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And right there is why fake news is a serious problem. People believe WAY too much from media sources that have proven to be liars over and over again.

The basis of the thought is that there has to be at least some truth there. NOT ALL... SOME!!!

Use discernment, and reach your own conclusion. Hasn't failed me yet. IMJS
 
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I often disagree with the WSJ, but it's usually responsible reporting. But this wasn't an example. What value other than being a gossip hit piece did it serve? The article was the business equivalent of something that would be reported on the Kardashians.

If WSJ is usually responsible and you often disagree with it, it would be rather irresponsible of us the rest of your post
 
I’d say if Apple really sees no truth and isn’t threatened by the WSJ article they’d let it blow over; there’d be no point wasting effort on it or drawing further attention to it.

But I think it touched on some things Mr Cook is evidently extremely sensitive about. Namely the composition and makeup of the board and the direction of Apple under Mr Cook’s leadership.

Apple is also extremely image conscious—any suggestion that they’ve reduced their focus on design is something they’ll actively counter, regardless of where the truth lies. It’s also probably a warning shot: don’t write negative stuff about us!
 
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I dont believe Tim Cook for a second here. Honestly...he seems like a great guy, but he is in no way, shape or form the next Steve Jobs and never will be. He just doesnt strike me as a person who has the passion for design and innovation steve had.

So i totally get why Johny would want to leave and seemed to not care any more with apple because his partner Steve is gone and there is no one worthy for him to bounce design and ideas off of. Tim is just not that guy.

What they need there is another Rebel, another Steve Jobs who cares more about changing the world then making a profit!

That’s crazy talk!
Ive got promoted to an EXTREME position of power under Tim.

Way, way, way beyond where he was under Steve & further than any design professional has ever gone in any company, since time immemorial.
Who is Microsoft’s Chief Design Officer, sitting at the absolutely most peak leadership position outside of CEO, & overseeing both all of their hardware AND all of their software design? Who holds that role at Samsung? Anywhere??!!
Exactly.
That position had literally never existed in a company until Tim created it for Jony.

We can speculate all we want about why he left, but I think “because Steve died, & 8 years later Jony still couldn’t find a single person to bounce design ideas off of, & to him it's either the CEO or nobody, when it comes to sharing design ideas- so he left” is beyond the pale when it comes to far-fetched theories.
 
It seems that many people who are irritated with Apple want new product announcements of iPhone caliber and impact every 30 seconds or so.

I'm insanely pissed at Apple for various reasons, but also feel the need to chill during this period of incremental changes in hardware, software and services.

If you think of Steve Jobs' final act being to set Apple up for the next 20 years, Apple's stewardship of the assets he left behind has been pretty conservative and relatively consistent all things considered.

Not to mention, we had more G4 Cubes when Steve was with us than we do now :)
 
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Of course he has to say that. Otherwise shareholders might lose faith. That could cost Apple billions in market cap overnight.

Not actually denying it is the most confirmation you're ever going to get.

However I think it's actually a good thing. Apple's design have been form over function for too long. In the PowerPC days they were a great balance of form and function (the puck mouse and some other stray products excluded of course).

Now, MacBooks are overly thin, so thin that the keyboards are horrible to type on. Ports get removed in this insane quest for more thinness that nobody ever asked for. Edges are left sharp because it looks nicer. Indicator lights get removed which leads to laptops getting RMAd simply because the user didn't realise the screen brightness was set to zero.

I think the G4 iMac was the pinnacle of Apple design. Functional (height adjustable) and insanely good looking. But at that time Ive wasn't calling the shots alone. Steve had a big say in it too.
 
Ultimately makes no difference. He’s moving on and Apple can inject some new life into their design team. I’m not expecting a drastic change and I actually think it could be a positive for the company.

Probably Jobs aside the single biggest factor as to why Apple are where they are. Silly to think it has no impact.

99.9999999 (repeating, of course) percent of Apple customers have no idea who Jony Ive is. I think Apple will do fine without him on the payroll.

Odd logic, a large amount of them will have never heard of Cook, Cue, Federighi etc either.
 
Considering that Timmy is well known as "Mr. What's a Computer", and given the current state of the Mac lineup, this article has a very strong ring of truth to it.

It was amazing how fast Apple pulled the What's a Computer campaign. I think Apple got whiplash for the speed of that course change.
 
If WSJ is usually responsible and you often disagree with it, it would be rather irresponsible of us the rest of your post
Although there is a word missing in your reply, the underlying point that I believe the original poster was making was that there is a difference between fact and truth. The wall Street journal's reporting tends to be responsible in the sense that they report facts for which there is sufficient evidence to corroborate. The original poster may very well disagree with the conclusions that the journalists derive from those facts.
a non-political case in point is the parsing that we are all performing on Tim Cook's rebuttal: we have the verbatim words in front of us and yet the conclusions that are derived range the gamut from denying the story to corroborating it...
The same situation can occur if you read newspapers in foreign languages, they respectable ones still give the same facts but can give a very different spin on the situation, hence it is quite possible to disagree with a newspapers point of view but still believe in the underlying information.
 
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The WSJ article is probably true. You can see it on Tim’s arrogant face! He didn’t deny it, he just kinda said it was like that, but wasn’t exactly like that.
 
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I dont believe Tim Cook for a second here. Honestly...he seems like a great guy, but he is in no way, shape or form the next Steve Jobs and never will be. He just doesnt strike me as a person who has the passion for design and innovation steve had.

So i totally get why Johny would want to leave and seemed to not care any more with apple because his partner Steve is gone and there is no one worthy for him to bounce design and ideas off of. Tim is just not that guy.

What they need there is another Rebel, another Steve Jobs who cares more about changing the world then making a profit!

I smell some damage control

The article was very unflattering towards Cook and Apple, so no wonder he’s come out self-promoting again.

That last sentence is the reason it’s hard to take anything else he says seriously: just corporate hyperbole and propaganda.

Sounds like damage control to me

...and apple's journey down the drain begins in the earnest. /wavesgoodbye

Cookie backtracking as usual.
As if anybody has any clue what the truth actually is. If this were a positive report, you’d be out there saying they were shilling for Apple. Yawn.
 
That’s Macrumours in a nutshell. Their loathing for Apple now is so great that they can’t resist the siren’s call of an Apple hit piece, even though it’s clearly fake news.

Not sure why you think it's so 'clearly' 'fake news'. Probably since you don't like the idea of anyone slighting your precious Apple? Maybe time to separate your ego from this multi-billion dollar company?
 
I might have believed Cook except he used the work "incredible". Every other time he has used this word it was NOT so "incredible". I have no reason to believe that he understands its meaning today any better than the last few keynotes.
 
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Probably Jobs aside the single biggest factor as to why Apple are where they are. Silly to think it has no impact.



Odd logic, a large amount of them will have never heard of Cook, Cue, Federighi etc either.

Im saying the reasoning behind it. That makes no difference and is something we’ll never know. He’s moving on, good for him.
 
Considering the double speak, jargon and hyperbole that so frequently comes out in Tim’s interviews or comments, this sounds like damage control.

I believe that Ive was frustrated with the board not representing the tech arm as much as in the past.

Interesting that the Journal pushes Apple’s buttons so hard (They finally apologized for the keyboard after Johanna Stern’s excellent article and rushed to put yet another band aid on the MBP keyboard), and now this. There’s a bit of truth to it; How much who can say? but I believe some of it.

Apple will still have Ive’s designs, but the in house design team will not have him.

Whatever...Apple has to fix their hardware and software pronto, no more bandaids for the prices they charge. And enough with the thin business already.
 
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Tim’s been talking about new products that will blow us away for years, and mostly we’ve seen incremental upgrades to existing products. Now that Jony is gone, maybe they’ll deliver on the hype.

They’ll never deliver on those products that are going to “blow you away” as long as Tim Cook is running Apple. After watching him run Apple the last few years Cook is much closer to a John Sculley as CEO then a Steve Jobs. He’s a bean counter. He has no passion for products and lacks vision. He doesn’t want to get tough on anyone and does not allow a competitive design environment. He is totally the anti-Steve Jobs. I don’t blame Ive for losing passion because his boss doesn’t have any vision.

Tim Cook wants everyone to think he fired Scott Forstall because he wouldn’t sign a letter apologizing for Apple Maps. Nope Cook fired Forstall because Forstall was a threat to his multi-million dollar job. Forstall was too much like a young Steve Jobs and that threatened Cook.
 
So... profit does not make company thrive...? Then, what is the purpose of the company. I thought all company was made to well... make money?

If a company is a seed and profits is the flower, innovation and wonder are the sun and water respectively. If you don’t have these two things the plant will shrivel and the flower will crumble to dust.
 
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