It is eliminating choice. If apple is forced to be an open platform, there will not be a single product where there is 100% end to end control by the manufacturer who can make the hard decisions for the customer.
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Apple CEO Tim Cook: Sideloading Apps Would 'Destroy the Security' of the iPhone
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It is eliminating choice. If apple is forced to be an open platform, there will not be a single product where there is 100% end to end control by the manufacturer who can make the hard decisions for the customer.
Exactly I posted that a few pages back. Im sure it happened, but have never heard of it from many many years in the community. And dozens if not hundreds of tweak istalls over the years. Never 1 issue for me.
If you get stuff from legit repos/sites of course.
If you go to torrent/pirate sites, well you get what you deserved. You looked for hacked stuff and deserve the risk/consequences.
I can't fathom how people cannot understand this would be something you need to opt-in to use. The other 90-95%, whatever the number is, of non-techies literally nothing changes. There are literally zero ramifications to them.
This has to be one of the dumbest debates about tech in recent history to use an I don't want change argument; WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE IT. That is not a legit concern how other people want to use their own devices. But "I don't want it to be Android" or "buh bye go use Android" sounds like a whiny 5-year-old's argument.
Imagine if Apple listened to these types and never gave any choice or changed; iOS would still look like the original iOS firmware released too.
If Apple didn't make literally tens of billions (with a B), some sources guess $65-70 billion gross so 30% of that, I would buy their security sincerity probably a lot more; you know, not income perservation-dependent statements.
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Epic games is one developer. All other devs are still on the Play store. The reason is because the Play store gives them advantages. Maybe Apple should work to make the App Store more attractive to developers, rather than forcing it upon them. May the best App Store experience win.
I'm addressing the statement: "Hasn’t happened on Android". It has.
They have and will continue to do so. For one, they brought down the average app review time from 7-14 days to just 24 hours without asking for more money. They made it much more appealing for small businesses by reducing their cut by half. They allow all developers to use Apple Maps free of charge while big businesses pay Google billions of dollars to use Google Maps in their apps. Apple worked to comply with China's laws so that app developers just have to check the "China" box in the distribution list to release their apps while Android developers have to rewrite their apps to distribute their apps in China because Play Store and critical Google infrastructure/APIs won't work in China, you know, the largest smartphone market in the world.
They've done their work and will continue to improve the App Store. Competition won't change this a single bit.
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At this point I’m pretty sure it boils down to “but apple doesn’t want it so I don’t either.” There’s really no point in keeping the discussion ongoing when the opposing side is presenting arguments of that calibre.
I guess one way it might change for people, regardless of whether you want to 'opt-in', would be if developers pull their apps from the Apple App Store and only offer them through side loading / 3rd party app store. Wouldn't this force users to then either stop using the app, which in some cases is the only option they might have for a particular service, or actually start side loading and accepting the risks that entails?
That hasn't stopped some Devs from complaining.
Let competing app stores show up on iOS, then true competition will be had.
That’s patently false. Given the chance, lots of people pirate even one dollar apps.
No. I don't think this is why. If you ask the average "man in the street" with an Android phone where they install applications from, I'll bet you if they know the answer at all it'll be Google Play. The majority don't sideload.
I think the reason is because Google have lower entry requirements to develop and publish on their store. Apple developers require a paid-for subscription. Another possible reason is down to APIs. Most of Android is open-source, except Google's proprietary services mechanism. IOS is completely closed source, so accessing the kind of APIs malware requires is tricky.
I said *given the chance*. MP3s were pirated to an enormous extent because it was so easy. If you make it simple to pirate stuff, people WILL do it. Just look at how few people manage to make a living making open source software. RedHat crippled CentOS because people just used it in production instead of paying for RHEL. Adobe’s revenue has grown substantially since they made pirating their software much harder with Creative Cloud. The list is endless, it’s undeniable.No, it’s “patently” not
There is not a single platform that exists where "some devs" are not complaining. Feel free to name one.
And devs will still complain, guaranteed.
We can't have it because some 8 year old may mess up their mommy's phone lol
Well, Apple is trying to solve this problem for parents, wouldn’t you agree?
For parents that thinks they should allow their children free reigns, there’s always Android where they can go really wild. It’s a choice parents can make.
I’m guessing many parents chose iOS because it’s one less thing for them to worry about, wouldn’t you agree?
I’m also guessing that you don’t have much experience taking care of children needing constant attention? It can be really exhausting. You should experience it.
Yep I’ll never forget the people that scoffed at jailbreaking and sideloading apps when iPhoneOS still didn’t have an App Store.
Then Apple will have to, wait for it, COMPETE. Make it fairer for all parties and attractive to use it. Win-win for the customer.
The sideload model works everywhere and is normal. Want chrome? go to Google's site. Etc etc. I've NEVER bought anything from the Windows Store. I think maybe 2-3 apps from it maximum.
Most normal software on computers is side-loaded except in the Apple world. Even on Mac there is stuff not on the App Store; plenty. Need to file business taxes? You need Turbotax from them directly and to pay them. Apple seems to have no quarrels with that model on the Mac.
True, which is why you offer sideloading as an optional setting on the iPhone with huge scary warnings all over it so average users don't turn it on. For the developers out there, it sure would be a big deal to be able to toggle on a sideloading feature.
This is my one and only serious complaint about Apple, that they never think in terms of offering these kinds of things as user configurable options. I understand the need to simplify the user interface and stop users from having to puzzle over bizarre options scattered all over the place (Windows is a @#$% nightmare in that regard) but an advanced settings control panel buried somewhere in iOS where most users wouldn't casually stumble across it would be amazing.
This is my one and only serious complaint about Apple, that they never think in terms of offering these kinds of things as user configurable options. I understand the need to simplify the user interface and stop users from having to puzzle over bizarre options scattered all over the place (Windows is a @#$% nightmare in that regard) but an advanced settings control panel buried somewhere in iOS where most users wouldn't casually stumble across it would be amazing.
That's awfully close to victim blaming. You're saying that piracy happens because the developer didn't make software of sufficient quality?
I published a game on iOS many years ago and, despite getting good reviews and selling a number of copies, there were quite a few pirated copies out there. And you're saying I'm to blame because it didn't rise to the expectations of some people who likely don't pay for any software? Your logic is very convoluted and is just apologist nonsense for dishonest people.
That would be like cutting down part of someone fence because it blocks my view.
People would do it, but a larger majority wouldn't
Apple sees as "They wish to desgn everything" ... WHy does Apple choose to design masks themselves, while others get certified one from authorities ?
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It's not eliminating anything, stop lying 🙄🙄🙄
The hard decisions, like, How do we extract a maximum amount of money?
it's literally eliminating the only closed smart phone platform available.
If only there was a way to stop buying products I don't like. 🤔🤔🤔
can't destroy what wasn't there in the first place.