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Tim Cook as smart and versatile as he is misses the point that the customer wants 'change' in the iPhone Be it 2 screens, or no bezels that's what people are looking for.
And people don't want to wait 2 years or 3 years for that change or innovation!!!
Hopefully mr Cook or somebody in management sees this
 
Tim Cook is desperate. Prepare for the usual talking points, "Apple is as innovative as we've ever been", etc. But running Apple is like being the Governor of California. It is almost impossible to do well, unless you are someone like Steve Jobs.

Without someone like him at the helm, Apple will be unmanageable. The problem isn't that Tim Cook is a bad CEO (I don't think he is). I just think that Apple requires a very unique individual at the helm. Unfortunately that kind of person is 1 in 6 billion (give or take).
A product guy...
 
"Apple's future in China, his outlook on innovation, what's next for the iPhone, Apple Watch, and Apple services, and whether Apple is pursuing any potential acquisitions."

China: slowing, headwinds, working on resolving iTunes shutdown, still many opportunities there;
Innovation: it's a good thing, we always invest during declines and uncertainty, it will be Christmas-eve for a while yet;
What's next for phone and watch: improvements;
Services: improvements and better experience;
Acquisitions: we are a serial acquirer of companies but we don't talk about this.

But I will enjoy the iview just the same.


The answer is not China ... it's India!
 
Forstall? Extremely unlikely. For one reason.

Tim Cook and Jony. There's too much bad blood between him and Ive. For that to happen, those two has to GO.

Agreed, but another year, two or three of this and who knows who will be at the top and still standing. And even if Jony is still there, the company wouldn't be in position to deal with "bad blood."

I do think that Apple lost something very important when Scott Forstall was released. Some people hate on the guy for pushing skeuomorphic interface elements, which is misguided. It was never the concept of skeuomorphic interfaces that was a problem, it was the ugly, poorly designed implementations that were. Skm can be done nicely, they just weren't doing it.

I don't think Apple will die (as the refrain often goes), but their arrogance eventually will.
 
Tim stop talking to the press, unless you release a new product. Go back to the office and stay there until you fix the messy and outdated product line up.

To the Apple Board:

Replace your activist and press craving Tim Cook with a CEO who stays in a office working hard to make sure amazing products are released on time, instead of traveling the world and preaching about global warming and human rights.
 
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Tim stop talking to the press, unless you release and new product. Go back to the office and stay there until you fix the messy and outdated product line up.

To the Apple Board:

Replace your activist and press craving CEO with a person who stays in a office working hard to make sure amazing products are released on time.

instead of traveling the world and talking about global warming and gay rights.
Yeah, not quite what the CEO job entails.
 
( some people = Jony Ive )- everyone loved the previous look. Forestall was fired for not apologizing about maps. Tim and Jony care more about being politically correct and their open heart image then keeping extraordinary people working at Apple. Their politically correct image takes a first seat over Steve's principle of functionality and design
 
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( some people = Jony Ive )- everyone loved the previous look. Forestall was fired for not apologizing about maps. Tim and Jony care more about being politically correct and their open heart image then keeping extraordinary people.
What previous look? The iOS look before iOS 7? The one that tons and tons of people on here and other places kept on talking about and getting upset about being dated and needed to be changed even before iOS 7?
 
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no one can't stand skinny fonts on a bright and transparent background. Jony Ive has no clue about software or software interface design. He should stick to product hardware only but his ego is contaminating everything
 
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( some people = Jony Ive )- everyone loved the previous look. Forestall was fired for not apologizing about maps. Tim and Jony care more about being politically correct and their open heart image then keeping extraordinary people working at Apple. Their politically correct image takes a first seat over Steve's principle of functionality and design
Totally agree. Loved the previous look.
 
( some people = Jony Ive )- everyone loved the previous look. Forestall was fired for not apologizing about maps. Tim and Jony care more about being politically correct and their open heart image then keeping extraordinary people working at Apple. Their politically correct image takes a first seat over Steve's principle of functionality and design

Scott was not fired due to "Maps." It was much more. It was Tim's "first" Big Mistake. It was political, and Tim is currently reaping the rewards of the seeds he has sown. Eddie is killing just about all of Apple's Multimedia. SJ kept him very close and on a tight leash for VERY good reasons. As soon as SJ was gone Tim started purging, and putting his "friends" in place. Regardless of ability. Making Ives Chief of Design was literally to him anyway, being Crowned King. IMO, he is consumed with the Car project with Newsome. Everything else is an afterthought. Even at 60% of revenue.

Just mind boggling. The current Executive Day Care Team has drank so much of their own Kool Aid they no longer relate to the customs base.

If your heavy into AAPL get out. If your ETF is heavy on AAPL get out. This is going to be a Long slide. :apple:
 
iPhone is a fashion fad for most, including grandmas, grandpas and little teenage girls. A real man doesn't own an iPhone.
Trump supporters don't use iPhones, because iPhones are not the real deal. Trump himself uses one, but his supporters don't.
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Scott was not fired due to "Maps." It was much more. It was Tim's "first" Big Mistake. It was political, and Tim is currently reaping the rewards of the seeds he has sown. Eddie is killing just about all of Apple's Multimedia. SJ kept him very close and on a tight leash for VERY good reasons. As soon as SJ was gone Tim started purging, and putting his "friends" in place. Regardless of ability. Making Ives Chief of Design was literally to him anyway, being Crowned King. IMO, he is consumed with the Car project with Newsome. Everything else is an afterthought. Even at 60% of revenue.

Just mind boggling. The current Executive Day Care Team has drank so much of their own Kool Aid they no longer relate to the customs base.

If your heavy into AAPL get out. If your ETF is heavy on AAPL get out. This is going to be a Long slide. :apple:
This is literally true. When I walk around Apple's HQ these days, I never see Ives around. The eye-bolts where SJ used to attach his leash are still in the walls, but Jony is not chained to them.

On my frequent trips to the secret lab where Apple is designing the Car, Jony is almost always there. And they let him run free! The Kool Aid at the Car lab tastes better, so maybe that's the reason. They haven't changed the water filter at HQ in over 8 months.
 
He's on the defensive. The stock is dropping like a rock, while Google, Facebook, and Amazon are reaching to the stratosphere.

We all know the next iPhone won't be "something we can't live without". I think Tim knows he screwed up.

Jony Ive has too much free reign I feel. Their native apps are a mess and barely functional, hence why nearly everyone moves to the last home screen in a folder.

You see with Google, their native apps are completely functional. Gmail does more out of the box. Maps is more accurate and complete. Google search stomps Siri. Google Photos just works without me lifting a finger. I could go on and on about how Apple makes apps look pretty, but really don't function as well as they can for their users.

Here's what Apple needs to do:

Focus on software and robust services.

Make iTunes lightweight and useful again by making it only a media content player. Separate the "stores" into another unified app. Anything I buy should just appear in the respective apps without me having to do anything.

Reduce your product lines. Do better upkeep on existing ones (ie Macs). 2 iPads and 3 iPhones in less than a year, but I can't get a Macbook with Skylake in 2016 and have to settle for a 2014 CPU at today's prices? That's a joke Apple.

Buy Sonos. Begin focusing on completing the home. It should complement Apple TV as the hub for your home's tech. Apple TV should be more than just a streaming device.

Buy Fitbit. Apple can design them better and have them more functional at price points that appeases everyone. Not everyone wants a $500 watch that you need to "upgrade".

Buy GoPro. Ya it's a niche market. Make it a hobby. You're a mature company. Not everything has to be a hit. Apple can do a better job marketing this to the right people.

Face the facts that your iPhones are beginning to be too high in price. My 128GB iPhone 6S Plus was $949 or something close to that. I didn't want to pay that much, but this is a 4 year device for me. iOS 10 will be the latest ioS version I could use probably. When it's time for me to upgrade, I know I can get the same functions, if not more in a device for half the cost - especially in four years.
 
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Technical innovation at Apple has become a thing of the past. It's been replaced by incremental evolution, where the increments are dampening into more window dressing than real improvements. This will likely continue so long as Cook is at the helm.
 
This is literally true. When I walk around Apple's HQ these days, I never see Ives around. The eye-bolts where SJ used to attach his leash are still in the walls, but Jony is not chained to them.

On my frequent trips to the secret lab where Apple is designing the Car, Jony is almost always there. And they let him run free! The Kool Aid at the Car lab tastes better, so maybe that's the reason. They haven't changed the water filter at HQ in over 8 months.

Too funny. Very "Innovative." ;) I'll bet you're still heavy in AAPL also. :rolleyes:
 
Sounds like damage control time even it does seem like a routine schedule for him.

I doubt things would have been better with Jobs - plenty of articles were discussing what Apple copied from Android and everything else at the time, Steve was too busy scapegoating Flash (since it's hard to compete with free Flash games when they cost $0.99 or $4.99 on an iPhone), Steve couldn't keep doing things with other peoples' ideas forever*...

* something that "great artist" did from the early days, right down to Xerox and their GUI because Jobs saw how people didn't want to deal with plain text CLI-based systems and wanted simplistic clickable interfaces that require more system resources and technical loopholes in the codebehind because people want things dumbed down... am not saying he didn't have a vision. His innovations still required someone else's actual inventiveness. Without inventors, he would have been as SOL... but how does one invent? Can one wake up every morning and say "Today I will invent!" and then, zingablingie, invent a dozen things and then repeat the process every hour on the hour forever? Nope. Life's a little more complex, but don't worry, "it just works" because "it's magic". His sales tactics were the most grating, a style continued today, which says a lot more about the company - unfortunately. Especially when the CEOs that make and encourage people to buy things that dumb them down with then turn around in another article to call them "dumb". No, the companies are not the sole problem with many of today's problems. But to absolve one's self of all wrongdoing because it's always the customers' fault for whatever reason - that's neither fair nor right. Don't make "Angry Birds" and cajole people to buy it, boast on the amount of profit made, then bash people for using the product.
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I've been saying for years Tim Cook should be fired

But for which reasons?

While not perfect and I've griped on this, it's also true he provided something of a solution to MacBook owners (2010-2012 models, as I recall) who had GPU chips go faulty over time. Ideally there would have been better solutions but I don't know things from his POV, either. As a SMB owner, I've had to go back from scratch and take the cut. But the business I ran wasn't the same sort of hardware manufacturing, nor on the scale involved... but customers do work harder to rake in their money, especially these days... I could sit here for hours discussing relevant tangents on both sides of the fence. It's never as simple as either side wants it to be. :( Even the reasons you're thinking of but did not say at the time of that post quoted.
 
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I doubt things would have been better with Jobs - plenty of articles were discussing what Apple copied from Android and everything else at the time, Steve was too busy scapegoating Flash (since it's hard to compete with free Flash games when they cost $0.99 or $4.99 on an iPhone), Steve couldn't keep doing things with other peoples' ideas forever*...

* something that "great artist" did from the early days, right down to Xerox and their GUI because Jobs saw how people didn't want to deal with plain text CLI-based systems and wanted simplistic clickable interfaces that require more system resources and technical loopholes in the codebehind because people want things dumbed down... am not saying he didn't have a vision. His innovations still required someone else's actual inventiveness. Without inventors, he would have been as SOL... but how does one invent? Can one wake up every morning and say "Today I will invent!" and then, zingablingie, invent a dozen things and then repeat the process every hour on the hour forever? Nope. Life's a little more complex, but don't worry, "it just works" because "it's magic". His sales tactics were the most grating, a style continued today, which says a lot more about the company - unfortunately. Especially when the CEOs that make and encourage people to buy things that dumb them down with then turn around in another article to call them "dumb". No, the companies are not the sole problem with many of today's problems. But to absolve one's self of all wrongdoing because it's always the customers' fault for whatever reason - that's neither fair nor right. Don't make "Angry Birds" and cajole people to buy it, boast on the amount of profit made, then bash people for using the product.
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But for which reasons?

While not perfect and I've griped on this, it's also true he provided something of a solution to MacBook owners (2010-2012 models, as I recall) who had GPU chips go faulty over time. Ideally there would have been better solutions but I don't know things from his POV, either. As a SMB owner, I've had to go back from scratch and take the cut. But the business I ran wasn't the same sort of hardware manufacturing, nor on the scale involved... but customers do work harder to rake in their money, especially these days... I could sit here for hours discussing relevant tangents on both sides of the fence. It's never as simple as either side wants it to be. :( Even the reasons you're thinking of but did not say at the time of that post quoted.

Steve, from what I know of him, had the ability to both inspire people to be inventive while simultaneously scaring the crap out of them. :) He did a good job of directing talent to where it did the most good. He was an industrial strategist who thought several steps ahead: better than most. I am not sure Tim is thinking far enough ahead or not.
 
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