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Apple CEO Tim Cook on Privacy: 'We Very Much Are on Your Side'
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I can, why can’t you answer mine first.
Google has a history of overpaying for nothing.
Like spending 12 billion for Motorola.
i asked first, you answer firstlook this is just getting ridiculous yeah sure google pays billions for nothing... all the time. they love to burn money
They really do. What happened to modular phones again? Wasn’t that suppose to be the future, how many billions was wasted there or on almost all their hardware projects.
You think that’s the only time they lost money on worthless projects.
You should see how much money they lost when they changed their name and disclosed the losses.
https://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/22/the-big-costs-behind-googles-moonshot-start-ups.html
YouTube never used to make money for google either, has that changed?
https://www.businessinsider.com/youtube-still-doesnt-make-google-any-money-2015-2?r=US&IR=T
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/4-reasons-youtube-still-doesnt-make-a-profit/
main goal google is to go bankrupt. you win
Is that what you think? No, way to many users to data mine for them to go bankrupt.
Ad and search makes up the bulk of their revenue.... so they can continue to burn through billions as much as they want.
So are you going to answer the question ?
I get you your back tracking. It happens.
No one cares about tracking pixels. We are talking about MINING PERSONAL data, what google does, what google gets caught doing all the time and what ddg doesn’t do.
You said you had evidence to back your claims that ddg was just as bad as google.
Then you posted a paragraph you wrote.
“I am simply saying you're trusting them in good faith that they won't harvest data in a malicious manner. “
Should I trust google in good faith instead?
I actually never said that ddg was definitively mining your data maliciously. I was backing my statement that DDG was collecting data in the same way as others.
And yes you should care about tracking pixels. It’s how you side skirt around mixed content and CORS.
There are links in the paragraph that I wrote earlier.
What does this comment about innovation have to with the original post that you replied to? And just to be clear, things at apple weren't a bed of roses under the leader ship of little Stevey.
Horses for courses as they say.And Apple, imo, is the most forthright company, given it has to comply with certain legalities, about privacy.
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Actually a good reminder...I configured outlook to display everything in text and installed some tracking protection in chrome.I actually never said that ddg was definitively mining your data maliciously. I was backing my statement that DDG was collecting data in the same way as others.
And yes you should care about tracking pixels. It’s how you side skirt around mixed content and CORS.
There are links in the paragraph that I wrote earlier.
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Well, they are on our side with smart phones at least as that's encrypted by default. Your 50% there.
You firstThey really do. What happened to modular phones again? Wasn’t that suppose to be the future, how many billions was wasted there or on almost all their hardware projects.
You think that’s the only time they lost money on worthless projects.
You should see how much money they lost when they changed their name and disclosed the losses.
https://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/22/the-big-costs-behind-googles-moonshot-start-ups.html
YouTube never used to make money for google either, has that changed?
https://www.businessinsider.com/youtube-still-doesnt-make-google-any-money-2015-2?r=US&IR=T
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/4-reasons-youtube-still-doesnt-make-a-profit/
Is that what you think? No, way to many users to data mine for them to go bankrupt.
Ad and search makes up the bulk of their revenue.... so they can continue to burn through billions as much as they want.
So are you going to answer the question ?
seriously though, don't bother. you convinced me, google is paying apple 9 bill just to burn money because thats what they like to do
But the phone could do so much more like an actual heart monitor like an EKG, or an Real Accu-check device. There is a reason the most doctors don't utilize a wrist device to take the blood pressure. If they are going to go down this road, maybe hire a medical pro to help advice with dev.
those are all personal choices. I have none of those on my apps on my iphone nor do I use any of those services. I use a VPN, ad blocker, etc. DuckDuckGo for search, iCloud and protonmail for email. Privacy is whatever state of sharing/online footprint the user is comfortable with. Privacy is not a pointless unachievable chase. You can make meaningful decisions to limit the amount of data shared about you. Go listen to a podcast titled "reclaim your data" done by NPR. worth the listen.
Personal choice or not, my point is that all of these Ways of harvesting your data are available and allowed on the iPhone platform. You would get a different idea by listening to Tim Apple who says privacy is paramount...when all the same harvesting avenues are available on iPhone as in Android phones.
That’s precisely the point.
https://iphone.appleinsider.com/art...early-10-times-more-user-data-than-apples-ios
Privacy isn’t binary. Just because I can’t stop my data from leaking out there doesn’t mean I lie back and spread my legs for any company who wants it.
So far, I don’t use Facebook, have switched to DDG, use safari and maps over chrome and google maps, and have started flirting with iCloud mail again. I use YouTube and drive because their utility outweighs the privacy concerns.
There are steps we can take to limit the amount of data these companies get, even if we can’t prevent it altogether.
Every little bit we does matters.
Check out a macOS app called freetube. It’s on github, or use invidio.us to avoid YouTube. Because I’m curious, why not use iCloud Drive?
That is pretty funny coming from someone like you. So you are now guilty of hand feeding your personal data to Google. Pretty soon, Google will use all that data mined from your YouTube viewing and figure everything about your life.
Instead of Drive, take control over your own destiny. Set up a NAS and have it publicly accessible.