commands. This won’t happen soon but it should have already happened before with iOS26, they just missed deadline long ago.
What’s next? A folding phone for 3-4% of their customer base just because Samsung does it for years and their ads look shiny? Nonsense!
A phone must be compact, fully-protected and fast slate. Instead we have large bricks. I miss the days of iPhone 5, because why would I need a gigantic phone when I have large iMac screen, a TV, a MacBook and an iPad? I am already surrounded by screens and iPhone is just a small screen that I would carry with me everywhere.
Next frontier should have been AI but Apple seems to had failed that front. Gemini is great and what I’ve tested - much better language-wise from ChatGPT, much less generic and more precise, that’s without even mentioning their video and image generation capabilities which are realistic enough to use instead of stock images anywhere.
And even with ChatGPT Apple didn’t deliver because it works like an app, not instead of SIRI. But ChatGPT has best voice recognition capabilities out there. SIRI had not been ever able to understand a word I am saying, no matter which language I spoke to it, ChatGPT would instantly transcribe everything, and that’s the key to proper AI experience: you don’t even need to.
Also security went downhill. How come Apple allowed JavaScript that much? New virus can crack any iPhone thru Safari in background on all devices that have iOS17-18. All thanks to JIT and local storage. Why would I need that stuff on my phone and why Apple allows websites to download tremendous amounts of data on storage, not in RAM? What’s those 12GB RAM for??
Thus I cannot even see innovation. New iPhones are just slightly faster than older ones, but those are still dumb bricks, just more inconvenient. Camera shoots AI slop, Photos app is abomination and the most unintuitive app to view photographs, 120Hz mode is pretty much useless, I mean what’s the point of it
LFO8
macrumors 6502
uacd
macrumors 68000
This is awesome website. When I first opened it I didn’t know how relatable it would be.
Autocorrect bug is still a thing😂🤦♂️ For more than 17 years!! And ever since then it is still disabled on my phone, because it doesn’t work. Same for AirDrop which would often “stall” or fail and I would need to reboot devices.
People should speak more on these forums about these bugs, because it is not serious that Apple simply ignores the existence of these.
At this point they can make disabled autocorrect a default setting😂
It would be interesting to hear from all those of you with great knowledge of business 101 how keeping strange bugs and cumbersome workflows around is great business.
One usual defense is that "people just complains since Apple can't build a perfect product for everyone', which is not what actually happens here. But OK, do please tell us who the system is designed for, with features like Apple music app launching everytime you remove your headphones.
It seemed to be a bug, but as the workflow has persisted over many many major versions, it must be a thought thorugh decision. For whom is it a great feature? Plese tell me!
One usual defense is that "people just complains since Apple can't build a perfect product for everyone', which is not what actually happens here. But OK, do please tell us who the system is designed for, with features like Apple music app launching everytime you remove your headphones.
It seemed to be a bug, but as the workflow has persisted over many many major versions, it must be a thought thorugh decision. For whom is it a great feature? Plese tell me!
the fact Xcode is still not available in iPad Pro that has a M5 chip is insane.
Well talking about
"reversing a trend of declining product quality"
my iMac M1 screen got the dreaded lines/banding fault yesterday, and the top right hand corner was so hot you could have boiled a kettle on it! I found out that there are hundreds, probably thousands of people who have reported this, a clear design/manufacturing fault, but Apple have not declared it to be a free-repair defect. So I'll have to decide whether to get a repair or buy a new computer.
"reversing a trend of declining product quality"
my iMac M1 screen got the dreaded lines/banding fault yesterday, and the top right hand corner was so hot you could have boiled a kettle on it! I found out that there are hundreds, probably thousands of people who have reported this, a clear design/manufacturing fault, but Apple have not declared it to be a free-repair defect. So I'll have to decide whether to get a repair or buy a new computer.
jackietreeh0rn
macrumors regular
Sorry but at no point in time did Apple update their desktops every year. Not during the G4-G5 days, not during the Mac Pro days, sometimes the updates came after 2 years.
wanha
macrumors 68030
there's a lot of truth to what you write and it's certainly beyond arguing that Cook has been instrumental in creating the hyper efficient and profitable business machine that Apple has become with efficient logistics and outstanding HW.
imo where Cook has fallen short the most is in prioritizing profit over product, which has cost the company untold amounts of goodwill with customers and especially developers that may at some point turn into an achilles heel for the company.
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wanha
macrumors 68030
that... seems like a hot take?
I'd be curious to know what evidence you have of "it all being about him" for Cook?
My android phone (Oneplus) is running android 16. My wife's iphone (17) is running IOS 26. My wife's hardware is better than mine. But IOS 26 is so far behind android 16 it isn't funny. People in this forum don't realize how far android has come or better yet how far IOS has fallen...
Mr_Ed
macrumors 68000
Loved it! Apple really needs to sweat the details of the things users will come in contact with most often and it looks like they don’t care. This is a big part of my disappointment with them in recent years.
Abazigal
Contributor
I generally take what Mark Gurman reports with a huge pinch of salt. It’s not that hard to find a small handful of employees who are disgruntled with Apple, maybe take their words out of context and attempt to paint the company in a far worse light than it actually is.
Sometimes, if people are unhappy, the problem is them, not the organisation. Till now, I am sure there’s some people who are upset that Scott Forstall was made to leave, though I view that as one of Tim Cook’s most prescient decisions at Apple ever.
It’s worth revisiting this video.
I believe there’s a succession plan well in place, any transition will be orderly and methodical and I feel that the drama many people here seem to be anticipating simply won’t materialise. Everything happens for a purpose, and even if / when Tim Cook stays on in some capacity, there will be a good reason for that too.
