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Cook has taken Apple to lengths Jobs never did.

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"Jim, we never talk about specific plans for our future products.." etc. etc.
Something something stuff in pipeline something pull string and see where it goes

MAGICAL

WE STILL LOVE STEVE JOBS

I have nice hair
 
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As long as iphones sell opposite of Trump steaks you'll be waiting a long time.

I think the 'iPhone Sales Pause" may be the beginning of a downturn for that product and by association Apple. Phones are getting too expensive and you can get better phones for a lot less cost.
 
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Every time Tim says "pipeline" or "roadmap", take a drink.

I think the problem with Cook is he's been well coached by the Marketing org. He knows the buzz words to say and the sentences to speak without saying anything. He's not got the charisma of Steve and sounds like a bit of a droid. That's why guys like Eddy Cue and Craig F. are so special to Apple.

It's amazing. No it's not.
 
I think the 'iPhone Sales Pause" may be the beginning of a downturn for that product and by association Apple. Phones are getting too expensive and you can get better phones for a lot less cost.

What if you don't like android or windows phones. What options are left?
 
I'm kind of surprised that Tim goes on this show. Jim seems like a nice guy on a personal level but his show seems kinda like a joke with all the gimmicks and the way Jim acts on the show. Just me thinking aloud.
 
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We designed the most amazing, magic pipeline.

Seriously, I hope that he actually says something and not only self-praise.

C'mon, you know that CEOs of megabillionbucks companies are not supposed to say anything earth shattering on a TV show. If Apple had something of material import to say, they'd have said it at the earnings announcment.

Whatever Tim Cook says tonight on Cramer's show, people can read stuff into it, or discount it, or just ignore it the same as one would for anything anyone else --including Cramer-- says on Cramer's show. To do anything else with it, like rush to sell or buy shares, would be nuts. Cramer's gig barely makes the cut for infotainment but it has an audience so it's a reasonable move for Cook to agree to show up after the release of Apple's earnings data. Gotta keep the brand out there. There will be commentary elsewhere in media afterwards and it's all free publicity...
 
Thanks for your opinion, but I disagree. For the record, I wasn't disparaging against Jobs. Jobs has been a factor in Apple's timeline and relevance for Apple's upbringing. But Cook and Jobs are two separate CEO's. They both have had different lengths where Apple is today. I view Jobs left a legacy and Cook still has been promising with the Airpods and the Apple Watch. I agree Apple has made some Mistakes with recent launches with the Airpods and the Apple Watch, but that hasn't short sighted their overall success with both of those products.

I see Jobs as a visionary, where Cook is more of a numbers/statistical leader who knows every facet of the Company. I do think Cook has a vision where he believes the iPad is heading to be a PC replacement, which not everyone agree's with. But overall, some
Products have not seen updates as regularly
As they could have, placing emphasis on the iPad/iPhone/Apple Watch, etc.

Overall, Cook may not be liked, but you can't deny how the company has made progress under his leadership and I can appreciate his take on the Comoany and his determination. I think this will be an interesting year for hardware and I have no complaints about Cooks leadership. I understand we differ though and I see your points from a historical standpoint.


You can like Cook. That's fine. He's done no harm to AAPL stock for sure. But that wasn't the crux of what you wrote about. You explicitly said Cook did more for Apple than Jobs did. OK -- exactly how? What has he done to take Apple to the, excuse the cliche, "next level." Apple is definetly a wealthier company now than 5 years ago --- no way to prove Apple wouldn't have these cash reserves were Jobs still around either. So fundamentally what has Cook done that exceeds everything Jobs ever did in terms of product development and being a game changer?
 
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What if you don't like android or windows phones. What options are left?

Learn to like Android. Hard to argue when a $400 phone does the same stuff nearly as reliably as an $800 phone. That extra $400 buys a lot of extra stuff. The iPhone 6+ ($800+) I had is not $400 better than the $400 ZTE I just bought. In fact the $400 phone has some features the iPhone could learn to implement.
 
Let me guess he will make statement such as "The Mac is an important part of our business. We have great Macs in pipeline." Then months from now they will still be selling the same models we have today at the same price.
 
Craig will replace him soon.

Not until Tim and the gang get another billion or two....

They truly deserve it, for all the incredible innovation they have brought to Apple, including the soon to be unveiled Apple car (Project Titan) and for the $3+ Billion purchase of Beats which turned Apple into the coolest brand ever!

And all the fantastic Apple Watch band options!
 
This is total PR control from Apple due to their stock taking a hit.

I bet they flew Crammer out on a private jet and paid a ton of money just to get this TV slot.
 
What is a shame is that people actually see this as a positive. I really wish Cook would just stop talking and start doing. Just impress us with releases. Don't really need much else, because everything else is just fodder.
 

Sad reality is the iPhone is absorbing almost all of Apples resources. They have hit this cadence and cannot skip a single year now. As soon as they do not release an iPhone one year analysts will say Apple is doomed, share price will drop through the floor, calls will go out for Tim Cook to resign by the media.

And as smart phones have become so refined it becomes less clear and less obvious what needs to be done to make them better.

In the past it was obvious. They were slow, we need to make them faster. The screens looked poor, we need better screens. The camera takes photos like a potato, we need a better camera.

Now though there is very little difference between an iPhone 6 and iPhone 7 in how it feels even though the iPhone 7 is 2.5-3x faster in CPU and Graphics. The displays all look fantastic and the cameras take great photos regardless of what device you purchase.

And so without these obvious areas that need attention it is becoming a case of diminishing returns. Apples R&D budget has never been bigger than it is now and it has more than doubled under Tim Cooks tenure as CEO. Yet at the same time they are not refreshing more than 20% of their product range every year. 1/5th.

I have mentioned on this forum before but you guys remember that 60 minutes piece on Apple in I think 2016. At one point they were talking to one of the people involved in designing the iPhones camera system and he proudly exclaimed to the interviewer that Apple has 900 engineers working on just the iPhone camera.

It was so shocking even to the interviewer that he clarified "900 engineers on JUST the camera?". You can look at that two ways, one wow that is incredible they spend so much time to make the camera better for us. Or you can look at it like that is 900 engineers working to improve the Camera 1-2% when they could have spent that engineering effort updating 5 or more Macintosh computers, iPods and iPads.

I really feel that there is going to come a day when the iPhone completely fails to impress and Apple is going to be stuck between a rock and a hard place having put all their engineering efforts into the latest model for it to be a giant flop and they have no backup plan no other products ready in the rafters.

We've already seen that with the Mac Pro for which they apologised to their own customers for not updating it for three years and for designing something that cannot easily be upgraded with the meagre quantity of engineers they have working under the Macintosh group.
 
Heck, no! Leave Craig doing what he's good at.

I actually think Eddy Cue will be Cook's successor.

Oh hell no.

The Apple CEO doesn't need to be a single-handed product visionary, but they do need to have good taste. An aesthetic sensibility. Steve had that. Tim has that (though not to the same degree). Eddy wears giant bowling shirts and tells corny jokes. Let him be the dealmaker and biz dev guy that execs from other companies love to have a good time with. I can't imagine him being the final yes/no decision on products.
 
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Jim Cramer, the same guy that urged everyone to buy Investment Bank stocks right before all the investment banks went bankrupt.

It amazes me that CNBC still employs this tool. It just shows me that CNBC has nothing worth watching.

Actually Cramer is good to watch. For us normal people, it is the only way to see how retail Wall Street advisors actually work. Understanding that is fundamental to investing in todays market. While its true that most people that rely on retail wall street investment advise lose in the short run, it does explain certain a lot of things that are done to generate commissions. But, yeh, to follow religiously is a good way to part with a lot of money as Cramer is a self fulfilling way for Cramer to make money.
 
This is total PR control from Apple due to their stock taking a hit.

I bet they flew Crammer out on a private jet and paid a ton of money just to get this TV slot.

what hit? it wasn't down that much today. Call me when its back down under $130 a share
 
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