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Steve made all sorts of bad decisions, created terrible services and some bad products, and people still remember him. Tim Cook will be remembered long after he dies, as most famous people are. Tim has done far more to better the world we all live in than Steve ever did.
I agree.Jobs cared about no one else but himself.He was not a nice person.
 
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I wish you'd fight as hard to ensure your company releases bug free operating system for your biggest money maker.

But yeah, fight your social justice battles, nobody's gonna remember you after you're done at Apple.

Kind of funny, the most successful CEO in the history of the world. I'll remember him long after he's gone from Apple. He's a good man, and a GREAT CEO.
 
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If DACA is a good idea, Congress should pass legislation. You do not want a president making such policy, because even if you don’t care about the Constitution or separation of powers, someday, there will be a president in office that you don’t like. For some, that was Obama. For others, it’s Trump. Do you want the executive order of a president you don’t like to become law forever?

Well, apparently only Democrats are allowed to revoke executive orders signed by previous administrations. As evidenced by the fact that some judges think they can block the current president from revoking the DACA executive order signed by Obama.

So they have no reason to fight for legislation.
 
Tim fights for anything as long as it doesn't have a financial impact on Apple #brave

One can be the CEO of a large well-known tech company and also fight for social issues concerning not only its employees but the industry at large. It is certainly better than celebrities voicing their opinion on issues that does not effect them personally but it accepted nonetheless due to freedom of speech.

Love his or hate him, he is entitled to his opinion. People in well profiled positions get a lot more attention and to those I say use it for good.

To those voicing concerns over software quality, it is software it will have problems. Sure this release of iOS has not been the most stable but that is why we have a year to iron out bugs till the process repeats. Don't like it don't upgrade even if it is free.
 
So I guess Apple PR needed something to balance the fact that Tim stared in a Trump commercial. And even worse, and most unforgivable, he did not have the integrity nor personal constitution to politely correct his lies. You think this soft-light interview of a liberal cause is going to wash the taste our of our mouths?

Not going to work, Tim Trumper.

You are stained by Trump forever. Hope the tariff relief was worth it.
 
Fighting to protect his company is what a CEO is expected to do. Carefully choosing to only fight social/political battles that don't financially impact your company to appear as righteous makes him an insufferable hypocrite.

Exactly! Look at the human rights abuses in China! Doesn't prevent them from doing a lot of business with China, since it benefits Apple and their board/shareholders.
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So I guess Apple PR needed something to balance the fact that Tim stared in a Trump commercial. And even once, and most unforgivable, did not have the integrity and personal constitution to politely correct his lies. You think this soft-light interview is going to wash the taste our of our mouths?

Not going to work, Tim Trumper. You are stained by Trump forever. How the tariff relief was worth it.

Guilt by association? Seriously? What country do you live in?
 
Not trolling but can you give us some examples in how he made the world better?

Well the number factor of course will go to the ever increasing priceo all products year by year .. and yeah thats a good favour done to the world .
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Maybe if he paid half as much time focusing on Apple instead of politics, we'd have an iPhone 5 like design with an OS that actually works like iOS 6 did instead of the garbage we have today. SMH


Cook was never keen on designing , the opposites of Jobs that is. So we can say goodbyes to good design since yesteryears .
 
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Of course you will Tim. This is the last straw for me. I'm not going to support a company that supports and rewards criminal behavior.

Once my iPhone 7 goes belly up, once my iMacs & MacBook Airs cease to function, I will be finished with Apple until their CEO gets the boot or retires
 
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Gonna fight until his toes point up ?

I wish cook used the same passionate language when referring to his products . Instead we get fake enthusiasm and canned remarks like “ these are the best iPhones we’ve ever created,” “we think you’re going to love it.” I know cook is not a products guy, but that’s Apple’s business, and it really makes one miss Job’s joy de vivre.

Apple to me isn’t about political activism and crying when Oprah Winfrey takes the stage. It’s about excitement over the intersection of groundbreaking tech and art, and how that intersection can change our lives. We get a little vision from Tim with Apple Watch , but that’s about it. I hope Tim’s replacement brings some of the genuine, palpable enthusiasm back.
 
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Of course you will Tim. This is the last straw for me. I'm not going to support a company that supports and rewards criminal behavior.

Once my iPhone 7 goes belly up, once my iMacs & MacBook Airs cease to function, I will be finished with Apple until their CEO gets the boot or retires

Ah yes, those criminal 4 year-olds who totally had a choice coming to the United States when they were young.
 
Of course you will Tim. This is the last straw for me. I'm not going to support a company that supports and rewards criminal behavior.

Once my iPhone 7 goes belly up, once my iMacs & MacBook Airs cease to function, I will be finished with Apple until their CEO gets the boot or retires

Tim’s certainly hitched his legacy to privacy.

The major problem, however, is everyone knows if apple didn’t sell hardware, they’d be selling your data just like everyone else.

What if , like Jobs , Tim took an aggressive public stand on quality of product, user experience, and visions of a brighter future reigned in through tech ? He would win a lot more customers over, moreso than disingenuously touting privacy ? Wouldn’t he ?
 
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Anyone who has ever lived near the border can tell you how much of a joke DACA is.

I’ve lived in Arizona and there were seedy shopping plaza hole-in-the-wall type joints with banners hanging outside of their businesses that would read “DACA: $225” or some such.

Basically walk in and pay a fee and they’ll help you.

And that’s saying nothing of the some 80,000 DACA with previous arrest records. These are not innocent children and angels. Many of them are previous criminals or liars. That’s just reality and we need to face what the reality is rather than what our ideological minds would like it to be.

/MyTwoCents
 
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This is a manufactured wedge issue that Congress is using to energize certain voting blocs.

All Congress has to do
  1. Update immigration program to be pro-America in the sense that we take in people and fast track those immigrants that actually benefit the US. For example, Indian computer science engineers ... that we don't want to go back overseas after studying at Stanford, MIT, etc. Stop making them wait an entire decade or more to get their citizenship!
  2. Grant a temporary amnesty to those that came here illegally. Make them pay a fine and go through a ten-year process to get legal citizenship. If they fail, deport. You don't want everyone to stay here that won't be productive citizens. .
  3. Grant amnesty to children that are born here. Preferably to parents that have applied for temporary amnesty.
  4. Build the wall to strengthen the newly updated immigration program from step 1.

Get your facts straight re #3: Children born in the US are US Citizens from birth. The US is one of the only countries left on the planet that still allows this. Even the beloved New Zealand got rid of "anchor baby" citizenship years ago.

RE #1: The H-1B program has NEVER required that employment markets show a shortage of labor supply before visa are issued for jobs in those markets(look it up). The lack of such protection caused an oversupply of (mainly tech) workers, and a reduction of salary levels. We need a guest worker program, but not one that damages labor markets by scuttling wages. In a capitalist democracy, congress has the power and duty to enact legislation to allow proper function of free markets - including immigration policy. But congress should NOT be able to damage markets by killing wages. The H-1B visa program has been abused and needs to be repealed and replaced with a system that protects U.S. workers. But to many powerful people (specifically in tech) have members of congress in their pockets for that to happen.

The issue with DACA relates to their eligibility to work legally. That eligibility was granted by bureaucrats within the USCIS, not by enacting proper legislation. The same issue also applies to granting spouses of H-1B visa holders the employment eligibility. This has become a free ticket to work in the US via arranged marriages. This issue was heard by SCOTUS last week, and its decision is pending. Like the H-1B problems, this is also a money = power problem.

#2 Will not work if it is fine based. Imposition of a higher tax rates on aliens over (at least) 10 years is the only way to vet them properly. Some taxation of employers hiring aliens should also occur.

Totally agree on #4. Spend extra taxes collected from aliens to build it.

Also, the US should heavily tax ALL funds sent out of the US that are earned by alien work visa holders. More to spend on the wall.

The goal of ALL immigration policy should be to enable proper functioning of free markets.

The main problem now is how to fix the damage to employment supply caused by these reckless immigration policies. The US education system generates less STEM graduates than it did decades ago, and the number continues to plummet. Why go into tech if your wages will be suppressed and you'll be screwed out of a job after you turn 40?

Now the US is in a panic because there is no 5G telecom equipment vendor. Duh, why would anyone invest in a 5G startup when there's no one to hire, or your IP will be stolen by the Chinese?

Timmy's emotional "until my toes point up" platitude only demonstrates how immigration policy can be spun into emotional manipulation. This is how common sense goes out the window.

Power of government should be limited and not driven by emotions.
 
The issue with DACA Was not as much the legislation is that it WASN‘T legislation but an order.

Laws are made by congress. Democrats had a super majority for 2 years and the wind behind Obama’s election. ANYTHING that was left undone by that group - they have no reason to complain. The could have fixed DACA and not one thing Was done.

Too often problems make good platforms for elections and they are concerned not with serving but with holding onto power.
 
If DACA is a good idea, Congress should pass legislation. You do not want a president making such policy, because even if you don’t care about the Constitution or separation of powers, someday, there will be a president in office that you don’t like. For some, that was Obama. For others, it’s Trump. Do you want the executive order of a president you don’t like to become law forever?

A lot of people don't think like this. They just want "their guy" to "win"

One thing I have learned..... whenever you give the government new powers, it does not give them back!
 
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