Apple CEO Tim Cook: Health Industry is 'Ripe for Simplicity and a New View'

[Soccertess]

I hope so! They're on Wall Street, and they don't fill 501c3 forms for a reason.



True. Once you buy an apple product you get electrocuted even at the idea of switching back to Win/Linux/Android/BeOS. You are FORCED into this madness, and you can't get out!



Thankfully they're the only company like that. My bank cares about me. Microsoft cares about me. And google? yes, they do care about me. I love 'em all, except greedy apple.

Hey, I was just pointing out that they are for profit and didn't buy when someone said when they said they aren't in this for the money.

But the idea of switching back, I think you are missing the point. I'm just pointing out that it's their strategy to keep you in their ecosystem. Remember the whole DRM law suit on fair-play? I don't think it's a stretch on my part to use that as an example to illustrate how Apple has tried to lock down customers before. EVEN Steve Wozniak has said he doesn't agree with this approach and he said this publicly! THE WOZ!!!! Are you saying the woz doens't know what's up?


"My bank cares about me. Microsoft cares about me. And google? yes, they do care about me. I love 'em all, except greedy apple" -

Just pointing out that Tim isn't trying to revolutionize people's health as he is implying with his statements. If he really thought his product (Apple Watch) was so revolutionary, he would open it to other OS to use and benefit more people (which I hope he does).

 

[macs4nw]

The Apple Watch will never take off unless they simplify the lineup and eliminate its dependence on the iPhone.

It's a pretty safe bet that's coming in a future version......

 

[tw1ll]

That's how they can actually deliver value and not crap. In health care devices that's probably something you want.

Yes, but Apple don't make healthcare devices - they aren't FDA approved and I would wager never will be, it's too much trouble.

 

[dk001]

Diabetes
I do not understand why Apple still does not offer its own hardware for diabetics. They have the money to calm the FDA preventer guys, to buy patents, and to set up easy-to-handle hardware. Today, there are various insulin pumps and cgm systems available, but looking on simplicity, they all are LPs instead of MP3s. Diabetes is a huge, determinable, defeatable, prospective and permanent market. Automobile market is so much harder to enter.
So, I personally am still dreaming of an Apple-Watch that monitors Blood Glucose and controlles an Apple Insulin pump. Then... I will buy my first Apple Watch. Promised.

In the USA getting into the medical segment and dealing with the FDA is a nightmare. Now if Apple did a Google and partnered (as a developer/contractor) with a major medical house it would be very doable.

 

[Denmac1]

Okie-dokie, but it wasn't broken.

Some of us get what Cook is talking about, and it doesn't really have anything to do with what you said. So how does a company know when their customers love their products? How do they measure that love?

Believe me, I have been using Apple products since 1984. I am entrenched in the ecosystem with watch, computer, phone, iPods and tablets.

Tim is and will always be a bean counter. Not that that's bad in it's own right, but no one is really driving the team. Schiller, and especially Cue, need to pony up or go.

Soldered appliances, buggy software and slow hardware updates are now normal. This isn't the Apple that drove innovation for products that were already out there to be better. I'm glad I bought my 2012 Mac Mini when I did as many of us knew what was going to happen to the upgrade. They have become predictable and stale.
To me, still selling a 3 year old 'Pro' computer for the same price is absurd. There is no more 'cutting edge'.

For the last two months, Cook has been running nothing but 'dog & pony' shows, because the stock has tanked. Hiring 4,000 people to buy into India because China is slowing down and putting some of the India team on maps, to me, shows Cupertino isn't cutting it anymore. Let's throw money at purchasing other companies so we can also prove we will continue to 'Think Different'.

And don't even get me started on the 'Thin' fetish...........

 

[Michael Goff]

No, they aren't.
Haven't you listened to Tim?

Tim disagrees with you.

"I think being hungry -- not being driven by money, but being driven by some higher purpose and building great products -- is really key. Never do something strictly for money. Do it for love, do it for passion."

The quote is to not do it just for money. It doesn't say not to have profits anywhere in mind.

 

[dk001]

It's a pretty safe bet that's coming in a future version......

Yup.
Coming soon...

 

[Denmac1]

If by "model of efficiency" you mean systematically delaying claims and request for care, essentially killing some patients without criminal liability, yes. As a place of compassion staffed with top flight people interested in helping ailing vets, compared to a private hospital, nope. Private hospitals have their own set of problems, but denying patients the care they need or making them wait an unreasonable amount of time for care isn't one of them. Bob McDonald has proven he is a real clown and no better than Shinseki.

This is so true, I can't disclose where I got my info, but our Vets, which deserve the best for their contribution to their country, are getting shafted big time. Sad state for our country. Even today, the VA was on the hot seat.

 

[Andres Cantu]

20:23 - Tim Cook says iMessage and FaceTime have been encrypted since 2008 but they were released in 2011 and 2010...

 

[radiology]

Believe me, I have been using Apple products since 1984. I am entrenched in the ecosystem with watch, computer, phone, iPods and tablets.

Tim is and will always be a bean counter. Not that that's bad in it's own right, but no one is really driving the team. Schiller, and especially Cue, need to pony up or go.

Soldered appliances, buggy software and slow hardware updates are now normal. This isn't the Apple that drove innovation for products that were already out there to be better. I'm glad I bought my 2012 Mac Mini when I did as many of us knew what was going to happen to the upgrade. They have become predictable and stale.
To me, still selling a 3 year old 'Pro' computer for the same price is absurd. There is no more 'cutting edge'.

For the last two months, Cook has been running nothing but 'dog & pony' shows, because the stock has tanked. Hiring 4,000 people to buy into India because China is slowing down and putting some of the India team on maps, to me, shows Cupertino isn't cutting it anymore. Let's throw money at purchasing other companies so we can also prove we will continue to 'Think Different'.

And don't even get me started on the 'Thin' fetish...........

Denmac1,

I agree 100% with you. It's really sad to see the directon Apple is taking.

There's hope Wall Street (yes Wall Street) may help us get Apple back. If the stocks continue to go down, maybe we can kick Tim's ass and get rid of him.

 

[jayducharme]

I thought the most interesting question was about the telecoms, and whether Apple would become its own wireless carrier. The enthusiasm of the crowd was surprising. I guess crappy wireless service isn't just a U.S. thing.

It was also interesting to hear Tim emphasize coding as an essential skill all students (and teachers) should have.

 

[IJ Reilly]

Believe me, I have been using Apple products since 1984. I am entrenched in the ecosystem with watch, computer, phone, iPods and tablets.

Tim is and will always be a bean counter. Not that that's bad in it's own right, but no one is really driving the team. Schiller, and especially Cue, need to pony up or go.

Soldered appliances, buggy software and slow hardware updates are now normal. This isn't the Apple that drove innovation for products that were already out there to be better. I'm glad I bought my 2012 Mac Mini when I did as many of us knew what was going to happen to the upgrade. They have become predictable and stale.
To me, still selling a 3 year old 'Pro' computer for the same price is absurd. There is no more 'cutting edge'.

For the last two months, Cook has been running nothing but 'dog & pony' shows, because the stock has tanked. Hiring 4,000 people to buy into India because China is slowing down and putting some of the India team on maps, to me, shows Cupertino isn't cutting it anymore. Let's throw money at purchasing other companies so we can also prove we will continue to 'Think Different'.

And don't even get me started on the 'Thin' fetish...........

Speaking of fetishes, how about that Steve fetish? Really. Steve allowed a lot of bogosity that is now so conveniently forgotten. The other sad part about this is that no matter how much or often Cook talks about how he views Apple as an engine of change rather merely of profits, he's always going to be Mr. Bean Counter to those who live in the rose-colored haze of His Steveness. Because, you know, he isn't St. Steve. All that being said I am not a big fan of Cook's communications skills. Though I know he'll never be Steve in that department (who could be?) he does seriously need to consult his thesaurus once in awhile. I mean, even I know everything isn't incredible and amazing, and it does get tiresome to hear him use those adjectives endlessly. His talking about the big picture, that I like better because it tells me that some of the spirit of Steve does live on through him.

 

[Wowereit]

20:23 - Tim Cook says iMessage and FaceTime have been encrypted since 2008 but they were released in 2011 and 2010...

Tim isn't about products, he is a great supply chain and accounting guy.
Tim could work for a detergent or dogfood or car company just as good as he does at Apple.
The right place for Tim is COO. Managing operative business is his thing, new ideas and future development aren't.

 

[AppleScruff1]

The problem with the health industry is the bureaucracy involved in getting anything done. Really hoping Apple, with its power can do that. Maybe Apple is doing somewhat of the right thing, getting its fingers ever so slightly in the rotten pie. Politics, healthcare, law, equality; some of the hardest things to change, but in a way, that's what technology was always meant to do.

Yea, because Apple is anything but a bureaucracy.
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Cook went on to say that health is something that interests Apple because it's an area where hardware, software, and services can come together into "something that's magical."

When it comes to business advice, Cook ended the interview by saying companies shouldn't be worried about cannibalizing their products and shouldn't compromise. "Don't get full of yourself. Don't smoke your own exhaust. Don't worry about cannibalizing yourself," he said. "I think being hungry -- not being driven by money, but being driven by some higher purpose and building great products -- is really key. Never do something strictly for money. Do it for love, do it for passion "

Did anyone else laugh at the lines in bold?

 

[niun]

The problem with the health industry is the bureaucracy involved in getting anything done. Really hoping Apple, with its power can do that. Maybe Apple is doing somewhat of the right thing, getting its fingers ever so slightly in the rotten pie. Politics, healthcare, law, equality; some of the hardest things to change, but in a way, that's what technology was always meant to do.

Well, Apple appear to be having some issues getting traction in the entertainment industry with Apple TV. Are they really able to take on the health industry?

 

[Denmac1]

Speaking of fetishes, how about that Steve fetish? Really. Steve allowed a lot of bogosity that is now so conveniently forgotten. The other sad part about this is that no matter how much or often Cook talks about how he views Apple as an engine of change rather merely of profits, he's always going to be Mr. Bean Counter to those who live in the rose-colored haze of His Steveness. Because, you know, he isn't St. Steve. All that being said I am not a big fan of Cook's communications skills. Though I know he'll never be Steve in that department (who could be?) he does seriously need to consult his thesaurus once in awhile. I mean, even I know everything isn't incredible and amazing, and it does get tiresome to hear him use those adjectives endlessly. His talking about the big picture, that I like better because it tells me that some of the spirit of Steve does live on through him.

But really, what is the big picture? Tim has been talking about great new products coming down the pipe for over 2 years. He states he can't talk about them, but to me, at this point, it's vaporware. I think he needs to appoint a better front man for the presentations. I didn't even want to watch the last one and I haven't missed one in years.

I do get your point about Steve, but I still think Cook is better off in the supply line. Steve certainly had his amount of faux pas. Think 'You're holding it wrong'

 

[dav1dd]

Oh dear - like the watch is going to help make people healthy. Get off your ass and move. And if you need a device to give you feedback on how much you moved or where your health is at generally, then God help you.
What you need is: self-discipline and the desire to be a better/fitter/healthier person.

 

[JimmyHook]

I'm tired of Apple haters posting here. This should be a site for Apple fans.

 

[Mr. Dee]

The quote is to not do it just for money. It doesn't say not to have profits anywhere in mind.

Who says you can't lower prices and still make a profit? The fact is, the market is getting saturated and profits are starting to get less each quarter. Remember, a Macintosh in 1985 cost $2,500, the cheapest iMac today starts at 1,200. The Macintosh from 1985 would cost over $5,000 today in 2016 dollars when adjusted for inflation. Do you think Apple would charge that amount for a consumer computer? The last time I checked, the Mac Pro is not the hottest selling Mac in Apples lineup.

Also, the technology has gotten better, the process to make an iPhone and manufacturer is not like 2007, Apple can more than lower the price. Apple used to be in a unique position when they had both the hardware and software. Its less about the OS now, its more about services and key apps, which both Android and iOS have.

The ease with which users can move between Android and iOS should be a concern. Apple should focus more on getting their platform both hardware and software in the hands of many users than being just a premium brand. The company desperately needs growth, hence the India tour. Even China is getting fatigued with the upgrades. Not everyone will be lucky enough to have the disposable income or job security to even own some of the company's innovation.

Also, affordability doesn't mean cutting corners on quality either. Apple uses the same components that are available in Windows PC's and Android phones. In fact, the same manufacturers build the same products at scale.

 

[Pilgrim1099]

Tim isn't about products, he is a great supply chain and accounting guy.
Tim could work for a detergent or dogfood or car company just as good as he does at Apple.
The right place for Tim is COO. Managing operative business is his thing, new ideas and future development aren't.

There's one big problem with that.

Tim promoted his boy Jeff Williams to COO. He can't go back to that job. There's only one direction for Tim to leave the CEO position and that is out the front doors of the company.

He's full of crap and always has been.

 

[Michael Goff]

Who says you can't lower prices and still make a profit? The fact is, the market is getting saturated and profits are starting to get less each quarter. Remember, a Macintosh in 1985 cost $2,500, the cheapest iMac today starts at 1,200. The Macintosh from 1985 would cost over $5,000 today in 2016 dollars when adjusted for inflation. Do you think Apple would charge that amount for a consumer computer? The last time I checked, the Mac Pro is not the hottest selling Mac in Apples lineup.

Also, the technology has gotten better, the process to make an iPhone and manufacturer is not like 2007, Apple can more than lower the price. Apple used to be in a unique position when they had both the hardware and software. Its less about the OS now, its more about services and key apps, which both Android and iOS have.

The ease with which users can move between Android and iOS should be a concern. Apple should focus more on getting their platform both hardware and software in the hands of many users than being just a premium brand. The company desperately needs growth, hence the India tour. Even China is getting fatigued with the upgrades. Not everyone will be lucky enough to have the disposable income or job security to even own some of the company's innovation.

Also, affordability doesn't mean cutting corners on quality either. Apple uses the same components that are available in Windows PC's and Android phones. In fact, the same manufacturers build the same products at scale.

They can't lower it to 200 and make a profit, that much is guaranteed.

 

[maxsix]

Apple and health care?

I don't think so.

The buggy software and updates promise results that I simply wouldn't trust. Apple Watch health and fitness apps lack accuracy and consistency. That's the number one reason I returned my SS AW.

I'm sure at some point Apple may return to the quality standard they once set, however the last few years have revealed that coasting while profit taking is a much higher priority for Apple.

It's a choice. Sadly Apple has perfected the art of hype, and little else.

 

[deathnite]

If the youtube video is blocked in your country here's a mirror. http://www.onemorething.nl/2016/05/kijk-vanaf-1100-live-tim-cook-startup-fest-europe/

 

[Denmac1]

Denmac1,

I agree 100% with you. It's really sad to see the directon Apple is taking.

There's hope Wall Street (yes Wall Street) may help us get Apple back. If the stocks continue to go down, maybe we can kick Tim's ass and get rid of him.

Tim was good as COO, but some of his decisions lately, to me, are questionable. Angela is the first that comes to mind.

I think the other item that many are not looking at is the makeup of the BOD. Just sayin'

 

[IlluminatiMyMindSoul&Body]

Das racist!