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Oh the irony of meeting with someone who called for the boycott of your products.

He hasn't even started yet. And not sure what you're defining as "corrupt".

Give the man a chance and see if he falls on his sword.

So, prior to being elected he had a history of corruption. Self dealing in Florida, illegally violating the embargo in Cuba, fake universities in which AGs are bribed to look the other way. And now he is in a position to being even more corrupt. The post office hotel is especially concerning. Huge conflict of interest with foreign governments giving him money to stay there and curry favor with him while they are in town meeting with him. Plus he cannot be his own landlord. It will be a breach of contract. The Trump towers in Turkey are also concerning leading to be used as bargaining chips by the Turkish government.

Trump is already making America great again, that's for sure

If by great you mean more divisive, and more cozy with dictators like Putin, sure.

It had nothing to do with getting singled out. Trump is going to change the rules for EVERYONE and it will be up to Mr. Cook to follow them or pay the price.

Do you think he is some sort of king? He has very limited powers to change things for tech leaders without congress on board.

Pay attention, his children are part of this transition team. Once he takes office, they will not play a part in the administration, so he has said. It is really sad that you don't see that he is surrounding himself with the people he trusts, family

I fail to see what changes on Inauguration Day. Do people become suddenly trustworthy that day? If the need for his children exist now, then the need will still exist a mere four weeks from now.

Wish we had Trump in the UK
He's all yours. You can have him! No returns though. All sales are final. :D

Trump speaks as a normal person. He says things in the moment that are the language of normal people, not a smooth talking political person

No. Normal people don't talk about dating their daughter or grabbing p.

Further, he has also made clear that the businesses would be making no new deals while he is in office to keep it arm's length in appearance and fact.
So what? He still has existing properties out there that are still a conflict and source of leverage.

Americans have made their voices heard. They don't want Obamacare nor do they want socialism.

You must be blissfully unaware that Obamacare has been having record signup numbers:

More than 670,000 people signed up for health coverage through the Affordable Care Act on Thursday, marking the busiest single enrollment day since the healthcare law’s coverage expansion began three years ago
http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit...hit-new-record-even-1481916101-htmlstory.html
 
The thing that blows my mind is the fact that half the country is watching this all go down and not batting an eyelid, as if this dude isn't just as corrupt and full of lies as Hillary. But of course there are plenty of people on Hillary's side who don't seem to see her corruption and lies, so what can you do?
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I wish it was only a couple! Unless something happens very soon, it's going to be probably a full four.

It really makes me feel so relieved to see that the same basic thing that's going on here in the U.S. is also happening in Canada. I mean that honestly, no sarcasm. Like, my country can't be going too far off the rails if good ol' Canada is doing the same thing.

we share a lot in Common. We have right, left, middles and the like. Our political system handles it differently, What is different is our electoral system, and how our governments work.

bu at the end of the day, we do share a lot of the same ideologies. Just the numbers of who support each are vasty different. Canada tends to be far more liberal overall.

there's some truth that we "lag" behind the US in what happens politically. Harper, our previous prime minister and the conservative party is very much seen like the Bush administration. And Trudeau is very much the voice of "change" that Obama was supposed to. And we ARE seeing a lot of minority Conservative supporters who are very loud and angry about losing power. They are speaking with emotion that the leadership no longer represents them. What it fails to aknowledge is that Canadian population as a whole is predominantly liberal, and not conservative. Conservatives have very rarely had more than 30% of the popular vote (with some notable and explainable exceptions). The far right "tea party" religious right is even smaller, though louder portion of that group.

I know i've repeated myself, But Conservative supporters (the party, not the mindset) refuse to knowledge that the religious backed doctrines, corporate ties to government, and general right winged politics is not even close to a majority of the population here. in our last election in 2015, Left wing parties accounted for 70% of the popular vote. The sole right wing party was 30%. in an election that saw a significant uptick in voter turnout. But because of the First Past the post electoral system we have, a party can win majority of control of the government without a popular majority (even the current liberals only had 43%)

now, whether or not we chose the best of the left to lead is a different matter. The "Liberal" government of Canada historically is the "de facto" government. They have more leaderships than any other party, so its often considered they get the "default" vote. But unlike Canadian Conservatives, the rest of Canada doesn't look at politics as a YES/NO thing. it's not a zero sum game and there arenot' just two mindsets. this is really where Canada seperates itself. Instead of "left v right" or really in the US case "right v extreme right", we have options accross the whole spectrum. As I said, in the last election there were effectively 4 left wing parties (Liberal, NDP, Green, Bloc) and only One on the right (Conservative).

TLDR: Conservative party supporters are really upset that their party is no longer in control of Canada, and instead of this country now being run by a 50-60 year old, it's being run by a Gen X 43 year old former school teacher, whose policies are significantly more left winged than we've had in the last 15 years. They're upset because they no longer feel represented. And instead of making legitimate arguments WHY, they are taking the mindset that they don't care WHAT Trudeau does, as long as it's against their ideology, all he's doing is taking selfies and being a social media star. It is starting to sound exactly like petulant children throwing hissy fits and often doesn't / can't be backed by facts/ reality. Listen, I hated Harper, and I think he was a disaster for Canada, But because I didn't agree with him, doesn't mean he suddenly didn't do anything.

at the end of the day though, Canada and US do have a lot of differences in popular ideology: some recent polling shows the difference
http://abacusdata.ca/canadians-mora...tly-from-that-of-our-neighbours-to-the-south/
 
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"Tim Cook, very good to be here," said the Apple CEO. "And I look very forward to talking to the President-elect about the things that we can do to help you achieve some things you want."

Tell me these are typos. Does he really speak this awkwardly when not reading a teleprompter?

Also, the text editing on this site is entirely broken on iOS. Paste some text into the box, type some text. Select the pasted text, "accidentally" cut it. Undo from iOS and watch what is undone (your typed text is undone, not the cutting of your pasted text). Then there's the formatting bar above the edit box. How exactly are we supposed to use those with selected text on iOS at the top of the edit box when the iOS text selection commands are in front of the formatting buttons?

Over on Apple Insider, their text boxes tend to break autocorrect. Same thing randomly happens on Facebook. No one texts anything these days.
[doublepost=1481920483][/doublepost]PS: It's gotten to the point where I see no Trump supporters who even have a clue, let alone are able to see reality. Did the barely reasonable ones realize they screwed up, stop supporting him, and leave only the most clueless and vocal ones to be the voice of support for their fascist overlord wannabe?
 
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"Tim Cook, very good to be here," said the Apple CEO. "And I look very forward to talking to the President-elect about the things that we can do to help you achieve some things you want."

Tell me these are typos. Does he really speak this awkwardly when not reading a teleprompter?

Also, the text editing on this site is entirely broken on iOS. Paste some text into the box, type some text. Select the pasted text, "accidentally" cut it. Undo from iOS and watch what is undone (your typed text is undone, not the cutting of your pasted text). Then there's the formatting bar above the edit box. How exactly are we supposed to use those with selected text on iOS at the top of the edit box when the iOS text selection commands are in front of the formatting buttons?

Over on Apple Insider, their text boxes tend to break autocorrect. Same thing randomly happens on Facebook. No one texts anything these days.
[doublepost=1481920483][/doublepost]PS: It's gotten to the point where I see no Trump supporters who even have a clue, let alone are able to see reality. Did the barely reasonable ones realize they screwed up, stop supporting him, and leave only the most clueless and vocal ones to be the voice of support for their fascist overlord wannabe?

I'd rather think that he chose his words very, very carefully to make a point that he won't be giving Drumpf unconditional support.
 
Trump: "Now we come to Apple - Tim! Glad you are here.. what the F are you doing?"

Tim: "Blank face"

Meanwhile..

*Steve Jobs*: Trump.. make Apple great again.
 
Is no one going to mention the hair wig? Ok, what is that? They all look forced to be there, don must love everyone toadying him and licking his bumhole.
 
Why on earth were Trumps children at this meeting??? Aren't they running his businesses??? Trump will go down in history as the most corrupt president America has ever had.

Dear lord...melodramatic much??
[doublepost=1481945004][/doublepost]The MacRumors politics sub-forum hasn't changed from being a haven of far-left idealogues, I see. Trump holds a meeting to ask tech company CEO's what they need government to do (or stop doing in all likelihood) to help innovation thrive, and all I see are people saying it's the end of the world or something to that effect.

This is why less and less people like liberals these days.
 
Dear lord...melodramatic much??

It's not melodramatic to point out the conflicts and corruption. It's funny how many leaps of corruption were made by the right wing over Hillary with no evidence, but Trump gets a pass even when the evidence is literally in front of their eyes.

But hey, as the President pointed out today, a lot of Republicans and Trump supporters actually like Putin. Reagan is indeed spinning in his grave. All that he worked for is being flushed down the toilet by his very own party who have not been very good stewards.

This is why less and less people like right wingers/Trump supporters these days.
 
Dear lord...melodramatic much??
[doublepost=1481945004][/doublepost]The MacRumors politics sub-forum hasn't changed from being a haven of far-left idealogues, I see. Trump holds a meeting to ask tech company CEO's what they need government to do (or stop doing in all likelihood) to help innovation thrive, and all I see are people saying it's the end of the world or something to that effect.

This is why less and less people like liberals these days.
I didn't complain about him having a meeting. Clearly you didn't read my post but, you instead decided to make up your own narrative. Seems to be a common theme with Trump supporters. This is why less and less people like Trump supporters.
 
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I didn't complain about him having a meeting. Clearly you didn't read my post but, Instead decided to make up your own narrative. Seems to be a common theme with Trump supporters. This is why less and less people like Trump supporters.

Odd narrative considering he won the election, and his approval ratings skyrocketed after winning. You weren't complaining, you were spouting off drivel about Trump not keeping a casual meeting with tech biz execs sterile from his children, which somehow equated to him being "the most corrupt president of all time". But keep living in your bubble.
 
If by great you mean more divisive, and more cozy with dictators like Putin, sure.

Wasn't Obama watching baseball and eating hotdogs with Castro just a few months ago?

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I don't think Trump and Putin have ever been this cozy. Castro is a pretty nasty dictator.
 
Odd narrative considering he won the election, and his approval ratings skyrocketed after winning. You weren't complaining, you were spouting off drivel about Trump not keeping a casual meeting with tech biz execs sterile from his children, which somehow equated to him being "the most corrupt president of all time". But keep living in your bubble.
What exactly does him winning the election and approval rating have to do with what I said? There is no connection. Yet again you're making up some narrative to fit some internal monologue. You say he had a "casual" meeting ... with some of the most powerful executives in business today?? As opposed to something ... non-casual? Um... whatever. His children are running his private businesses. They have no business being in any meetings conducted by him on behalf of the USA. Family members, as LBJ indicated, should not be involved in the business of the president. what I said is - he will be the most corrupt president we've ever had. It's a prediction based on his past and present behavior. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but, I highly doubt it.
 
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No, you can't defend him. Who gives a crap what he says anymore? Just look into the background of the people he's filling his staff with. Well known homophobes and racist *******s.
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Why is it a good thing that Apple brings its money back if they magically no longer have to pay taxes on it? How is that fair or beneficial to America? I just don't understand conservative logic. I guess some is better than NONE, but not by much.
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He voted for the idiot, of course he believes the lie. Trump supporters don't give a crap about facts, truth or anything. all they care about is their white angst.
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and, AND he had NOTHING to do with it. I guess the economy is now mysteriously BOOMING, BOOMING, BOOMING. Because Trump said so and is taking credit for it. When just a 2 months ago. We were a 3rd world country. Never mind Trump isn't President yet, doesn't and can't have a real impact anything for at least a YEAR.

I'm not a conservative by litteraly any measurements. I am categorized as a Leftist Libertarian, and am a supporter of Bernie Sanders. Not sure where you got your ideas about me being conservative
 
Wasn't Obama watching baseball and eating hotdogs with Castro just a few months ago?

Yes, which I was quite unhappy about and did generate complaints certainly from the right wing, but probably from some on the other side of the aisle too, like me who take a dim view of such things.

I don't think Trump and Putin have ever been this cozy. Castro is a pretty nasty dictator.
Give him time. Certainly his Secretary of State pick has been that cozy. Laughing it up and getting a "friendship award" from Putin:

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PS: It's gotten to the point where I see no Trump supporters who even have a clue, let alone are able to see reality. Did the barely reasonable ones realize they screwed up, stop supporting him, and leave only the most clueless and vocal ones to be the voice of support for their fascist overlord wannabe?

If posting snark is the only action you've taken in response to the ascension of this "fascist overlord wannabe", then it's pretty obvious that you have no problem living under a fascist regime.
 
Yes, which I was quite unhappy about and did generate complaints certainly from the right wing, but probably from some on the other side of the aisle too, like me who take a dim view of such things.


Give him time. Certainly his Secretary of State pick has been that cozy. Laughing it up and getting a "friendship award" from Putin:

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I certainly think there is a difference between what someone has done and what we think they will do.
 
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I certainly think there is a difference between what someone has done and what we think they will do.
I gave you an example of what Trump's pick for SoS has actually done. He also went over to Russia at a time when the U.S. Government asked him not to so as to not undermine our sanctions. He went anyway.

Much like Trump, his historical allegiance has been to himself and his corporate interest. Not American interest first.
 
I gave you an example of what Trump's pick for SoS has actually done. He also went over to Russia at a time when the U.S. Government asked him not to so as to not undermine our sanctions. He went anyway.

Much like Trump, his historical allegiance has been to himself and his corporate interest. Not American interest first.
Again, I'm just not as afraid of Russia as others here. Russia feels like an enemy the Obama administration has created for a political end.
 
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Why on earth were Trumps children at this meeting??? Aren't they running his businesses??? Trump will go down in history as the most corrupt president America has ever had.
He's not president yet.....

This is a meeting about him as a president, not about his business. What exactly are you getting at?
 
Again, I'm just not as afraid of Russia as others here. Russia feels like an enemy the Obama administration has created for a political end.
Really? Did Obama hop in a time machine and tell Reagan to think that too? Our feelings towards Russia were in place many decades before Obama ever stepped into office.

You and others like you really need to crack open a history book and understand that Russia is not our friend. Friends don't point nukes at each other.
 
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Really? Did Obama hop in a time machine and tell Reagan to think that too? Our feelings towards Russia were in place many decades before Obama ever stepped into office.

You and others like you really need to crack open a history book and understand that Russia is not our friend. Friends don't point nukes at each other.
Wake up sweetie, it's not 1980 anymore. Relations can change, and have changed. The cold war ended decades ago and people are trying to awaken it.

Try looking past your own gate and bias and see the real world.
 
Wake up sweetie, it's not 1980 anymore. Relations can change, and have changed. The cold war ended decades ago and people are trying to awaken it.

Try looking past your own gate and bias and see the real world.
You are the one who needs to wake up....big league. Russia is lead by a KGB guy. They have no free press. Dissenting journalists disappear or are outright murdered. They don't respect human rights or borders.

Seriously why don't you see that? Take the blinders off. For some bizarre reason you think things have changed when instead it is more of the same.

Russia is not our friend.
 
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Wake up sweetie, it's not 1980 anymore. Relations can change, and have changed. The cold war ended decades ago and people are trying to awaken it.

Try looking past your own gate and bias and see the real world.
In the "real world" as you say, Russia hacked the DNC in an effort to influence the Presidential election. I suppose when Trump tells you to be concerned then you will, until then you won't. Quack quack "sweetie"
 
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