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Did you really read his work, or even his popular science books? He didn't claim he knows anything before Big Bang happened. In fact, he claimed that human has no way to know, and time and space as we know them are undefined before Big Bang since the laws of physics we know might not hold at singularity.

"Having not read someone else's work, makes wrong assumptions, and claims that person to be arrogant" is the epitome of arrogance (or stupidity).

Thank you. I couldn't have said it better!
 
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Did you really read his work, or even his popular science books? He didn't claim he knows anything before Big Bang happened. In fact, he claimed that human has no way to know, and time and space as we know them are undefined before Big Bang since the laws of physics we know might not hold at singularity.

"Having not read someone else's work, makes wrong assumptions, and claims that person to be arrogant" is the epitome of arrogance (or stupidity).

I think he was referring to something like this article
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...nows-what-happened-before-big-bang/398336002/
 
It truly is amazing what he has accomplished and overcome throughout his life. A true inspiration to many, and also to me personally. You will be deeply missed Stephen Hawking.

what has he accomplished? Not trying to troll i just know nothing of the man besides his name
 
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Did you really read his work, or even his popular science books? He didn't claim he knows anything before Big Bang happened. In fact, he claimed that human has no way to know, and time and space as we know them are undefined before Big Bang since the laws of physics we know might not hold at singularity.

"Having not read someone else's work, makes wrong assumptions, and claims that person to be arrogant" is the epitome of arrogance (or stupidity).

Nope. He just announced within the past few weeks that he had figured it out. Check it out.
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Yeah, sure! It is better to stay under the rock in the rocky mountains instead of trying to understand the university.
- from Cambridge, UK

Oh brother. I think you mean "universe." And am I supposed to be impressed that you live in Cambridge UK. Oh brother again.
 
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Nope. He just announced within the past few weeks that he had figured it out. Check it out.
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Oh brother. I think you mean "universe." And am I supposed to be impressed that you live in Cambridge UK. Oh brother again.

If you meant this one that MacDwag mentioned: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...nows-what-happened-before-big-bang/398336002/, I would recommend you to read closely. Despite the title, in the article Hawking is basically saying we know nothing since time starts there at Big Bang, so we cannot trace back before that. It's not Hawking's fault that people misunderstand the issue, it's how journalists write these misleading articles.
 
Despite the title, in the article Hawking is basically saying we know nothing since time starts there at Big Bang, so we cannot trace back before that. It's not Hawking's fault that people misunderstand the issue, it's how journalists write these misleading articles.

Agreed, most the titles are written so that people will click on them.

There was no time before the Big Bang since that’s when time and the universe started, Hawking said that himself and caused a bit of controversy with religious people, he explained that if there was no time before the Big Bang then there was no time or anything for a so called creator to have made the universe.

“We are each free to believe what we want, and it’s my view that the simplest explanation is; there is no god. No one created our universe, and no one directs our fate.”

A Brilliant man who added so much to our knowledge of the universe.
 
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Agreed, most the titles are written so that people will click on them.

There was no time before the Big Bang since that’s when time and the universe started, Hawking said that himself and caused a bit of controversy with religious people, he explained that if there was no time before the Big Bang then there was no time or anything for a so called creator to have made the universe.

“We are each free to believe what we want, and it’s my view that the simplest explanation is; there is no god. No one created our universe, and no one directs our fate.”

A Brilliant man who added so much to our knowledge of the universe.

Agreed. Besides his contributions to singularity and black hole radiation theories, he has been such an inspiration for so many people to fight against their disabling diseases, and has been sparkling interest in physics with the books he published. Of course a lot of things he said (or the bets he made) have been wrong and he corrected himself multiple times, but that doesn't diminish what he accomplished.
 
If you meant this one that MacDwag mentioned: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...nows-what-happened-before-big-bang/398336002/, I would recommend you to read closely. Despite the title, in the article Hawking is basically saying we know nothing since time starts there at Big Bang, so we cannot trace back before that. It's not Hawking's fault that people misunderstand the issue, it's how journalists write these misleading articles.

Yes, I know. He says "nothing" was around. That is exactly what I'm talking about. Absolutely no way he can know that. And the big bang... where did the matter come from? Never answered that sufficiently. He also said we have 100 years left on this Earth (99 years as of 2018). We'll see about that. It's so easy to claim these things under a shroud of mathematical jargon and the appearance of genius, especially when there is no way to prove the theory.
 
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Perhaps, but it is my opinion. Hawking actually KNOWS what happened prior to this universe coming into being? That to me is the epitome of arrogance (or stupidity).

Obviously you've never read his work. He never claimed to know for certain. It was all speculation based on other science. He as well as anyone in the field knows there is no certain.
 
Obviously you've never read his work. He never claimed to know for certain. It was all speculation based on other science. He as well as anyone in the field knows there is no certain.

Glad to hear you say it is speculation. Lots of people take his (And others') writings as complete truth, so I respect that.

My last word on this (you're welcome) is that I do appreciate that Hawking persevered where most of us would have given up. He was down to one word per minute toward the end, but he still moved forward and worked hard on that one word. That, to me, is where the inspiration is.
 
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Hawking was a bozo. The sheer arrogance of the man for being so arrogant. So-called "geniuses" such as Melville or Feynman or even the late Steven P. Jobs were also arrogant, therefore it is morally imperative to downplay these men for their accomplishments, instead of understanding them as individuals with human flaws. Oh, the pretension of these "scientists" to believe they are somehow closer to "reality" because they use a process of observation to achieve some objective understanding. Hogwash, I say. Hog. Wash. We Philosophers have no need for such blandishments like "science," whose enterprise is seemingly always in flux as theories, which are hypothesis supported by evidence, are discarded or revised as new data is collected. But Philosophy? We can explain why a flower is beautiful. That happiness is possible just as long as you believe in yourself!

But, yes, it is entirely reasonable to discredit Mr. Hawking's life's work because he was so arrogant to have opinions. He was, after all, a physicist. And physicists are so arrogant as to say ghosts are not possible because of the dynamics of atoms and such things. No matter how well-supported opinions might be. It's the arrogance that should be considered. Just as it's morally imperative to discredit all of Melville's work because he was, in fact, a racist. I often like to stand before a room and denounce Melville and Darwin for their racism, not their work, and wait with great anticipation for the adulation I so strongly desire.
 
Importance is relative. I personally find Hawking's writings to be indulgent and arrogant.
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Wow, nice comeback. Seriously, you are correct.

I also find his non science writings/ideas to be completely off the mark. But in the end he was a remarkable person, with a remarkable science intellect, and he deserves some respect. The world is less interesting without him.

We all should ignore some of the stupid things in people when they have other remarkable attributes. After all, America was founded on the idea of tolerance, even if it was not or has not been completely embraced by some people.
 
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I kinda doubt Tim knew much about Stephen's writings. Just trying to sound cool.
Stephen wasn’t much of an Apple adept - or even user.
Unless Cook had personal relations with him or his family, which I doubt, this very much smells like in-memoriam opportunism
 
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what has he accomplished? Not trying to troll i just know nothing of the man besides his name

He made a number of breakthroughs in a few different, yet related, fields of science. Many are centered around black holes.
1. He showed that the Universe began at a singularity, which is the same as a black hole.
2. He showed that black holes can evaporate. While this doesn't seem like much, it was the first time someone had merged relativity with quantum mechanics which had never been done before (and is a step towards the holy grail of physics, which is fully merging the two theories). This really showed his intelligence to be above your average genius.
3. He showed information can escape from a black hole. Again, doesn't sound like much but I see this as the first small step towards greater things in the distant future.
4. I think he contributed to the understanding of the early inflationary Universe, but I'm not entirely sure. If he did, then again, another big leap in our understanding of cosmology.

Alex
 
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