Okay? That's less that 16% of Americans. That supports my point.
The stock market has been at record highs under almost all modern presidents with Clinton and Obama having the best annualized returns.
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The stock market has been at record highs under almost all modern presidents with Clinton and Obama having the best annualized returns.
Yes but it feels like there’s little else he can do other than to do these stunts to show off what they’re doing with US manufacturing so they can keep the tariff exceptions on electronics.
I'm not talking about other president's though, don't deflect. The post I responded to said to name one good thing that has come from the most recent Trump administration. And, 16%+ of working American's benefitting from the stock market being at all time highs is a good thing. There is no way to spin this otherwise. Feel free to try, but I won't be reading it.
I think the thing most aren’t seeing is that it isn’t left v. right, D v. R: it’s the 1% against us, the 99%, and they distract us and cause us to argue and combat each other, especially online where no real change is made, while they rob us blind and steal our children’s future, pollute the Earth and the minds of the People, and suppress real progress and health while they and their cronies blatantly lie to our faces and show off their crimes and wealth and hypocrisy.
You are leaving out voters that didn't vote for EITHER. My statement is factually correct.
| Democratic | Kamala Harris | Tim Walz | 226 | 42% | 75,019,230 | 48.34% | |
| Republican |
| Donald J. Trump | J.D. Vance | 312 | 58% | 77,303,568 | 49.81% |
| Various | Others | 0 | 0 % | | 2,878,359 | 1.85% |
So Harris and VARIOUS received 77,897,589 and Trump received 77,303,568. So again, in the real world where ALL results are included, more people voted for other people than for trump.
It's not a deflection to point out that record highs are common among modern presidents.
No. You were asked to "Name one positive thing, that has affected people's (who aren't rich) lives, that he has done." You simply cited a fact common to all modern presidents. And ignored the two parts in bold.
It's certainly good for the rich people that benefit. But the question was about benefits to the people that aren't rich. Again, the share of 90% of people in this country is shrinking.
It's not sustainable for a larger and larger percentage of American wealth to be concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer people. That's how we lose the republic. At this point, financially, most Americans are worse off as a direct result of this administration's policies.
"No. You were asked to "Name one positive thing, that has affected people's (who aren't rich) lives, that he has done." You simply cited a fact common to all modern presidents. And ignored the two parts in bold."
It is a fact common to all modern presidents and Trump happens to be one of them, and the record highs are happening under his presidency. The vast majority of the 56 million or so people who are benefiting from the stock market being at all time highs through their 401k are not rich people, they are every day working Americans. Again, this is a good thing, or a "positive" thing, if you'd prefer to use the word used in the OP. I rest my case. We're done here, or I'm done anyway. Have an excellent day!
To go where ? Apple is still one of the "least" terrible of all these tech companies. Remember the pictures at Trump's inauguration ? where all the big tech CEO were almost fighting to be in the front, they're all there , Zuckerberg ( Facebook), Bezos, Musk , Nadella ( Microsoft CEO), Pichai ( Google ), etc..
There is only one person missing in the picture : Cook.
He was there because he had to, along with Obama, Clinton, etc.. But he seemed to do everything to stay as much in the back as possible. Facebook and Google are openly absolute fans of Trump, gladly obeyed when he ordered them to remove DEI programs. Apple refused politely and diplomatically.
It's obvious Cook despises Trump, but he isn't going to risk running Apple into the ground to look heroic. So yeah , he is bootllicking like all the rest of them, but the difference is that most of the others aren't really bootlicking, they are sincere in their admiration of Trump.
There's cope and then there's whatever this is. This is absolutely ridiculous and I wish you well because no one is going to take you seriously ever again.You are leaving out voters that didn't vote for EITHER. My statement is factually correct.
Democratic Kamala Harris Tim Walz Republican Donald J. Trump J.D. Vance Various Others 1.85%
So Harris and VARIOUS received 77,897,589 and Trump received 77,303,568. So again, in the real world where ALL results are included, more people voted for other people than for trump.
Well, Communist, to be precise.
And Trump was found guilty by regular citizens including Republicans, not some fake witch hunt by Dems like MAGAs claim. And [unlike you and me] Trump was defended by the priciest attorneys that other people's money could buy for him. $Thousands per hour.
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Unfortunately Trump has done his best to support Putin, undermine Ukraine and denigrate NATO. DJT is a long-term international disaster for western values and for the strength of the USA.
Umm, the point was that stock market highs are coincidental to the Trump administration. They did not "come from the most recent Trump administration."
Yup. Trump was charged with falsifying business records, which is a misdemeanor charge. It was elevated to a felony under the pretense that it was done "with intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof."
The "other crime" was not named but argued that it was a violation of a federal campaign finance law, specifically that he was trying to illegally influence the 2016 election by hiding hush money payments.
So they used a federal crime to upgrade a state crime, which was completely ridiculous when no federal crime was ever charged. It wasn't even clear that the state prosecutor had the jurisdiction to enforce federal law.
The jury didn't also have to agree on what the crime was that was being concealed, just that some crime was.
If his name wasn't Donald Trump, it never would have been upgraded to a ridiculous felony charge, to which he was only convicted of because it took place in Manhattan where almost 90% of the people vote Democrat. The entire ordeal was a media show and was done purely by the Democratic party to try and kill his chances of getting re-elected.
And again, if you walked around and asked 1000 Democrats if Trump was a convicted Felon, 99% of them would say YES ABSOLUTELY with having zero knowledge of what the crime even was or an understanding of why it was completely ridiculous.
The stock market has been on a generally upward trend for decades. "Record highs" is like saying "this is the best iPhone ever". It hits record highs under most presidents.The Dow, S&P, and Nasdaq have been at record highs, there's one thing for you. My 401k is doing really well as is the rest of my portfolio. I didn't vote for Trump or Harris by the way, but I did vote. I wrote myself and a friend of mine in for President and VP
Do you think those markets wouldn't have hit record highs if Harris had been elected?
He's personally rich enough, and his company has enough power, to build a coalition of businesses who could tell 47 to screw off.
Yet he chose to fawn.
It kills me to think that you honestly believe that most regular, everyday Americans have enough money to invest in and gain from the stock market.
You well off people seem to live in a world entirely your own, all while claiming you're not rich.
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Opinion. As you pointed out no federal crime was required to be charged. And a state prosecutor couldn't charge it anyway.
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Opinion and made up numbers.
Basically, your argument is that since he's a famous politician, he shouldn't have been charged. Because, as you describe, he certainly met the legal threshold and was convicted by a jury.
Hahaha way to cherry pic certain points. None of it is opinion, it’s all fact. 87% of registered voters in Manhattan are Democrat btw.
And no, what I’m arguing is that because he was Donald Trump and running for President the Democratic Party trumped up a misdemeanor charge purely to try and tarnish his campaign. If he wasn’t running for President it would have been a misdemeanor charge because that’s all it was.
Don’t think most folks here understand this. And if they do, it would make little difference to them.
Whether the charges are "ridiculous" is your opinion. The fact that he was convicted would support the fact that jury considered them reasonable.
Yep. And 100% of the jurors found him guilty.
That's certainly how you'd put it, but that's a conspiracy theory, not a fact.
No, as you clearly said, it's a felony if the fraud was in furtherance of a crime. And the jury determined that it was.