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Apple CEO Tim Cook Named to TIME's Annual List of 100 Most Influential People
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Been over to AppleInsider lately? That's a laughing stock. Replace "Steve Jobs," "Apple" or "Tim Cook" with "Jesus" and they sound like a bunch of rabid fanatical loons.
While Steve deserves a lot of the credit, Tim Cook's position came about from being a last man standing after Steve's infamous firing of many "bozo parade members" just after replacing Spindler. Tim didn't candy coat anything for Steve and told him just how bad Apple's internal organization became during his absence. Supposedly, Tim really didn't care if he was fired or not since he was only interested in doing the right thing. That impressed Steve a lot.
Tim isn't a bad CEO, but I don't see why he deserves this nod. He's a logistics guy, which is great, but I've never seen him as some kind of influential visionary. Clearly neither does Wall Street, given AAPL's performance as of late. The iPhone SE and the new iPad Pro both should have been big deals, but the market reacted with a pretty solid "meh." Why? Because both were reactionary, not innovative products. The SE was a reaction to India and other burgeoning markets showing little to no interest in the full priced 6 or 6s versus cheaper but solid Android devices, as well a way to get rid of surplus 6 and 6s parts. The 9.7" iPad Pro was a reaction to the less than earth-shattering response to the full-sized Pro and the slowdown in sales for the iPad line as a whole. Don't get me wrong, both are solid products in their own right, heck I own the new Pro because I was due for an upgrade anyway and it's basically an Air 3 with a 100 dollar premium attached, but neither have exactly set the market afire with envy and copycats. If anything, the SE is copying those cheaper yet solid performing Android handsets like the OnePlusTwo and Nexus, and the entire Pro line is playing intellectual catch-up with the Surface Pro line.
If I had to guess, then, this nod has more to do with his openness regarding his sexual orientation than as a business mogul.
If I had to guess, then, this nod has more to do with his openness regarding his sexual orientation than as a business mogul.
Record breaking quarters all around with the last one breaking world records...yeah, certainly nothing for Wall Street or anyone else to be happy about. Clearly it's all about something else and not the company doing better than essentially any company ever.
I am sure he did really well to get to where he is right now. No doubt. I dont hate him. But he does not live up to Jobs' vision. I am a big fan of Apple but I feel so jealous of Android devices because of all the damn new features + waterproof they have. Of course im not saying iOS is bad. Pls pls Apple catchup and lead the market
I am thinking it has more to do with standing up to the FBI and DoJ than Apple making money.
Apple had record breaking quarters before Cook. If Apple is still breaking records a decade from now under his leadership, then I think it would be because of his leadership. But, I think he is still riding on the success of Apple during Jobs' tenure.
As a consumer, and a long time Apple fan, it seems like a lot of the changes at Apple since Cook is not something to be admired. But, that is just my opinion.
Apple has a new vision and it is the face of TC. Companies must grow internally and change; the world is not stagnant. If you feel jealous of the competition it's easy to remediate...you know what to do.
AAPL is down nearly 20% year over year. The iPhone is reaching saturation and the iPad will most likely be down this quarter as it was last quarter. That leaves the Mac, sales of which are really going to depend on what they announce at WWDC given the universal shoulder shrug reaction to the rMB update this week, and iTunes/App Store/iCloud.
But let me ask this question since I've already answered yours: who exactly is Tim influencing? If anyone is copying Apple anymore, it's Steve Jobs-era Apple. Take away Tim's role model status for the LGBT community (of which he is a fantastic role model for and there is no arguing that) and his recent philanthropic work (which is nice but it's not like he's giving Bill Gates a run for his money anytime soon in that department) and what exactly is influential here? His recent stance on user privacy? Ok, that's nice but really that had a lot more to do with Apple's continued stance on Jailbreaking and maintaining their closed ecosystem than standing up for the rights of the users. Apple had everything to gain from taking a hard stance against the Feds on this issue, financially and in the court of public opinion, so it's a bit starry-eyed and naive to attach righteous intentions to any of that.
Only I didn't. I made my case as to why he didn't deserve the nod, then I asked you to make your case as to why he did. I'm sorry, am I mistaken in my assumption that you are able to provide a better response than "cuz"?
Seems like you might be mixing people up. In any case: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...fluential-people.1968891/page-3#post-22824924
So is Satya Nadella, where is he on this list this year? With that broad of a requirement, there are a lot of CEO's absent from the list I could rattle off. Again, what has Tim done this year to deserve his place on the list?
there is a bigger picture that is being missed and you are asking others to fill in the blanks that your own filters can't see past?
It's not my list although I'm glad he made it..you might want to contact the editors to find out why.
How else would he sell the "hey, I am just like you, the customer" lie?
I wouldn't be surprised if that isn't his actual office and the photo was taken for PR purposes.
[doublepost=1461368382][/doublepost]I don't have Apple stock, but if I did, as a shareholder I would have liked him. But as a customer, I don't like him much.
Sounds like you might want to contact TIME for a more specific answer as to why they decided something for their publication.
There's something about black and white photography that makes it so much more dramatic...... no colors to distract you from the subject.....
We need a new Apple CEO asap instead of Tim constantly collecting useless awards. This guy doesn't have a clue. Apple product line is a mess with so many models and all with different names. Every product is a mixture of very old and new components and every models lacks 2 or 3 features the other has and vice versa. Tim instead of trying to be a press prima donna go back to the office and update the MacMini, MacBooks, MacPro and Apple display. Get rid of the disgusting bumps on these iPhones and battery pack and add MagSafe on the MacBook. Get rid of soldered ram on the Mac mini and iMac and put back the 4 cores on the mini. Tim acts like the kardashian, he loves to be on tv and he is always talking to the press about nothing, instead of working hard. Him and Jony were ok when they were taking orders from Steve but left alone they are a disaster. He fired Forestall because he didn't apologize about the Map ? and let Ive put these unreadable skinny fonts and transparency all over the OS ? Let's get Elon Musk or Dorsey or someone who can think and dream apple product every second of the day instead of traveling all day and taking pictures with anyone he meets for no reason other then his ego.
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I been thinking about this. The growing number of different names of similar products is a little confusing. I used to keep track of Apple products to stay informed just incase someone asked my opinion on them, but lately I don't bother.
I think this was one of the issues with the Mac line in the mid 90's, although it is not nearly as bad right now as it was then.
I could be totally wrong, but something about Elon Musk just rubs me the wrong way. In interviews he seems like a total douchebag. Although, SJ was kind of an ******, and he kicked butt as Apple's CEO, so maybe that doesn't matter for the consumer.
Edit: The forum censors the abbreviated term for *******, but douchebag is okay? Strange.
While everyone is entitled to their opinion, replacing Tim is not happening. He is the current darling of wall street and apple is doing well under his tutelage with recent models beating record after record. Those who bemoan the "good old days" of apple; they are gone. A new management team is in effect moving apple in a different direction, although hopefully retaining their core competencies.
Tim has made things so horrible that Apple has broken world records when it comes to earnings. Apple is doomed!
Wanted to fact check the bolded. So the day Steve Jobs died the stock was at 54, last close shows 105. The split was on June 9, 2014. So not quite down 20% year over year.
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From what I heard and read, Wall Street does NOT like Tim Cook despite the company's performance because they apparently don't see eye to eye on everything.
The core competencies are not there actually especially if you examine Cue's mess. To Tim, bringing A- list players such as Angela or Dr. Dre to the executive team equals success is NOT a good idea because of ego clashes. He should have gone with other low key professionals who get things done without an ego.
Tim is the problem and he fomented this culture due to the lack of an "iron fist and vision". And the way he promoted Williams to COO is suspicious. Something about those two doesn't seem right.
I guess it's which corner of wall and broad that you stand on you'll get a differing viewpoint.
Interesting that you are wary of Williams's appointment.
There's something about him which I distrust. Very little feedback from anyone else, but I don't think he was made COO for good reasons.
Well, here's the thing that I noticed about both of them. They joined Apple in 1998 at nearly the same time, coming from IBM. They also both have an MBA from Duke University. I checked William's wiki and there is nothing of his personal background nor married life. Of course, we all know of Cook's 'alternative' lifestyle which is his business. I've nothing against gay people.
However, the way Williams got promoted seems 'nepotistic'.