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It’s not *my* theory.

Whatever man. You can’t just apply such a general theory that easily.
- Think turning on the lights in your home is safe? Aw, that’s just survivor bias.

Other than that, I feel like the events of the last few days have proofed my point. While I have never argued that we should not all stand together agains racism, I said that the direction this protest is going is wrong.

You can see it in NYC. Since the liberal police reform there, shootings and crime has been way up.
the Seattle autonomous zone - I don’t even know what to say. I am watching this unfold from my house in Europe and literally cannot believe what has happened to the United States. It used to be such a great country. Absolute crazyness, trash everywhere, shootings, one fatality, police not allowed to investigate.
This is what happens when you let loony bin socialists do what they please.
How can this be allowed to happen?
Then the destruction of the statues.

I have always had some sympathy for the liberal idea and always rooted more for the American Democrats than for the republicans.
And while the Republicans and especially Trump make me feel very uneasy, it’s the Democrats that have completely lost the plot. Nothing but crazy ideologues running the party.

They seem to be doing everything they can to give trump the next election as well. Defunding the police? People like AOC? The democrats weren’t nearly this crazy when Obama was in office. What has gone wrong since then?

The only reason democrats are not at 20% is trump and his own crazynes.
I always thought we Europeans had bad politicians but the US is absolutely next level.
 
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You actually can shop in an apple store. And as soon as trump-supporting white supremacists stop looting things and trying to blame it on peaceful protesters, I agree we'll be better off.
This is a lie. Maybe not your lie, but you are repeating some else’s lie. And I feel that you know that is the case.
You want to spend 8 hours a day putting tab a in slot b for minimum wage? Or would you rather have the engineering jobs that actually pay well?
That is a good job for a lot of people. And it wouldn’t be minimum wage. Not everyone has what it takes to be an engineer no matter how well educated they happen to be.
 
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Whatever man. You can’t just apply such a general theory that easily.
- Think turning on the lights in your home is safe? Aw, that’s just survivor bias.

Other than that, I feel like the events of the last few days have proofed my point. While I have never argued that we should not all stand together agains racism, I said that the direction this protest is going is wrong.

You can see it in NYC. Since the liberal police reform there, shootings and crime has been way up.
the Seattle autonomous zone - I don’t even know what to say. I am watching this unfold from my house in Europe and literally cannot believe what has happened to the United States. It used to be such a great country. Absolute crazyness, trash everywhere, shootings, one fatality, police not allowed to investigate.
This is what happens when you let loony bin socialists do what they please.
How can this be allowed to happen?
Then the destruction of the statues.

I have always had some sympathy for the liberal idea and always rooted more for the American Democrats than for the republicans.
And while the Republicans and especially Trump make me feel very uneasy, it’s the Democrats that have completely lost the plot. Nothing but crazy ideologues running the party.

They seem to be doing everything they can to give trump the next election as well. Defunding the police? People like AOC? The democrats weren’t nearly this crazy when Obama was in office. What has gone wrong since then?

The only reason democrats are not at 20% is trump and his own crazynes.
I always thought we Europeans had bad politicians but the US is absolutely next level.

From someone inside the country, the central problem seems to be our media. Yes, our politicians aren’t running the country. But when that happens, you’d think the media would start explaining it to the people. But they’re not. They’re basically on the same payrolls that the political parties are on. The same companies buying advertising on the media networks are the same ones funding the political campaigns. And only reporting stories that fit narratives that one political party or the other is running on.

I’m sure that’s true in many countries. But it’s really gotten painfully obvious in this country. To the point where the last time I checked, polling shows Just over 70% of Americans don’t trust the media.

In ‘16, part of how Trump got elected was running against the media, talking about how dishonest they were. It’s just that apparently It takes someone with as big a mouth as Trump has to actually do something like that. Because Trump is the only politicians willing to do it. You’ve probably heard some variant of the old saying, “don’t pick fights with people who buy ink by the barrel”.

But Trump has been pretty much stymied from any major accomplishments because there was this ridiculous Russiagate controversy where the left flooded the airwaves claiming Trump was some kind of Russian agent. I’m not making that up. The leftist media in America spent over two years where the major story was how supposedly the Russians manipulated our last election to get Trump elected. Then when that finally sputtered and no charges were brought, they impeached Trump based on the idea that was blackmailing Ukraine, so that they would have to investigate Biden. Long story short, Biden’s son was making all kinds of money on some Ukrainian board. And he also received ridiculous sums of money from China. And the Democrats didn’t want Trump investigating it, so they Impeached Trump for trying to get information on it...

Anyway, the reason this is a problem is the way it works in America is nothing major gets done unless there’s a ground swelling of support from the American people themselves. Several presidents have explained this to us. I can hear in my head both Obama and Clinton saying it after they got out of office. And with the institution, the media, which is responsible for informing the American people so that maybe a ground swelling could occur, obsessing over nonsense stories, the American people just haven’t ground swelled over anything,

For the last twenty years, there haven’t been any major accomplishments from the American government except writing bigger checks and starting more wars. And I blame a lot of it on the hyper-politicization of our media, especially during the Trump era. At least Trump hasn’t started any new wars. So maybe he’s doing better than average for presidents as of late.

That’s the most sense I can make out of it. I‘m not a historian though. So I don’t have a high level of confidence that that’s what sets America apart over the last twenty years. But from living here, it sure seems like it.
 
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Whatever man. You can’t just apply such a general theory that easily.
- Think turning on the lights in your home is safe? Aw, that’s just survivor bias.

People think turning on the lights is safe not just because of "survivorship bias" but because there's decades of testing and at this point centuries of figuring out how electricity works.

Likewise, people know there's discrimination that makes a Black person's life harder because there's copious amounts of data to support it.

Thinking "oh, it doesn't happen to me; therefore, it can't be that bad and they just need to try harder" is… this:

Nathan W. Pyle on Twitter: when I drew this, I wanted the eagle ...
 
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People think turning on the lights is safe not just because of "survivorship bias" but because there's decades of testing and at this point centuries of figuring out how electricity works.

Likewise, people know there's discrimination that makes a Black person's life harder because there's copious amounts of data to support it.

Thinking "oh, it doesn't happen to me; therefore, it can't be that bad and they just need to try harder" is… this:

Nathan W. Pyle on Twitter: when I drew this, I wanted the eagle ...
There definitely isn’t any data to proofs that police like to randomly kill black people.
There is however an abundance of data that black people are way for criminal than their white an Asian counterparts to the pint that they have committed more than 50% of the homicides (1980-2008) at only 18% of the population.
Maybe it would make sense to investigate what that is instead of just blaming police.

Look at New York - their Police reform was a huge flop with crime rate sharply increasing.
Or look at the crazy Seattle autonomous zone. Absolutely crazy.
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From someone inside the country, the central problem seems to be our media. Yes, our politicians aren’t running the country. But when that happens, you’d think the media would start explaining it to the people. But they’re not. They’re basically on the same payrolls that the political parties are on. The same companies buying advertising on the media networks are the same ones funding the political campaigns. And only reporting stories that fit narratives that one political party or the other is running on.

I’m sure that’s true in many countries. But it’s really gotten painfully obvious in this country. To the point where the last time I checked, polling shows Just over 70% of Americans don’t trust the media.

In ‘16, part of how Trump got elected was running against the media, talking about how dishonest they were. It’s just that apparently It takes someone with as big a mouth as Trump has to actually do something like that. Because Trump is the only politicians willing to do it. You’ve probably heard some variant of the old saying, “don’t pick fights with people who buy ink by the barrel”.

But Trump has been pretty much stymied from any major accomplishments because there was this ridiculous Russiagate controversy where the left flooded the airwaves claiming Trump was some kind of Russian agent. I’m not making that up. The leftist media in America spent over two years where the major story was how supposedly the Russians manipulated our last election to get Trump elected. Then when that finally sputtered and no charges were brought, they impeached Trump based on the idea that was blackmailing Ukraine, so that they would have to investigate Biden. Long story short, Biden’s son was making all kinds of money on some Ukrainian board. And he also received ridiculous sums of money from China. And the Democrats didn’t want Trump investigating it, so they Impeached Trump for trying to get information on it...

Anyway, the reason this is a problem is the way it works in America is nothing major gets done unless there’s a ground swelling of support from the American people themselves. Several presidents have explained this to us. I can hear in my head both Obama and Clinton saying it after they got out of office. And with the institution, the media, which is responsible for informing the American people so that maybe a ground swelling could occur, obsessing over nonsense stories, the American people just haven’t ground swelled over anything,

For the last twenty years, there haven’t been any major accomplishments from the American government except writing bigger checks and starting more wars. And I blame a lot of it on the hyper-politicization of our media, especially during the Trump era. At least Trump hasn’t started any new wars. So maybe he’s doing better than average for presidents as of late.

That’s the most sense I can make out of it. I‘m not a historian though. So I don’t have a high level of confidence that that’s what sets America apart over the last twenty years. But from living here, it sure seems like it.

I agree. I used to read the New York Times but today I feel like they are trying to brainwash people.

Even the people in their own comment section don’t agree with them anymore.

How biased does a media outlet have to be in order to downplay the absolute crazyness that is the Seattle autonomous zone?
Why can’t the liberals be normal
Liberal people that still have common sense? i know many of the ordinary more liberal people are but the people in the medi seem to run after only the crazies most ideological liberals.

No matter what political affiliation somebody has, no matter if you are pro or against guns, pro or against abortion or whatever, you cannot seriously agree with defunding or abolish long the police,creating autonomous zones and the like of you have at least a bit of common sense left.
 
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People think turning on the lights is safe not just because of "survivorship bias" but because there's decades of testing and at this point centuries of figuring out how electricity works.

Likewise, people know there's discrimination that makes a Black person's life harder because there's copious amounts of data to support it.

Thinking "oh, it doesn't happen to me; therefore, it can't be that bad and they just need to try harder" is… this:

Do you have at least a few examples of this copious amount of data?
 
Agreed. And a lot of that training is geared towards battlefield mentality rather than peacekeeping.

I am white and am also nervous when dealing with the police.
Same here. However, we would be far worse off if we weren’t white. The FBI had done investigation and warned us about the spread of white supremacy in police forces but no one took it seriously... because the power structure is white.
 
Same here. However, we would be far worse off if we weren’t white. The FBI had done investigation and warned us about the spread of white supremacy in police forces but no one took it seriously... because the power structure is white.

Wow man, you are really willing to take any scant bit of evidence turned into conspiracy theory and accept it as truth.
 
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Wow man, you are really willing to take any scant bit of evidence turned into conspiracy theory and accept it as truth.
Wow, man, you are really unwilling to accept something like an FBI investigation of US police forces.
 
Wow, man, you are really unwilling to accept something like an FBI investigation of US police forces.
FBI is a police force itself.
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I heard there has been a huge increase in gun violence in the Us in recent weeks. Even multiple kids got shot for no reason.
I also head that “not very” many white people were involved.

i also Head that on memorial weekend 60 Young Black People were killed my members of their own race.

- if you don’t want to talk about it properly, don’t talk about it at all
 
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