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Amidst these claims and counterclaims, we need to hear from Jony himself. What say you, Mr. Ive?
Bear with us; we've got him hooked up to a computer running Xcode via his 14-pin diagnostic port and are waiting for in initial console log…

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So i totally get why Johny would want to leave and seemed to not care any more with apple because his partner Steve is gone and there is no one worthy for him to bounce design and ideas off of. Tim is just not that guy.

What they need there is another Rebel, another Steve Jobs who cares more about changing the world then making a profit!

I think Jony would have left eventually whether or not Steve Jobs was still around. The reality is Jony is very rich and very well known at this point, and is free to pursue his own passions (and leisure time) rather than running on the Apple treadmill as he has been for decades. Aside from Steve Jobs, Jony was the closest thing to a “superstar” at Apple, and superstars tend to get tired of routine and constraints. He certainly doesn’t need the money or the insane work schedule anymore.
 
I don't think the WSJ article said the design team was not talented.

I think the article talked about how Ive had basically checked out over the past few years.

Cook's comment is misdirection--it doesn't address the true point of the article.

Leads me to believe the WSJ article was largely accurate.

Tim Cook called the article absurd and a distortion of reality. Doesn’t get much clearer than that.
 
So... profit does not make company thrive...? Then, what is the purpose of the company. I thought all company was made to well... make money?
Hopefully this is a rhetorical question. Of course it does. But this Apple is not early 2000s Apple. Rather than focusing on a few, really great and magical products there’s persistent, questionable decision making from anything down to internal operations, designs, software, etc. and there’s 10 different iPhones for sale and 5 different iPads and it’s just all kind of messy. So rather than really making a few products really excel in every aspect of their existence, they have too much going on and it’s really going to affect them if not sooner, then later. And this is vague but that’s because I really don’t want to take the time to explain every facet (ie every iOS release feeling like a beta until a year into updates, but oh wait, time for another new release. Wash rinse repeat.)

Edit: said the world really 27 times, my bad. And grammar. But I’m trying to browse the forum while also being busy.
 
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Cooks unraveling here, its was always going to happen what with the tanking iPhone sales. Doubt he'll see out the year..
 
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Looks like somebody touched a nerve here. :rolleyes:

Seeing as the WSJ report corroborates some of the cultural problems within Apple that a select few of us (those immune to reality-distortion fields) had surmised over these past five years - based on the lackluster output of hardware and software, along with Apple's increased focus on shareholder happiness to the detriment of customer happiness - I am not in least bit surprised.

Quality is Apple's proverbial "canary in the coal mine," and for those of us with functioning olfactory receptors, the smell coming from Cupertino has been a little worrying at times. ;)
 
Tim Cook called the article absurd and a distortion of reality. Doesn’t get much clearer than that.
Here's what he said:

"it shows a lack of understanding about how the design team works and how Apple works. It distorts relationships, decisions and events to the point that we just don't recognize the company it claims to describe."

You know what's clearer. "None of that article is true. None of it."

That's "much clearer" than what he said.
 
Amidst these claims and counterclaims, we need to hear from Jony himself. What say you, Mr. Ive?

I’d say Mr Ive is smart enough not to criticise his former employer in any way publicly so long as he still wants to earn money from them. I wouldn’t be surprised if there aren’t even firm contracts for any products in place yet, and both parties could still change their mind. If there was you can bet Apple will have wanted to say so.
 
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when a CEO, any CEO defends the company they work for, does it carry any weight at all? Even a teensy weensy bit? Of course not. They're the company's number one cheerleader and never would put things in a bad light.

For example, all we get is the usual T.C. "fantastic products in the pipeline" variant

Of course the Titanic is unsinkable! How do we know? Because WE built it sir!
 
This is why we have a free press.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
 
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There's news and fake news.

It is ALL a matter of faith, until someone provides EVIDENCE.

But then, that evidence could be fake too, so we get to believe nothing AND everything.

Welcome to our topsy-turvy world.

I believe the article, and if fake, it is a very plausible work of fiction that explains WTF has been going at Apple in the last few years that kept me from buying ANYTHING.

But in the end, the only thing that matters to me is results so let's see what happens at Apple now. The products shall do the talking.
 
It's interesting that Tim Cook has never gone through a public "fall from grace" the way Steve had in the 80s and 90s. Steve did a lot of personal growing during his absence from Apple, in ways that Cook has never had to.

Without saying anything of his management abilities, I believe Tim is a good man. But therein lies the danger, because I'm sure he believes he is a good man, too. And how many evils have been visited upon this world by men (or women) utterly convinced of their own moral rectitude?

o_O
 
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