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The problem with saying code is a universal language is that it isn’t. Not only are there dozens and dozens of code languages, many are also internationalized into native languages. Logic and math are more universal. :)
 
Not exactly. iPhone 6...X are the evolution of Steve's legacy.
With so many analogies/adoption with/from the competition - they are hardly innovations, let alone new product categories, let alone revolutionary or disruptive
AppleWatch/AirPods however are a new and different appliances (revolutionary resp. disruptive)
Measured by turnover, Apple is still mostly a Steve company and Tim merely milked than transformed it.
Disagree. Iphone 6 pretty much stole the show in terms of revenue, not anything Steve would release. Therefore it's a Tim product. All of apples products are very popular, but disruptive? Hardly.

Tim, can and should carry on the legacy. That's what you call milk. Each of us has different opinions. Go figure.
 
Maybe until one of Tim's original projects overtakes the iPhone in revenue.

That may happen sooner than you think. If the iPhone falls below one of Timmy's little hobby projects, technically the condition is met too.

The way Timmy is abusing iPhone customers these days, it's only a matter of time until the iPhone tower collapses. It wasn't really all that long about that most people though Blackberry would dominate the market forever. Timmy can only coast and screw the customer for so long.
 
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If english is not your native language, you have to learn english first and then learn how to code if you want to succeed.
Maybe english speaking people don't realize this but code is all english, most documentations are english-only (at least when not from a big company), StackOverflow is english-only and so on.
I know many french people having trouble with some technologies because there's no docs translations available, take iOS and Swift docs for instance.
 
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That may happen sooner than you think. If the iPhone falls below one of Timmy's little hobby projects, technically the condition is met too.

The way Timmy is abusing iPhone customers these days, it's only a matter of time until the iPhone tower collapses. It wasn't really all that long about that most people though Blackberry would dominate the market forever. Timmy can only coast and screw the customer for so long.
You mean like Enron? Or apple could just go on innovating till 1 trillion. Which will be more likely?
 
I don't understand how TC can "put some boundaries" on his nephew.

Doesn't the kid have parents? Is TC the kid's legal guardian or something?

This all sounds like a bunch of PR crap.
 
Was with him until he made the ridiculous statement that coding allows you to communicate with 7 billion people. Yes, because everyone everywhere is a coder? Come on.
 
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Disagree. Iphone 6 pretty much stole the show in terms of revenue, not anything Steve would release. Therefore it's a Tim product. All of apples products are very popular, but disruptive? Hardly.

Tim, can and should carry on the legacy. That's what you call milk. Each of us has different opinions. Go figure.
Ahh..then explain where the legacy did get transferred between iPhone 5 and 6 (...)
 
I use to own Apple Stock for the better part of a decade. However, I sold it several months ago because of the direction the company is going.

When Steve was around, I would come to this site at least 3 to 5 times a day to see what new technology or idea that Apple had up its sleeve. Then I started to notice that the "new" idea was simply slapping a new coat of paint on an old device, tweaking the specs, and selling it at a slightly higher price.

You can look in the eyes of every single one of Apple's senior execs except for Craig Federighi and tell that they're bored out of their minds. Tim Cook should've been a transitional CEO only. He's simply not the visionary that this company needs. Yeah, he's done great for the bottom line. But in the long run, he's destroyed its soul.

From my point of view, Apple has essentially turned into a beautiful corpse. We were sitting around the office the other day and started to figure out when Apple will finally say that they're not going to make any more personal computers? When will they become purely a cell phone and services company? Why do they seem to be so unfocused?

So seeing stories like this just reminds me of why I sold my Apple stock and why I'll be transitioning out of the ecosystem as much as possible. I've noticed that Amazon seems to be doing some really interesting things of late. Google's productivity choices seem to adequate enough for daily use.
 
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Good to tout overuse of tech when have nothing new to offer. Under Mr Cooks reign, apple have not introduced one actual new piece of kit. Other than me-too products of course.
 
This is where actual value is created (IMO). Everything else is just on top.

Unfortunately, is not. Physical and intangible commodities have no value unless they can be collected, processed, delivered, and someone pays for it. Just take a look at all that happens around a market like food processing, and you'll start to see how and why economical indicators fluctuate and food prices vary dramatically from country to country. In Mexico, a watermelon costs less than USD$2.00. In Japan, they are so expensive that they are considered gifts in the range of a Lancome perfume. A farmer's tomatoes have no value if no one gets them at their local markets to pay for them. Apple products are extremely expensive in Mexico when compared to USA prices. Many cars in Mexico are cheaper than the same vehicle sold in the USA when you convert currencies from one market to the other, but earning that money to pay for a car is harder than in the USA...

You set a pretty good example with your hard drive task. The drive by itself for a data site is probably US$150, give or take. Your payment for a hard drive replacement probably is around the 7 bucks (direct time impact taking into account knowledge, skills, etc.) If you look at it from a mere math point of view, a hard drive change costs a company US$157.00. But the information in it could be worth thousands of dollars in the context of said company. Definitely a hard drive for one of Bank of America's data sites is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars (even with redundant backups on different geographical locations) due to the info it contains. Why? Because it's part of a larger process that gives them a completely different value from its actual cost.
 
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I don't have to explain it. You can show where it didn't get transferred and we can take it from there.
I just want to check what thread this is. Is it "the Steve Jobs turnover thread"?
Well, this is a thread about guy spending his career trying to multiply Jobs' invention into the hands of every inhabitant on the globe, and now fwiw suddenly claiming it shouldn't be overused.
And somewhere along that line it became his legacy ... we don't know when or where .. but let's praise you for that assertion ... which is such an exclusive that hardly anyone can follow it...and why would we...
 
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Well, this is a thread about guy spending his career trying to multiply Jobs' invention into the hands of every inhabitant on the globe, and now fwiw suddenly claiming it shouldn't be overused.
And somewhere along that line it became his legacy ... we don't know when or where .. but let's praise you for that assertion ... which is such an exclusive that hardly anyone can follow it...and why would we...
This is a thread about a guy who was recommended by Steve Jobs to take the company over when Jobs' was unable to perform CEO duties. Sometime in 2011 Apple became Tim Cooks' company and it became his job to ensure the success of Apple going forward.

His first invention, the 5s was probably in the pipeline with Jobs, but it showed how a fingerprint reader and 64 bits can be architected into a small package and be a gamechanger. His next invention the iphone 6, blew the doors off of Apple's revenue, something Jobs probably wouldn't have released. Along the way Tim also introduced other products into the mix, again probably things that Jobs wouldn't have released.

As far as Tim's view in the interview, it is possible to run a technology company and have a belief that technology shouldn't be overused. Companies that produce alchoholic products are famous for that. Companies that offer gambling/betting services are famous for that. Car companies that show their vehicles used in a racetrack also promulgate safe driving and emphasis “professional drivers” on a “closed course”. There are enough real life examples of how products can be misused or overused.

Kudos to you for telling it like it is.
 
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You mean like Enron? Or apple could just go on innovating till 1 trillion. Which will be more likely?

It's much more likely we'll see Apple break through $100 Billion before $1 Trillion. I think Q4 was a disaster for them and their 2018 guidance will be very low. I think iPhone X sales are going to be about 20 million units lower than expected and iPhone 8 didn't fill the gap.

And I put my money where my mouth is. I bought a lot of $175 Put contracts for February that I'm going to hold through earnings. I will be very surprised if I don't make the value of an iMac Pro or two on Feb 1st.

And why is your only alternative Enron? Their management stole all the money and faked the books. Nobody is saying that is going on at Apple.
 
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It's much more likely we'll see Apple break through $100 Billion before $1 Trillion. I think Q4 was a disaster for them and their 2018 guidance will be very low. I think iPhone X sales are going to be about 20 million units lower than expected and iPhone 8 didn't fill the gap.

And I put my money where my mouth is. I bought a lot of $175 Put contracts for February that I'm going to hold through earnings. I will be very surprised if I don't make the value of an iMac Pro or two on Feb 1st.

And why is your only alternative Enron? Their management stole all the money and faked the books. Nobody is saying that is going on at Apple.
Your "money where your mouth" is has little to do what may happen in the future, but good luck with that gamble.

Market cap is north of 900B, so we'll see where it goes. I hope you have a nice mattress at the bottom of that cliff you are on.

As far as Enron, it was an example of a "bad" company, and not the only one. Apple doesn't compare to any of the companies in that type of category.

Wonder what any of this has to do with topic at hand though.
 
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