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A potential SCOTUS justice who does not see Roe V Wade as settled law is very likely to disagree with the legal grounding for gay marriage as well. And besides, I don't care how "pro-life" someone is:

1. You cannot govern a free society based on your personal religious beliefs
2. Returning to the days of coat hangers and back alley abortions does not help anyone
It is rare for the Supreme Court to overrule itself.
 
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I'm afraid Trump will try to round up Muslim Americans, silence the press, and try to get Ivanka elected president after him.
Has he ever claimed to round up Muslim Americans? 1st Amendment, not going to happen. Back in '10 when there was a misunderstanding between Fox and the Treasury Dept. other media outlets were ready to reject conferences unless Fox was there. At worst Trump could endorse Ivanka.
 
It is rare for the Supreme Court to overrule itself.

The religious right has been fighting for supreme court nominees that will do just that.
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Has he ever claimed to round up Muslim Americans? 1st Amendment, not going to happen. Back in '10 when there was a misunderstanding between Fox and the Treasury Dept. other media outlets were ready to reject conferences unless Fox was there. At worst Trump could endorse Ivanka.

it starts with a registry.
 
It has. Pro 2A groups were just afraid of Hillary doing the same thing with Heller.



Funny, 2A groups say the same exact thing.

In all fairness, the 2nd Amendment leaves a lot of room for interpretation:

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

What constitutes a militia? How is well regulated defined? What weapons can be classified as arms? How do changes in technology influence the interpretation?

That's a bit different. Last I checked, Hillary was not calling for an outright ban, so interpreting whether or not what she wanted to do fit within the scope of the 2A is a bit of a difficult call.
 
What constitutes a militia? How is well regulated defined? What weapons can be classified as arms? How do changes in technology influence the interpretation?

Exactly! Why doesn't the second amendment allow ordinary citizens to own military tanks? Anti aircraft missles? Land mines? Nuclear weapons? Aren't they all "arms"?
 
The problem is that equality, multiculturalism and climate change are your religion, I think these are false gods. Luckily your idols are in the process of being smashed to pieces. Weep.
Equality and multiculturalism are simply a matter of being decent to every human, rather than only to those who are the same color, gender, and religion as you. Apparently you think it's okay to treat people badly because they look different than you. That's not a very Christ-like way to behave.

And scientific consensus is that climate change is real. Believing otherwise is ignoring the truth because you don't like it, or have something to gain from pretending it's not true. That you couch everything in terms of religion shows you view the world through a veil of fairy tales rather than seeing the world as it actually is.

And you think smashing other people's religious artifacts to pieces is a good thing? That's really neat. You'd fit in well with ISIS, perhaps they have a position available for you. They're busily smashing priceless artifacts and archaeological sites to pieces in the Middle East, just because those bits don't fit with their religion. Just like you want. Do you cheer for them as well?
 
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In all fairness, the 2nd Amendment leaves a lot of room for interpretation:



What constitutes a militia? How is well regulated defined? What weapons can be classified as arms? How do changes in technology influence the interpretation?

That's a bit different. Last I checked, Hillary was not calling for an outright ban, so interpreting whether or not what she wanted to do fit within the scope of the 2A is a bit of a difficult call.

Able bodied males between 17 and 45 years of age.
Well regulated, remember we are using 18th century language, Regulated meant well trained/in working order.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Bearable arms. Though there could be an argument made for heavier weapons. The Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 relied on Privateers and Letters of Marque.
They don't. The Founding Fathers foresaw the advancement in weapon technology. Why nothing compared to today's machine guns the Puckle Gun was around for about 50+ years before the Revolutionary War.
Hillary wanted to overturn Heller v. DC.
Anyways this is getting a little too off topic, we can continue in another thread or IM if you would like.

 
Of course every time we vote, we are also taking a chance at someone will do the 'right thing'

You can't please everyone.
 
The problem is that equality, multiculturalism and climate change are your religion, I think these are false gods. Luckily your idols are in the process of being smashed to pieces. Weep.

Huh? My religion? What on earth are you talking about?

You don't even know me, or have anything to go on at all to come out with crap like that.

The problem here is that people like you seem to dismiss anybody who so much as suggests that equality or multiculturalism are good things, or that climate change is all too real, with crap about them being their religion.

How about instead of doing that you put together some sort of coherent argument about why you don't consider equality and multiculturalism to be good things, or why you don't think climate change is all too real....?
 
Exactly! Why doesn't the second amendment allow ordinary citizens to own military tanks? Anti aircraft missles? Land mines? Nuclear weapons? Aren't they all "arms"?
I am sure that this will not come) is a face of a reasonable and it will not pass
 
In all fairness, the 2nd Amendment leaves a lot of room for interpretation:

What constitutes a militia? How is well regulated defined? What weapons can be classified as arms? How do changes in technology influence the interpretation?

That's a bit different. Last I checked, Hillary was not calling for an outright ban, so interpreting whether or not what she wanted to do fit within the scope of the 2A is a bit of a difficult call.

On this very subject, this guy absolutely nails it:


Parts 1 & 2 run to about 15 minutes, but absolutely worth 15 minutes of everyone's time.
 
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If that overhead is 85% of the final cost then doing the assembly in N. America or Europe can't add all that much to the final cost, can it?

See you have to think creatively... the iPhone could be supplied as a kit in a bag. Then each person only has to build 1 phone for 0.00 $. It actually works out cheaper than the china option! and it is scales well.... problem solved :)
 
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