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Engaging with this administration is one thing. But Tim is handing out gold bars and presents to our toddler president. It’s embarrassing and I can’t wait until Apple replaces him. We have literally lost our democracy and he’s handing out gifts to the autocrat. He’s not engaging he’s complicit.
“Literally lost our democracy”?

I wouldn’t say that. Yes, Trump (imho) is abusing his constitutional powers, but Congress has been behaving like school yard children, and if Congress actually would act like adults and not some day time drama, then maybe things wouldn’t be so bad.
 
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Does Esquire not have fact-checkers or editors? The article says the Neo comes in five colors (there are only four) and that the Apple //e had a friendly trash can in the corner of the screen (it didn't have a GUI).
 
Like it or not over half the country voted for Trump.
Umm, no.

The FEC is, I hope, fairly reputable [1].

Harris: 75017613 votes, or 48.32%.
Trump: 77302580 votes, or 49.8%.

That's a total of 152320193 votes for the two main candidates. The total turnout was 64.3% [2], so to say that 50% of people voted for President Trump is wrong. The total of eligible voters who didn't vote is greater (roughly 87 million!) than either total for Kamala Harris or Donald Trump.

[1] https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/2024presgeresults.pdf
[2] https://election.lab.ufl.edu/2024-general-election-turnout/
 
I’m glad I don’t have Tim Cook’s level of responsibility. I’d want to tell the Orange buffoon where to go, but then I’d find that my company was getting cut down and broken up by the government, sending thousands of people to unemployment. How do you balance that responsibility?
Drugs and alcohol.
 
Cook responded by saying that "Heir Hitlers NSDAP party is very accessible."

"So you can talk with them about your point of view on things," said Cook. "They may not agree, but you can engage. You can be heard. You may not, in the end, be able to convince. But engagement for me, not just in Germany but around the world, is so important because it is very complex, working through local laws, local customs, local culture, local regulations. Every country is its own story. Everybody's looks at things differently."

"The only way you get a feel for that is to sit before someone and communicate and engage," he added. "If you went in my conference room, you would see the George Washington quote 'If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.' I've never believed that just yelling from the sideline about plus or minus was a good strategy. Your voice just goes into the wind."

Cook went on to say that it is important to have "values that are consistent," and he assured that Apple's values and his own have not changed.

He emphasized Apple's focus on user privacy, the environment, accessibility, and education.

"So you'll see me everywhere, and you'll wonder 'oh, he's meeting with somebody that has a different view than him,'" Cook concluded. "I think that's good. I think it's good. I think a problem in the world right now is that it's so polarized and different views aren't shared or discussed. They just become hardened. And I don't think that's good."

In an interview last month, Cook said he is "not a political person."

"I interact on policy, not politics," he said.
 
In an interview last month, Cook said he is "not a political person."
"I interact on policy, not politics," he said.


Uh huh..
Sure buddy

No politics ... just policy...

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This is essentially the same as bringing a bottle of wine to someone’s house when you visit. Trump likes tacky gold things and says he wants things made in America, Tim brought him a tacky gold thing that he made in America.

I see nothing wrong with this gesture.
 
I am not a fan of this president, but I get Tim Cook on this. I don't have a problem with his pragmatic approach. He has a company to run and shareholders to whom he must answer.
in a lot of ways, Tim's approach makes sense. Apple has staked out positions. While they've done damage over the years getting here, they are pushing using recycled aluminum, more recycled components, improving packaging waste, improving working conditions, profitability, and a fiduciary responsibility to shareholders. They view their role as pro-humanity, and that means making good products but also taking occasional policy positions. Sometimes those appear to be more liberal-aligned. But that's policy-driven, not politics driven.
 
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Donald Trump is a war criminal, and has comitted numerous war crimes since his first term. But Tim Cook has been meeting and cozying up to war criminals even before Trump became president. For example, in 2014, Cook met Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at Apple's world headquarters in Cupertino. Netanyahu had been committing numerous war crimes for decades before that meeting. And it was Netanyahu who convinced the U.S. to start the illegal Iraq War in 2003 by totally lying to U.S. politicians that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Netanyahu told the exact same lie about Iran, and so the U.S. started an illegal war in Iran last year and started another illegal war in Iran this year that is currently ongoing. Cook doesn't care about any of that because all Cook cares about is money. See the OP in the link below:
 
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And by "offenses", you mean rape. Don't try and minimize what he's done.
An offense is an offense. Doesn’t matter how big or small. Stealing a candy bar, walking across the train tracks in a non crossing zone, etc. If it violates the law, it is an OFFENSE.

I have no first hand experience with what he has or has not done. I don’t hang out with the man.

Though, I was raised to understand, that rapist and murders are going to spend a long long time in place they aren’t going like.
Yeah it sucks that human justice is slow. I feel sorry for the people who have had their lives ruined by egotistical narcissists (etc). I do not have the authority to convict him. That’s on our legal system.

P.S. Governments like the USA are not run on a moral system, but an ethics system.


Sadly, the people in power tend to decide what is ethically right and wrong. If you have proof of the man’s crimes, turn them into the justice system.
 
Donald Trump is a war criminal, and has comitted numerous war crimes since his first term. But Tim Cook has been meeting and cozying up to war criminals even before Trump became president. For example, in 2014, Cook met Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at Apple's world headquarters in Cupertino. Netanyahu had been numerous committing war crimes for nearly two decades before that meeting. And it was Netanyahu who convinced the U.S. to start the illegal Iraq War in 2003 by totally lying to U.S. politicians that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Netanyahu told the exact same lie about Iran, and so the U.S. started an illegal war in Iran last year and started another illegal war in Iran this year that is currently ongoing. Cook doesn't care about any of that because all Cook cares about is money. See the thread in the link below:

Fun fact, Ford motor company was selling ball bearings to Nazi Germany, that enabled their war machine to murder millions.

Sure Tim Cook cares about money. Money is what drives business. The business that he was put in charge of that employees thousand of people, hundreds of thousands if you count the contract works, who… (drum roll please) depend on Apple making money so they can get paid.

Your statement sounds like something the UN should be addressing, not a business CEO. Oh wait, the UN has been worthless for nearly all of its existence, more so recently as political corruption has set in so much.
 
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History is not going to reflect well on these tech leaders kissing the ring, there was no reason Cook had to personally donate $1 million to his campaign. The rest of the world is tired of America and Trumps sycophants.
Winners write the history books so I doubt anyone will pay for all this evil.
 


Apple's CEO Tim Cook has maintained a working relationship with U.S. President Donald Trump, and he touched on that in a recent interview.

Tim-Cook-and-Donald-Trump.jpg

Cook sat down with Esquire's Ryan D'Agostino to discuss Apple's 50th anniversary, but he was also asked about how he navigates the Trump administration.

Cook responded by saying that "the Trump administration is very accessible."

"So you can talk with them about your point of view on things," said Cook. "They may not agree, but you can engage. You can be heard. You may not, in the end, be able to convince. But engagement for me, not just in the U.S. but around the world, is so important because it is very complex, working through local laws, local customs, local culture, local regulations. Every country is its own story. Everybody's looks at things differently."

"The only way you get a feel for that is to sit before someone and communicate and engage," he added. "If you went in my conference room, you would see the Teddy Roosevelt quote 'It is not the critic who counts.' I've never believed that just yelling from the sideline about plus or minus was a good strategy. Your voice just goes into the wind."

Cook went on to say that it is important to have "values that are consistent," and he assured that Apple's values and his own have not changed.

He emphasized Apple's focus on user privacy, the environment, accessibility, and education.

"So you'll see me everywhere, and you'll wonder 'oh, he's meeting with somebody that has a different view than him,'" Cook concluded. "I think that's good. I think it's good. I think a problem in the world right now is that it's so polarized and different views aren't shared or discussed. They just become hardened. And I don't think that's good."

In an interview last month, Cook said he is "not a political person."

"I interact on policy, not politics," he said.

Note: Due to the political or social nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Political News forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook Explains His Relationship With Trump
Timmy grovels and sucks. Everyone says, "Well yeah, the shareholders". Dystopian late capitalism in its most atriculated expression. Capitalism sucks, it's in its death throes The billionaires are buying up everything, including you. Wake up.
 
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Very well reasoned. It's important to be diplomatic and remain engaged. Cook has saved Apple billions because of this. Whatever you may think of his legacy on the technology front, he's been steadfast about keeping Apple competitive.
 
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Apple's CEO Tim Cook has maintained a working relationship with U.S. President Donald Trump, and he touched on that in a recent interview.

Tim-Cook-and-Donald-Trump.jpg

Cook sat down with Esquire's Ryan D'Agostino to discuss Apple's 50th anniversary, but he was also asked about how he navigates the Trump administration.

Cook responded by saying that "the Trump administration is very accessible."

"So you can talk with them about your point of view on things," said Cook. "They may not agree, but you can engage. You can be heard. You may not, in the end, be able to convince. But engagement for me, not just in the U.S. but around the world, is so important because it is very complex, working through local laws, local customs, local culture, local regulations. Every country is its own story. Everybody's looks at things differently."

"The only way you get a feel for that is to sit before someone and communicate and engage," he added. "If you went in my conference room, you would see the Teddy Roosevelt quote 'It is not the critic who counts.' I've never believed that just yelling from the sideline about plus or minus was a good strategy. Your voice just goes into the wind."

Cook went on to say that it is important to have "values that are consistent," and he assured that Apple's values and his own have not changed.

He emphasized Apple's focus on user privacy, the environment, accessibility, and education.

"So you'll see me everywhere, and you'll wonder 'oh, he's meeting with somebody that has a different view than him,'" Cook concluded. "I think that's good. I think it's good. I think a problem in the world right now is that it's so polarized and different views aren't shared or discussed. They just become hardened. And I don't think that's good."

In an interview last month, Cook said he is "not a political person."

"I interact on policy, not politics," he said.

Note: Due to the political or social nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Political News forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook Explains His Relationship With Trump
That’s all well and good, until “engaging” with an administration and agreeing to their biases towards other parts of the world ends up biting your corporation in the ass.

To be fair, Cook isn’t Musk, thankfully, but many many parts of the international markets and international community no longer see American tech companies as “good actors”, and a large part of that is coming from them being so happy to jump into bed with the current WH administration and it’s global outlook.

When your corporation has been explicitly named as a valid target for military / paramilitary actions, then it might be time to question your current “political engagement” strategy.

Given current events, the content of this interview has the sound of a CEO furiously back-pedalling, as global and even domestic sentiment might be shifting in the opposite direction than intended.

The thing about sitting on the fence is that you have to sit on the fence, you can’t just jump down on one side for a while when it suits you, and then climb back up, and hope no one notices.

Flip-flopping doesn’t go unnoticed forever, just as pretending your farts don’t smell doesn’t stop them from smelling like farts.
 
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