Apple CEO Candidate John Ternus is 'Well-Liked' and Helped Reverse 'Declining Product Quality'

[citysnaps]

I'm not here to rant, but Apple does have a captured audience/market. Hence the lock-in, blue bubbles, proprietary ecosystem, etc.

So called lock-in is a personal choice. Apparently some people feel OK being locked in rather than exploring other options and taking action.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

So called lock-in is a personal choice. Apparently some people feel OK being locked in rather than exploring other options and taking action.

Hence, the best of bad options that I said earlier. I don't like Apple, I just like it better than the other options. I have explored the other options in depth.

 

[capamac]

So look at the guy who's taken Apple to a nearly $4 trillion dollar evaluation and do the opposite?

🤦‍♂️

Sorry; not impressed by mere financials. It’s a crude and crass metric.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

Sorry; not impressed by mere financials. It’s a crude and crass metric.

I agree 100%; company valuation is a poor metric for anything outside of investment. It's the equivalent of dudes with rulers....

 

[That70sGAdawg]

Anyone would be better than "Auburn Tim"..

 

[Lioness~]

Sorry; not impressed by mere financials. It’s a crude and crass metric.

I agree 100%; company valuation is a poor metric for anything outside of investment. It's the equivalent of dudes with rulers....

Exactly, the financials don’t make people happy, at all.
For happiness and meaning in life it takes the right values and ethics for that - for both people and for companies.

I’ve known people who even committed suicide when they realised that they really had nothing except money. So wealth is far away from an equivalent for happiness and wellbeing.

 

[Parowdy]

It’s pretty easy to figure out why.

Personal hatred? Why? How?

 

[Attila the Fun]

I wish Johnny Apple all the best.

 

[Naraxus]

Exactly, the financials don’t make people happy, at all.
For happiness and meaning in life it takes the right values and ethics for that - for both people and for companies.

I’ve known people who even committed suicide when they realised that they really had nothing except money. So wealth is far away from an equivalent for happiness and wellbeing.

I never claimed it was. I pointed out the idiocy of saying "Look at what he did and do a complete 180" when that individual brought the company to stratospheric heights in just about every metric that matters.

But since you want to bring up "happiness and wellbeing" as a metric of success, what do you say to the over 1 billion repeat & happy customers that that same individual has given them over his time as Apple CEO?

 

[wanha]

You may not be aware that profit follows the actions of Apple's 1+ Billion happy/active/repeat customers purchasing Apple products they love to own.

you may not be aware of the lack of alternatives and the lock-in costs of Apple's platforms as reasons people keep buying.

I myself keep buying Apple products, but every year, I am looking around more and more for alternatives. Eventually, they will emerge.

Lost good will is a liability that doesn't show up on the balance sheet until it's too late.

 

[citysnaps]

you may not be aware of the lack of alternatives and the lock-in costs of Apple's platforms as reasons people keep buying.

I myself keep buying Apple products, but every year, I am looking around more and more for alternatives. Eventually, they will emerge.

Lost good will is a liability that doesn't show up on the balance sheet until it's too late.

Being locked in is a personal choice. The good news is everyone has agency over their tech purchase decisions.


"Lost good will is a liability that doesn't show up on the balance sheet until it's too late."

Not to worry about Apple. Their customer base is expanding every day.

 

[mxrider88]

Tell us the real state of it. What are some concrete reproducible examples?

Multiuser support on macOS is rubbish, when you switch accounts continuity and handoff break.
Photos app sluggish and slow to export also on M4.
Share button not working, you share a photo via iMessage and the iMessage app doesn’t open, you have to manually go and open the app to find the attachment ready to be sent.
FaceTime icons for failed calls are still overlapping with the rest of the UI even on 26.4 iOS.
Live translation ultra buggy.
Mail doesn’t load attachments.
Maps is unusable to plan a multi stop trip.
Mail tells you there is an attachment but it is often invisible in the macOS UI, works from iPhone.
iCloud sync was not working properly causing data loss, up to a year ago.
Switching user account with an external monitor connected results in the Mac switching account and the display swill showing a frozen image of whatever was on screen in the previous account.
AirPlay to HomePods is buggy AF.
Personal hotspot not working properly.
AirPods not switching automatically.
Adding a new song to a play next in the playlist makes the playing music stutter and sometimes it doesn’t even play it but skips it.
Unlock with Apple Watch turns itself off periodically.
Siri is pathetic, I ask to turn on the coffee machine and it asks me “for how long” in a loop until I tell Siri to shut up, I try again and it works.
I ask Siri to add something to my shopping list and 50% of the times it tells me to turn on personal requests in the home app, which are on and have been on for a decade.


Do I need to continue?

 

[wanha]

Being locked in is a personal choice. The good news is everyone has agency over their tech purchase decisions.


"Lost good will is a liability that doesn't show up on the balance sheet until it's too late."

Not to worry about Apple. Their customer base is expanding every day.

"being locked in is a personal choice"

lolwut?

I'd love to hear your definition of lock in.

lock in isn’t just technical, it’s also psychological and economic inertia

 

[Tim Jobs the 2nd]

I'm not here to rant, but Apple does have a captured audience/market. Hence the lock-in with blue bubbles, proprietary ecosystems, FindMy, AirPlay (Android can't use the HomePods, for example, or HomeKit) etc.

I'm free to leave Apple any time I want, I just don't want to.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

I'm free to leave Apple any time I want, I just don't want to.

As am I.

I don't care for Apple, as a company, but it's best of the current options.

 

[citysnaps]

"being locked in is a personal choice"

lolwut?

I'd love to hear your definition of lock in.

lock in isn’t just technical, it’s also psychological and economic inertia

It's not a phrase I use.

Rather, it's what many people here without agency in their lives believe is keeping/mandating them using Apple products even through they don't like Apple, its products, or Cook.

In other words, they're stuck and believe they're locked into using Apple products, apparently for the rest of their lives.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

It's not a phrase I use.

Rather, it's what many people here without agency in their lives believe is keeping/mandating them using Apple products even through they don't like Apple, its products, or Cook.

In other words, they're stuck and believe they're locked into using Apple products, apparently for the rest of their lives.

You can hand-wave away peer pressure, economic reasons, complications, lack of know-how, tie-in with other devices, etc., but it doesn't change the fact that they exist, and absolutely affect what a person does.

Pretending they don't because "you have agency" is just dismissive and dishonest.

 

[citysnaps]

You can hand-wave away peer pressure, economic reasons, complications, lack of know-how, etc., but it doesn't change the fact that they exist, and absolutely affect what a person does.

Pretending they don't because "you have agency" is just dismissive.

Handwaving, seriously? Not at all, especially peer pressure. Everyone is capable of making choices and going with other tech product options that would better suit their needs. It might take a little work and some motivation to switch to another provider of what they believe are superior tech products. But the option is always there.

 

[capamac]

It's not a phrase I use.

Rather, it's what many people here without agency in their lives believe is keeping/mandating them using Apple products even through they don't like Apple, its products, or Cook.

In other words, they're stuck and believe they're locked into using Apple products, apparently for the rest of their lives.

I'm planning on making x86-64 my next computer, running BSD/Linux. I've bought three Macbooks since 2011 but unlikely to hit four. Apple's gotten ugly.

 

[citysnaps]

I'm planning on making x86-64 my next computer, running BSD/Linux. I've bought three Macbooks since 2011 but unlikely to hit four. Apple's gotten ugly.

Congratulations on moving ahead and going with tech products that will better suit your needs.

 

[nebojsak]

My point is, don't conflate repeat with happy. They are not equal.

The thing is, "happy", "sad" or "angry" users are the minority of enthusiasts which populate places like MR, those who are usually emotionaly involved in brands (in this case, Apple), and that's why we have so much emotionally charged content here - folks which want "exciting" products and which seek their dopamine shot from their youth and are dissapointed if they don't get it - which is (on the other side) pretty impossible at this stage of hardware/software and mature products.

The rest (like 99%) of the users who buy stuff just want it to be affordable and to work properly.

 

[capamac]

The thing is, "happy", "sad" or "angry" users are the minority of enthusiasts which populate places like MR, those who are usually emotionaly involved in brands (in this case, Apple), and that's why we have so much emotionally charged content here - folks which want "exciting" products and which seek their dopamine shot from their youth and are dissapointed if they don't get it - which is (on the other side) pretty impossible at this stage of hardware/software and mature products.

The rest (like 99%) of the users who buy stuff just want it to be affordable and to work properly.

Yes, such folks are known as "normies."

 

[nebojsak]

Yes, such folks are known as "normies."

I wouldn't say that, unless we apply this on every possible utility/appliance in the world.

Do you get excited about every single home and outdoors appliance? Do you frequent microwaves/fridges/ovens/air fryers/cars/boats/guitars/hi-fi/chainsaws etc etc forums and go "PLEASE BOSCH/MIEL/TOYOTA/HUSQUARNA/IBANEZ!!!11 MAKE THIS AND THAT"? Or you're "normie"?

 

[capamac]

Normies drive SUVs with automatic transmissions.

 

[nebojsak]

Might be, but they are bored while driving. Rebels Enthusiasts drive old diesel cars (like Steve used to drive before he started rolling in his grave) and are excited when cranking them up in the winter.