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1. I lump Dreamers in with the whole immigration system; illegal, Dreamers, Work Visas, and legal.

2. Just a question, if these Dreamers are such model citizens, wouldn't they make Mexico great and prosper? Why is Mexico a third world country then?

3. If my parents illegally came to Mexico, and had me, should I be able to stay there? If yes, doesn't this dispel the anti-colonialism narrative? Why are the whites of South Africa and other places being blamed, and punished for what their parents did? They didnt have a choice where they were born ether. Shouldn't they be able to live in a place they've known their whole lives too?

1. In other words you would like to have zero immigrants. You will not find any economists agreeing with you on that one. I consider the breadth of American history and immigration and figure we need immigrants the same way we need air, water, food, shelter. Only American Indians can look at USA history and say immigration at zero might have been preferable to what happened after Europeans glommed onto the place. Not sure my ancestors were all legal either. For all I know the ones came in the 1600s were traveling on false papers to dodge charges of either heresy or horse thievery. So I admit I could be somewhat biased towards seeing the merits of immigration. Illegal immigration, no. Guest worker programs, visa extensions for the felony-free documented entrants who study here or have special skills to contribute, yes, and a reasonable path to green card status for undocumented workers who have been here a long time and are law abiding. I will not blame children brought along for the ride the parents decided to risk taking. There's neither virtue nor merit in throwing Dreamers back to their country of origin. It's a vile thing to do.

2. Maybe the Dreamers would love to have remained in Mexico. They were not asked what they wanted to do when they were minors. They were taken in hand and brought here. Think back how much autonomy you had when you were a five year old. I could wander over to the next farm (at my peril if I then chose to "adopt" one of their ducklings, as I once did and got marched back home with the evidence and an offer from that farmer's wife to my mom to sell me the damn duck) but that was about my limit. The Dreamers are as "American" as I am. They worked to get their status. They're vetted. They're contributors. They're here and they belong here. Congress critters on both sides understand that.

3. If your parents illegally emigrated from here into Mexico and took you along, it would be up to Mexico to decide if you should be allowed to stay. The rest of your question there, regarding South Africa, is not really about immigration since its occupiers and colonizers were not exactly immigrants. The question in African countries of what to do about European descendants of settlers in the post colonial era is knotty and has sometimes been addressed formally in negotiations as the governments changed hands, other times, the whites have been driven out or find themselves living in precarious situations for protracted periods as assorted land reform policies arose under new governments. Yes a child should be able to live where it was born if the government agrees and that country seems like a safe place to hang out. Otherwise... the path chosen is or forced is an emigration to somewhere the parents (or a young child able to navigate in groups with others) think might be safer.
 
My God, you are cruel. Have you travelled much? Remember, karma is a bitch! And remember, the US once belonged to the Native Americans!!! Open your eyes, we outside of the USA are truly horrified with how your country is currently operating! GMO food, worst food in the world, 1 in 2 cancer, 70% reliant on medicine, 8 hours a day TV watching, 70% obesity. 1 in 2 children type 2 diabetes. That to me signals a very very sick country. Probably, the sickest in the entire world.
The DACA can teach every one a great deal and I applaud them. Diversity is what makes a country great!
The US created so much excess that even our poor are fat. We’re so sick in fact that people break the law to be here.
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And sadly these dishonest politicians are truly laughable. Their laws mean nothing. It's very sad that people believe their utter dishonesty which is promoted on American TV thanks to Fox and the Murdoch empire. Very very sad.
Thank God the rest of the world is an outsider to this hatred.
Whole lotta love being spread over Europe by box trucks.
 
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I support a limited amount of disciplined immigration into the United States, but illegal immigration has to be curtailed.

We have to set a hard cutoff where nobody entering the country illegally after a particular date will ever be allowed U.S. citizenship. Give ICE the tools they need to identify and deport anyone here illegally. Make it a crime for any government officials from the President down to the mayor of the smallest village in the nation to knowingly allow an illegal alien to reside in the country.

You already have laws that make it mandatory for people like doctors, teachers, and counselors to report suspected instances of child abuse or drug laws. Expand that to include illegal residency too. Make life difficult for anyone living here illegally and maybe it would deter them from coming over the border without following the proper procedures.

Congress also needs to pass a law clarifying the citizenship requirements in the Constitution whereby the term "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" doesn't apply to anyone whose parents aren't already American citizens. In that case the parents and the child would be subject to the jurisdiction of their country of origin and are only here in the United States subject to existing treaties with other countries. If the parents aren't eligible for citizenship then neither should the child.
 
The US created so much excess that even our poor are fat. We’re so sick in fact that people break the law to be here.

Rice without the beans can definitely make you not only fat but sick.

The US has an extreme gap between rich and poor. What we show the world is glossy enough to entice immigration, legal and otherwise. Facts on the ground for citizens born here into poverty as well as for immigrants often show another story, one so wretched that the UN has been having a look at it in terms of human rights.
 
It is a complicated issue. Few would argue that Anchor babies who were of course born in this country, or dreamers born elsewhere but brought here illegally, at a very young age by their parents or primary caregivers, have themselves broken any laws by that very act. And it would seem cruel and uncompassionate to break up (often hardworking and otherwise law-abiding) families by allowing the dreamers to stay here, while deporting their parents.

On the other hand, blanket amnesties will only encourage more of the same. Congress must deal with this tricky and delicate issue, and soon.

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I don't think amnesty is the answer, they say when they start talking seriously about amnesty, the borders FLOOD with illegal immigrants like a river.

I think we have a system in place that begins with a Visa, can become a green card, and ultimately result in citizenship. I'm pretty certain many of these people knew they were not citizens, and I am curious why many have not begun the process to citizenship so they don't get caught with their pants down at zero hour?

It is definitely not simple, but I would think increasing the workforce of those working in immigration to expedite the system for a period of time the same way we increase the workforce for census workers until we get it a little more under control? But I am just a schlub sitting here at my computer with ideas and opinions, what do I know? lol
 
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