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LOL, you mean the less than 600 jobs that the CEO said will soon be automated? What a win for the workers! Trump supporters are just sad.

So sad that we won the election in the biggest electoral landslide victory in history

Lol, so sad
 
1 and 2 your going pretty far back in time - 3 was wrong and LBJ put an end do that saying nepotism is wrong (which is where we are today in our complaints about Trump) 4 - is an unsubstantiated un-investigated WIKI leak paper and 5 - read the article - it addresses any conflict of interest issues with President Obama ( I did not how you capitalized every letter in his full name - I wasn't sure if you were trying to make some racist point or that you like him and wanted to emphasize his name).

And what exactly are you trying to say? Are all of your arguments examples of things presidents did that were wrong or right? if your listing things that are wrong then what Trump is doing is also wrong, by your definition, and should be stopped. what's that saying - two wrongs don't make a right.


So, JFK didn't appoint his brother as The US Attorney General? I just made that up? Your credibility has remained consistently nil. Wikileaks is "fake news"? Ok. I wish I could live in your world. Good day, Sir.
 
President Trump "So executive tell me more of what your offering to America and society" Mr Musk: "Well Sir were changing the way American's will now drive towards all electric car's and were also going to Mar's"... Mr Bezos "Mr President were changing the way the world purchases good's and were about to offer customers no more waiting in line at cashiers for groceries ect"...Mrs Sandberg "Mr Trump were changing the way the internet connect's the world's population to one another threw social networking"...Mr Cook "Yes Sir Mr President were offering a new watch strap!"
 
And when has there been any sort of impressively productive meeting on real economic drivers like this in the past 8 years? I rest my case.
Oh, you "rest your case"? Name one single tangible "impressively productive" result of this meeting. If it was so "impressively productive" you could probably name 5... maybe even 10!?

How about they just talked. That's all you or anyone else knows. You have no idea of anything specific they talked about in any detail whatsoever. Stop propping up your idol until there are actual tangible public laws and policies on paper as a direct result of his actions, or you just sound like a regurgitating brainwashed sycophant at worst and at best ignorant.
 
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Homophobic? Well he's going to be pretty, pretty surprised when he learns about Tim and Peter.
Maybe for the best, next thing you know your vice president to be may try to "cure" them.

I must say that I think people are right to defend him when somebody labels him a racist, homophobic, ... Because he clearly isn't. He is a big opportunist and depending on the crowd or who is backing him, he changes his tunes multiple times.

Is no friends with the rich, to fill in his complete cabinet with 1%'ers. Is against lobbyist but has some in his cabinet. Is against goldman sachs but appoints... Is against certain people or their capabilities but when elected tries to get them in his cabinet, eventually "making America great again" with people who weren't up to the job... . Brings jobs back... to American robots. Walls becoming fences. ...

And that is just on the top of my head. The guy is already backtracking or contradicting him in so many occasions (even not being in power) that Apple seriously may start releasing beefier hardware because we will need to have some computational heavy algorithms to make any sense out of it. Although I think trump is like a P versus NP problem because there is no logic with the exception of ********ting people.

But it's clear he doesn't care if he is saying black one day and red the other day and his supporters also don't seem to care. I don't believe they are stupid (I don't believe in stupid Americans because I know too many smart ones) like the Germans weren't when Hitler was in power, but they only want to hear the things they want to hear.

History is just repeating itself minus the atrocities.

BTW here is brainteaser: if Trump is no racist or doesn't cater those ideas why is it that the only Trump supporters at Europe are racist from nature (in this country even with historical ties to the nazi's) I don't think it's because they see him as somebody with a pluralistic view.
 
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Maybe for the best, next thing you know your vice president to be may try to "cure" them.

I must say that I think people are right to defend him when somebody labels him a racist, homophobic, ... Because he clearly isn't. He is a big opportunist and depending on the crowd or who is backing him, he changes his tunes multiple times.

Is no friends with the rich, to fill in his complete cabinet with 1%'ers. Is against lobbyist but has some in his cabinet. Is against goldman sachs but appoints... Is against certain people or their capabilities but when elected tries to get them in his cabinet, eventually "making America great again" with people who weren't up to the job... . Brings jobs back... to American robots. Walls becoming fences. ...

And that is just on the top of my head. The guy is already backtracking or contradicting him in so many occasions (even not being in power) that Apple seriously may start releasing beefier hardware because we will need to have some computational heavy algorithms to make any sense out of it. Although I think trump is like a P versus NP problem because there is no logic with the exception of ********ting people.

But it's clear he doesn't care if he is saying black one day and red the other day and his supporters also don't seem to care. I don't believe they are stupid (I don't believe in stupid Americans because I know too many smart ones) like the Germans weren't when Hitler was in power, but they only want to hear the things they want to hear.

History is just repeating itself minus the atrocities.

BTW here is brainteaser: if Trump is no racist or doesn't cater those ideas why is it that the only Trump supporters at Europe are racist from nature (in this country even with historical ties to the nazi's) I don't think it's because they see him as somebody with a pluralistic view.

No, you can't defend him. Who gives a crap what he says anymore? Just look into the background of the people he's filling his staff with. Well known homophobes and racist *******s.
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Repatriation is a ****ing joke. I doubt hes going to enact any of thode import taxes. He'll probably just do what he did with carrier, which was kinda ******

Why is it a good thing that Apple brings its money back if they magically no longer have to pay taxes on it? How is that fair or beneficial to America? I just don't understand conservative logic. I guess some is better than NONE, but not by much.
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Lol, so sad that you believe that lie.

He voted for the idiot, of course he believes the lie. Trump supporters don't give a crap about facts, truth or anything. all they care about is their white angst.
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Nope. He said 1,000, but it's actually ess than 600, and he had to cut their taxes to ribbons to do it, AND he's a stockholder, AND they will go to Mexico eventually in any case. And he lied to the workforce too. Read up on it, its shameful.

and, AND he had NOTHING to do with it. I guess the economy is now mysteriously BOOMING, BOOMING, BOOMING. Because Trump said so and is taking credit for it. When just a 2 months ago. We were a 3rd world country. Never mind Trump isn't President yet, doesn't and can't have a real impact anything for at least a YEAR.
 
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I think that was the point overall he was trying to make. That the America's have generally been what they are because of generations of immigration.

Almost everything that North America is today, it's progressiveness, it's innovations, its economies, are all products of immigrants and their families.

Somehow, amongst conservative minded people, the notion of "Old Stock" somehow makes you more important to the nation is disturbing. IN Canada, Harper tried to run a campaign based off calling people "old stock" v "new stock" Canadians. it backfired royally. North American culture si too much an amalgomation of worldwide cultures and people, that trying to play divisive lines between old and new is dangerous and quite terrifying

I don't know a single conservative that looks at immigrants in a different light. Once you are here legally and contributing to society and working hard, you are one of us. You are an American, no different than Joe Texan. We actually have more respect for them than typical Americans because we know how hard it is to get here the right way. We just do not like subsidizing illegal immigrants with our tax dollars.
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How about violating the emolument clause in the US constitution? Trump, as owner of his companies, is directly and personally accepting payments from foreign states. This isn't a theoretical problem, this is literally what the US constitution says presidents shall not do. The Founding Fathers put that clause in there specifically to ensure the president cannot be corrupted my financial interests of foreign states.

He is separating him self from his companies.............
 
So sad that we won the election in the biggest electoral landslide victory in history

Lol, so sad

So I guess the fact that Obama had 332 Electoral Votes in 2012 doesn't count? Or the fact that Trump LOST the POPULAR vote by over 2 MILLION? But hey, none of that matters because a bunch of white people in **** small states that no one wants to live in voted for him. Who by the way spent the last several years suppressing votes AND jerry rigging Congressional Districts. I'm not mad at them - I wish Democrats had the guts to do the same, but don't act like Conservatives could EVER straight up win an election in this country without using scummy tactics. Jeebebus you Trump supporters are either stupid or WILLFULLY ignorant? Which one is it?
 
So sad that we won the election in the biggest electoral landslide victory in history

Lol, so sad

His electoral college victory wasn't anywhere near the biggest win in history. In fact he had one of the smallest wins in history at #46, Clinton and Obama won by larger margins.

This is the biggest problem I have with many Trump supporters. He says something (most of it lies) and you line up like ducks and follow him blindly with no question or desire to seek the truth. People like you will be the scariest part of his presidency for me.
 
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I guess it boils down to this. You don't like him. Cool. He's going to be our president in 1 month. You can acknowledge that he's an imperfect human (psst: we all are) and hope this country prospers (if you are a legal US resident) or you can be miserable the entire time. Or move to Tijuana, Aleppo or otherwise? (Canada's full) None of it really matters since nothing will change. Hillary is never going to be president and Bernie is 100 years old. The only thing that's drastically changed for the better is mine and your 401k/stocks.

So yeah, duped or whatever, I support our PEOTUS just like I did/do any president because I'm an American first. What you do is your business and I don't envy your position. Sounds miserable to be pissed off around the clock.
Perfect!
 
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President Trump "So executive tell me more of what your offering to America and society" Mr Musk: "Well Sir were changing the way American's will now drive towards all electric car's and were also going to Mar's"... Mr Bezos "Mr President were changing the way the world purchases good's and were about to offer customers no more waiting in line at cashiers for groceries ect"...Mrs Sandberg "Mr Trump were changing the way the internet connect's the world's population to one another threw social networking"...Mr Cook "Yes Sir Mr President were offering a new watch strap!"

"and a revolutionary Touch Bar!"
 
So sad that we won the election in the biggest electoral landslide victory in history

Lol, so sad
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Whatever you think of his personal past (none of it that I agree with at all), he won the election and got elected as president. He has a job to do professionally and has run a business professionally that you could say is successful.

He has the sword now. Watch how he acts as a president from January. It's not complicated. It's the same for our own UK government regarding brexit.
You could.

You'd be massively glossing over an awful lot.

But yeah, I suppose you could.
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So sad that we won the election in the biggest electoral landslide victory in history

Lol, so sad
44th biggest Electoral College "landslide" out of 54 elections

The only record landslide in this election is the landslide in which the "losing" candidate won the popular vote.
 
Why on earth were Trumps children at this meeting??? Aren't they running his businesses??? Trump will go down in history as the most corrupt president America has ever had.

Cry about it -- people like you are the exact reason why the thread is locked to members with 100+ posts but it looks like you belong on the whitelist too.
 
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Why on earth were Trumps children at this meeting??? Aren't they running his businesses??? Trump will go down in history as the most corrupt president America has ever had.
It wasn't an official government meeting and he's not even in office yet. Any questions?
 
Whenever I hear somebody in USA complaining about jobs being taken away my first statement is always that it starts with eduction. (Of course there are more factors)

The education system is so flawed that it is impossible to get the talent up to international standards. Obviously the parents play a big role.
Chasing the dream of being rich, competing with the neighbors, materialistic thinking, having to have two incomes etc. are all contributing factors.
We see examples how parents from other nations sit with their children doing homework together and teach until they get it. They foster the interest in math and sciences.

Being older, I find todays generation is encouraged too easily to give up when something is hard.

The sheer amount of engineers we find in China and Japan is not matched in the US percentage wise.

I am not an American citizen, so I can't vote. I didn't/don't like much of the Trump bravado, but I think we need to give it time and be fair to let him do what he thinks will help the US.

He knows that some of it was just campaign rhetoric and he has to follow the law.

He also knows how to make money(and avoid taxes), so getting mostly business people as advisors and cabinet members is a good start. Don't know why he is bringing his children in, but unfair to judge until we see what they do.

Reaching out to industry leaders for discussions is a better way to go than empty threats.

You are right about education. It all starts there. The sheer amount of uneducated people always seem to dominate a population, and that can do great damage. That's why Trump is in power today. People need to be given a fair chance in the society, which seems hard in the U.S.

About Trump. He is most likely a physcopath. Shows all the traits to be one. Physcopaths are manipulate, paranoid, liers, no empathy, narcissistic. They hide behind other people to not show their own incompetence. The ones he will trust most are his own kids. They are loyal. How American people managed to vote for Trump is mindboggling, yet not hard to understand, if analyzed. The cabinet of people Trump is forming is scary.

Obama was one of the very intelligent ones. Too intelligent to be recognized by his own people. He tried to cooperate, which got mercilessly used against him. Republicans did nothing than trying to screw him on everything, making him look weak, yet U.S people reward them and make a clown and physcopath like Trump president. Obama must feel humilated like few. It's all mindboggling and scary.
 
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It wasn't an official government meeting and he's not even in office yet. Any questions?
many many many questions which is why i posted this. He's raising too many eyebrows. Even the appearance of impropriety is enough to make many of us question his actions. Republicans have questioned the Clinton's to death - starting with White Water and continuing with Hillary's private email server (with no conviction of any sorts, I might add). Suddenly, when a Republican is elected, they're questioning nothing. I call BS on that. He's conducting meetings as PEOTUS - meaning he's representing the U.S. with foreign leaders and our own tech industry leaders. There was a reason LBJ enacted The Federal Anti-Nepotism Statue. I'm not saying he shouldn't have these meetings, but, his children should not be present. Again, if you questioned the Clinton's and don't question this then your either an apologist or a moron.
 
Why on earth were Trumps children at this meeting??? Aren't they running his businesses??? Trump will go down in history as the most corrupt president America has ever had.
The thing that blows my mind is the fact that half the country is watching this all go down and not batting an eyelid, as if this dude isn't just as corrupt and full of lies as Hillary. But of course there are plenty of people on Hillary's side who don't seem to see her corruption and lies, so what can you do?
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I'm most definitely no fan of Trump, but I have to admire this kind of approach. It's very unusual, seems like a break in protocol from the norm, and he just want to cut red tape to help businesses do better in the USA. It'll certainly be an interesting couple of years.
I wish it was only a couple! Unless something happens very soon, it's going to be probably a full four.
What a load of crap.

He's done more in 1 year for our international deals, climate change initiatives and started the ball rolling on reforming our drug policies, electoral reform, rolling back Harper era unconstitutional laws, all while taking selfies.

Don't let that good old conservative narrative show through

Now Trudeau ain't perfect. I expect him to honour his promises and I will hold him to it, but to repeat this mindless conservative talking point about doing nothing and only taking selfies is juvenile and factually wrong

He's not been perfect so far, but you can track what he's been doing

https://www.trudeaumetre.ca/
(BTW: this page is not run by Trudeau or the liberal party and is a 3rd private party who decided to run it. Trudeau himself has said he reguarly checks the site as it gives him feedback on how he's doing)

And to think trump is somehow already better than Trudeau for the appointments he's done is terrifying. Heck, I'd still prefer Harper over a trump anyday
It really makes me feel so relieved to see that the same basic thing that's going on here in the U.S. is also happening in Canada. I mean that honestly, no sarcasm. Like, my country can't be going too far off the rails if good ol' Canada is doing the same thing.
 
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