Google pays apple $9 billion per year. That info was revealed from documents in a court trial. Do you really think google is paying $9 billion for nothing?
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Apple CEO Tim Cook on Privacy: 'We Very Much Are on Your Side'
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Google pays apple $9 billion per year. That info was revealed from documents in a court trial. Do you really think google is paying $9 billion for nothing?
I recently switched back to DDG again as well. Credit where credit is due - Google search is indeed the best out there, but DDG isn’t all that bad either, and well, we will see how long this flirtation lasts.
Haven’t used google search In a long time.
Ddg has been great for me, even downloaded the ddg browser, where it blocks all trackers and tells you which trackers the website is trying to employ to track you. It’s eye opening.
That point has already been discussed. Perhaps reading the thread might help?
You, the user, can easily change your browser search engine for Safari in the settings menu. So what’s your point? If you use Google, that’s on you. Apple isn’t giving them the data, YOU are.
But apple sets the default to Google and doesn't have a pop up dialog box asking on first run of mobile safari. Apple gets money for doing that too. Apple is aiding in googles collection of data.
That’s some nice spin. Do yo believe Apple sends pii to google for being in compliance with web standards? At any rate you are entitled to your hyperbolic criticism of Apple.
Bravo to Apple for collecting $9B a year for doing what some users would probably do anyway.
Of course not! Tim always pick the subjects and journalists who show him questions in advance. Far to be the man with big balls that Steve was who sustained even FREE questions from a room full of people.
Haven’t used google search In a long time.
Ddg has been great for me, even downloaded the ddg browser, where it blocks all trackers and tells you which trackers the website is trying to employ to track you. It’s eye opening.
Have you seen the pixels that DDG fires? If not, hook up wireshark or network tracer and observe. It is kinda interesting at first glance what they are pulling from users.
They said there is no private data sent except that if they were malicious they can reverse engineer where the pixels came from and from what IP.
But yes continue believing you can’t be tracked. After all you must not pay taxes nor pay with credit cards. It’s ironic that you trust a 3rd party to block other 3rd parties.
As long as it less than what google mines.
Well at least ddg will act only if there was malicious intent. Google just mines everything.
Why are you confusing google with a government.
Do you believe google to be your government.
Maybe you do pay google taxes who knows.
I trust ddg to Block google, they are very good at it.
Why does it bother you so much?
I know you have to have an android device because it cheap so your forced to use google you don’t have any choice. But why does it bother you when others don’t use google.
As I see it apple takes 9 billion from google for doing the dirty work. Apple can claim that they don’t collect any data while still profiting from googles data collection.
What dirty work? Your narrative is false and misleading as Apple doesn’t claim they don’t collect data. Having said that bravo to them for collecting money from google.
hi that is not the point, the point is that the new CEO didn’t create or invented the burgers, the new CEO just took an already stablished business that already got costumers, do you know that we probably have more people in the world now compared against 10 or 20 years ago, so is obvious since there is more people there is also more sales because one big reason why the demand grew or apple is selling more iPhone than in the past is also because the population also grew
i don’t have the chart now but i remember seeing a chart about iPhone sales year by year and maybe i’m wrong or i might not remember correctly but in one of steve years, the iPhone sold very good and it was as good as Tim best year
also yes apple sales iPhones there is no denying, yes the iPhones sales at 1,000 price, yes the burgers in MCD do not cost 1,000 but no one in their right mind can say that apple sales iPhones like burgers
i will say for every 1000 burgers that MCD sales, apple probably sales one iPhone or by every 1,000 dollars that MCD make on selling combos, shakes etc, apple sales one iPhone, no one is saying that Tim is mediocre but he is not a genius, he didn’t invented anything, iPhone sale all by themselves
this is like telling a beautiful girl, simply stay there, smile and look pretty, any pretty girl can do that
so Tim has done nothing special other than just sit on a chair
i really love the part that Tim supporters keep bring up in his defense
but Tim has sold more iPhones than Steve
Steve was only CEO 4 years in the iPhone era while mr cook already been CEO 8 years of course he is going to sale more, he been there longer, duh
Tim has done an excellent job, yes at killing the mac pro
my problem is Tim supporters taking all the credit away from Steve and giving it to mr cook
steve didn’t do nothing and tim has done it all
yeah right is more like the opposite, i already know all tim lawyers by name, they act like tim and talk like tim, they always come with their numbers, only see one side of the coin and try to ignore everything else or cover up, look for comment that has tim name on it, to go to the rescue, our beloved tim
is ok i get it , but you guys don’t but don’t worry one day you will
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No, you are aiding in the collection of data. It takes seconds to swap it. You own your phone for a year, or years. The user is responsible for your privacy. Apple is not the one selling your data, Google is, and you have a choice to use, or not to use.
Apple does claim they value privacy and makes it a differentiating factor to google. Then they take 9 billion from google to make data exchange with google a default setting. Leaves a bad taste...
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As far as I know Google is not selling your data. But apple is selling data exchange, yes you can turn it of (change the default search engine), but it is worth 9 billion to google for a very good reason.
That’s different than what you said in the original post except Apple doesn’t exchange pii data with google only standard web data based on what user voluntarily gives google. I’m okay with the 9b. Ymmv.
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Now why is that "standard web data" so valuable to google. And what does "standard web data" even mean anyway. A password is very standard web data too. Google searches, especially when aggregated over long time can contain very sensitive information. And they have very advanced fingerprinting and user identifying techniques running backend, ip address, location, timing, spelling, browsing behaviour, all connected to advanced AI.
Again, why do you think that "standard web data" is worth 9 bill to google?
To be fair, he is one of the best known CEOs in the country largely because he makes himself available to do these type of interviews. Also, as a well known CEO, he has become the face of Apple. I usually don't agree with his politics but I respect him as a person, a spokesperson, and leader. He and his leadership team have been generous to numerous disaster relief efforts and I truly appreciate his stance on privacy. Could Apple do more on privacy? Of course, but I trust them 1000 times more than any other big tech company.
Seems to bother you.
, you should keep doing it.Wow, this is the first time I hear anyone claim DuckDuckGo mines user Data the same way google does.
Any proof to back your claims, or just wishful thinking on your part.
Sure just because you are forced to use google, that means privacy is dead to everyone else that doesn’t also use google yup you make total logical sense.
What phone are you currently using?
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They get your data via tracking pixels. The same method how other ad providers do it. They probably have better intentions, but the more you know about the mechanisms the better.
When I get to a computer, I’ll post some info that give DDG a different angle. I’m not saying DDG is bad, but I am saying to just understand that the technical approach that they are doing is not much different than other companies.
And I use an iPhone X with Safari as my default browser.
Standard web data is not valuable to google and a mobile phones ip changes. Remember with google you are the product and with Apple you buy the product. Google cannot get any information from you that you don’t voluntarily give up. Because with google you are the product they pay Apple to have them first in the list.
Hope that clarified any misinformation in these posts.
Standard web data is obviously worth 9 billion to google and very valuable. I explained why.
So you are claiming ddg is and ad provider?
They serve ads to keep the business running but they are not an ad provider like google is.
This is their privacy policy.
“DuckDuckGo does not collect or share personal information. That is our privacy policy in a nutshell."
It’s pretty simple and straight forward.
Would like to see something to back up your
ddg isn’t buying users bank information and transaction history.
https://gizmodo.com/google-reportedly-secretly-bought-your-banking-data-an-1828341605
It’s great that google pays Apple for something a user browsing on any platform will give up for free. Isn’t it? I wish google would pay Apple more.
However as I explained google doesn’t get anything of value unless a user gives it up voluntarily. Standard web traffic has nothing in it.