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And no, what I’m arguing is that because he was Donald Trump and running for President the Democratic Party trumped up a misdemeanor charge purely to try and tarnish his campaign. If he wasn’t running for President it would have been a misdemeanor charge because that’s all it was.
And a few other cases were dropped or postponed just because he won the election, so running for president actually helped him in those cases.
 
And a few other cases were dropped or postponed just because he won the election, so running for president actually helped him in those cases.

Lol what does that have to do with anything? The charges were levied against him strictly to try and smear his campaign. He can’t help it that he won the election.
 
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So you would have chosen to ran Apple and all its employees into the ground ? That’s very brave of you. I believe you 100%
Interesting … you seem to imply that Trump has that power? Really? To run one of the most prosperous companies in the world into the ground? If so, wow!! I’d say Tim Cook is not anything like a poor immigrant who could be disposed of easily by the orange man and his ICE breakers. TC would have the power to stand up!
 
What should they have done instead?

Maybe prosecute him after he left office in 2020. But you're right, it was just a cooincidence that they happened to wait until right before the election to take him to trial. Total coincidence.
 
Whether the charges are "ridiculous" is your opinion. The fact that he was convicted would support the fact that jury considered them reasonable.


Yep. And 100% of the jurors found him guilty.


That's certainly how you'd put it, but that's a conspiracy theory, not a fact.


No, as you clearly said, it's a felony if the fraud was in furtherance of a crime. And the jury determined that it was.

1. Right, a likely all democrat jury found him guilty, total shocker.

2. Yeah, again no shock.

3. Yeah just like Hunter Biden's laptop and Joe Biden's mental decline was a conspiracy theory.

4. Furthermore of what crime? That's the whole point. No other crime was claimed but they moved it to a felony because they said he committed a federal crime, which was not named, and which he was never charged federally for because it didn't exist.
 
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That gold base is tacky, but it perfectly matches Trump's tacky tastes in interior design, exterior design, and other types of design.

As for Trump's penis, its size is not important, but what is important is never forgetting that he allegedly inserted it into underaged girls that were sex-trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein.

Epstein is alleged to have worked for Mossad, and if true, Israel likely has evidence of Trump's having sex with underaged sex-trafficked girls, and is using that as leverage to get Trump to continue giving money and weapons to Israel so that it can continue committing genocide in Gaza.

I don't ever want to hear Apple SJW-CEO Tim Cook talk about human rights again. Before Trump was president, Cook often virtue signaled support for feminism. And now Cook supports Trump, who is a rapist, partaker in sex with underaged sex-trafficked girls, and worst of all, genocide supporter. Genocide is the worst human rights crime possible.

Oh my god, talk about conspiracy thoeries. If any of what you said was true, why were none of these charges brought against Trump the last four years when Biden was in office? They did everything humanly possible they could do to try and keep him from running again and you don't think they would have released that information? Can't wait to hear the mental gymnastics you sling for this answer.
 
Why weren’t they levied against him for breaking the law?

What should they have done instead?

There is literally no point in continuing the discussion, there is constant deflection and whataboutism, and the goalposts continue to shift but even if they ended up against the bleacher walls, there'd just be unlimited contorting around the goalpost itself to avoid actually having an honest conversation.

It's bad faith and immature discussion at its finest.
 
There is literally no point in continuing the discussion, there is constant deflection and whataboutism, and the goalposts continue to shift but even if they ended up against the bleacher walls, there'd just be unlimited contorting around the goalpost itself to avoid actually having an honest conversation.

It's bad faith and immature discussion at its finest.

Riiiiight. I've not moved the goal post one time but sure, time to move on Lol.
 
1. Right, a likely all democrat jury found him guilty, total shocker.
If your assumption is that Democrats will find him guilty no matter the evidence, is it also your assumption that Republicans will always find him innocent? How can any trial against Trump be fair? I realize that not everybody is a Republican or Democrat, but there aren't many people in the US that don't have an opinion about Trump.

If you think it's unfair, then tell us how it could be fair (without bringing up other presidents).
 
If your assumption is that Democrats will find him guilty no matter the evidence, is it also your assumption that Republicans will always find him innocent? How can any trial against Trump be fair? I realize that not everybody is a Republican or Democrat, but there aren't many people in the US that don't have an opinion about Trump.

If you think it's unfair, then tell us how it could be fair (without bringing up other presidents).

It likely couldn't be. But I don't think its a stretch to say that a democratic jury was going to find him guilty no matter what. The entire point for me is that yes he was found guilty, but what he was found guilty of was a misdemeanor that was brought up to a felony that made absolutely zero sense.

In the end it ended up benefitting Trump. There were independents who saw what the Democratic party was doing and it brought him in votes that he probably wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
 
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Yes but it feels like there’s little else he can do other than to do these stunts to show off what they’re doing with US manufacturing so they can keep the tariff exceptions on electronics.

He could refuse. He could resign and make a moral and ethical stance against the regime.

At 64 years old he could live out the remainder of his life in peace and privacy with his billions in the bank and relatively little blood and dirt to his legacy.
 
relatively little blood and dirt to his legacy.

Lol surely you don't believe that. I mean if you want to ignore the sweatshops that build iPhones and abhorrent working conditions that the people deal with then sure, his hands are clean.
 
This is wonderful. I love reading all the people’s comments that hate America. Buckle up buttercups because the movie is starting to get good.

I can’t wait until barry gets perp walked 🤭
 
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There is literally no point in continuing the discussion, there is constant deflection and whataboutism, and the goalposts continue to shift but even if they ended up against the bleacher walls, there'd just be unlimited contorting around the goalpost itself to avoid actually having an honest conversation.

It's bad faith and immature discussion at its finest.

So you don’t think he should face the law?
 
Lol surely you don't believe that. I mean if you want to ignore the sweatshops that build iPhones and abhorrent working conditions that the people deal with then sure, his hands are clean.

Well, I did say relatively. For example Cook's hands would be relatively clean compared to the orange billionaire conman you've been defending.
 
How much of the problem is Tim and how much of it is the guy with the small penis who expects people to come kiss the ring to get favors or he'll go after their company / organization / school?

"Yes" is my answer there.

There are ways to navigate this that don't involve giving a public hummer with a gold and glass trophy gift as the frosting.

Nauseatingly over the top acquiescence in my opinion.
 
That's pretty conspiratorial thinking, I have to say.
The prosecutors were elected on the basis of “get Trump” and spent years looking for technicalities in the law to “get him” bolstered by a corrupt DOJ. The activities were so blatant that anyone with half a brain could see it.

The only thing left is to figure out who the ringleader was. It’s either Hillary or Obama or both.
 
Maybe prosecute him after he left office in 2020. But you're right, it was just a cooincidence that they happened to wait until right before the election to take him to trial. Total coincidence.
Bragg was elected in November 2021. And brought the case to a grand jury in January 2023.

So not "right before the election".

EDIT: Sorry. I originally posted the timeline for the civil fraud case instead of this one.
 
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The prosecutors were elected on the basis of “get Trump” and spent years looking for technicalities in the law to “get him” bolstered by a corrupt DOJ. The activities were so blatant that anyone with half a brain could see it.

The only thing left is to figure out who the ringleader was. It’s either Hillary or Obama or both.

You should cut out Fox News and such from your media diet. It's bad for your health.
 
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