Apple CEO Tim Cook Meets with Top Chinese Official After iCloud Login Harvesting Claims

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple CEO Tim Cook met with a top Chinese government official in Beijing Wednesday to discuss the security of user data, reports Reuters. The meeting comes after web censorship blog Great Fire claimed earlier this week that hackers worked with Chinese authorities to harvest Apple ID information from Chinese users visiting

    Yesterday, Apple issued a statement acknowledging the attacks on its servers and launched a new browser security guide on its website. The guide stressed the importance of digital certificates, asking users to check for any certificate warnings in their browser and ensure that they are connected to versus a malicious third-party website that resembles the service's homepage.

    China has become an increasingly important market for Apple, as the company now has eleven retail stores in the country and sells the iPhone on all three major wireless carriers. Apple also launched the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus in China last Friday following a week of successful pre-orders.

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    Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook Meets with Top Chinese Official After iCloud Login Harvesting Claims
  2. Jsameds macrumors 68040

    Apr 22, 2008
    I'd pay good money to listen in on that meeting.
  3. MyopicPaideia macrumors 68000


    Mar 19, 2011
    San Diego, CA
    Just the fact that the meeting took place gives credence to the claim that a Chinese gov't agency was involved in some way.
  4. FieldingMellish Suspended

    Jun 20, 2010
    Maybe it's not too late to pull out of China.
  5. Macist macrumors 6502a

    Mar 13, 2009
    The USA intelligence agencies harvest huge amounts of our online data from major IT companies.

    The Chinese just want parity in the arms race.
  6. Dagless macrumors Core


    Jan 18, 2005
    Fighting to stay in the EU
    Just watch the stream, Apple are good at letting us listen to Chinese people during them.
  7. keysofanxiety macrumors G3


    Nov 23, 2011
    Laughed way too hard at this. I'm also loving the Darkplace references on your profile picture/signature.
  8. The Doctor11 macrumors 603

    The Doctor11

    Dec 15, 2013
    New York
    I would too! That would be really interesting. I'm sure Tim wasnt a happy camper.
  9. JosephAW macrumors 68000


    May 14, 2012
    I'm surprised that the Chinese govmnt even allows ios8 with all its security and encryption on the device unless apple has given them the back door key. The ppl there don't have any right to privacy under communism.
  10. TantalizedMind macrumors 6502a


    Feb 5, 2007
    Do you understand Chinese? LOL
  11. DELLsFan macrumors 6502a


    Jan 6, 2009
    That's right. They have access to and have stored in the great NSA data center ALL of your documents, pictures, data AND meta-data that you've EVER uploaded to iCloud (and other services) for many years.

    No amount of encryption, password-changing or firmware / hard-wired security will protect our data or privacy, people - as long as the government (and others) have their backdoors / or are given the key to access. Period.
  12. TantalizedMind macrumors 6502a


    Feb 5, 2007
    And then what? Hire Americans to make Apple products?.. I hope you don't mind spending $2,000 for an iPhone.. with a contract!
  13. NickPhamUK macrumors 6502


    May 6, 2013
    Not outsourcing to China = going back to USA to hire people. You have strong logic there mate.

    If you have forgotten, let me remind you that there are tons of other countries around the world where Apple could outsource to. In some countries such as Vietnam and Indonesia, guess what, the labor is even cheaper than it is in China.

    But I guess Apple will never pull out of China. It's a market of 1.3 billion people. Unless people around the world start boycotting Apple or the Chinese government forbids Apple from selling stuff there, why would Apple pull out? The ultimate goal for every firm is to maximize profit after all.
  14. Parasprite macrumors 68000


    Mar 5, 2013
    Evidence-wise it doesn't make a difference one way or the other.

    They were involved: They want to control the incident for [insert malicious or diplomatic reasons here].
    They weren't involved: They want to do a bit of damage control. They don't want **** to hit the fan because they're being blamed for something they didn't have anything to do with.

    ---------- know, just using labor from a different country with less labor restrictions. I'm sure they would be happy to take it.
  15. BMcCoy macrumors 65816


    Jun 24, 2010
    :cool: me too...

    "visionary... dreamweaver... plus actor"

    "blood.... blood... blood...blood... and bits of sick"
  16. macnisse macrumors 6502

    Jun 26, 2010
    Well played Tim, a CEO face-to-face meeting = more impact and indeed shows a strong concern about the matter.
  17. byke macrumors 6502a


    Mar 29, 2007
    LDN. UK
    One good thing for Chinese users is when they want to order a new copy of iOS, all they need to do is ask for number 8.
  18. gnasher729 macrumors P6


    Nov 25, 2005
    Does Tim Cook speak or understand Chinese? I doubt it. There will be at least a translator, so you would be able to hear everything in English.
  19. iapplelove macrumors 601


    Nov 22, 2011
    East Coast USA
    This is exactly what it means. We all witnessed how many iPhones sold in China,it's a huge market with tons of revenue. Tim wasted no time sending someone else to represent apples concerns,must have felt he was the one that needed to be present.
  20. gnasher729 macrumors P6


    Nov 25, 2005
    Why would Apple pull out from China?

    If Apple doesn't sell iPads and iPhones to Chinese customers, someone else will sell them tablets and phones. And you can bet that these tablets and phones will be less secure than iPads and iPhones, so by pulling out the ones who are suffering are Apple and the Chinese people. And Tim Cook doesn't want either to suffer.


    There is no backdoor key.

    That's the whole point. Even if the police takes your locked iPhone, brings it to Apple's headquarters together with a search warrant, Apple is not capable of unlocking the phone and reading any data on it.
  21. bbeagle macrumors 68040


    Oct 19, 2010
    Buffalo, NY
    If they WEREN'T involved, why would they need to do any damage control? That makes ZERO sense.

    Rumor is that Parasprite is cheating on his wife. Ok, Parasprite! Do some damage control!
  22. MattMJB0188 macrumors 68000

    Dec 28, 2009
    That Adam's apple has got a mind of its own. WOW.
  23. RedOrchestra Suspended

    Aug 13, 2012
    Like China listened to Cook - ever heard of the adage ... In one ear, out the other?

    China will do what China will do.
  24. Plutonius macrumors 604


    Feb 22, 2003
    New Hampshire
    What can Tim say to them. "Don't do it again or I'll get mad" :D.
  25. TWSS37 macrumors 65816

    Feb 4, 2011
    The only thing that should be harvested are organs

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