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Good news is it takes a long time to get out of it, and the final step is after the next election.
The optics of the Paris Accord is rather important too though, even if the full "exit" won't happen for years. A great deal of the impetus for the US' role in this was to take a leadership role, and try to nudge other countries (especially the developing ones) to adopt decent policies. Domestically, the administration's actions (including this) all but dampen the growth of the clean energy industry for no good reason. I see where you're going with this, but I have a difficult time not viewing this as setting back innovation/growth for years.

trump is right. we don't know who is actually getting $400 billion dollars. thats too much money. its time to stop American citizens from paying for everything
Do you think FEMA operates via magic? Also, any complaints about dollar figures can pretty much be rebutted by - WALL.
 
Good news is it takes a long time to get out of the Paris Climate Agreement, and the final step is after the next election.

Countries can't withdraw until three years after the Paris Agreement went into effect.
The Paris Agreement entered into force on November 4, 2016; so this means the US would have to stay with it until November 2019. After that, the rules mandate a one-year notice period, which would mean a withdrawal in late 2020; after the next presidential election on November 3, 2020.

Today, the Paris Climate Agreement is polling at over 70% in favor with voters (indicating Republicans are split on it, with Democrats and Independents strongly in favor), and well over 50% in favor among the whole US population. This will be a campaign issue in 2020, and Trump has set himself and his party up to be on the wrong side of it.
This is false. One, it's not a treaty ratified by congress. Two, we are a sovereign nation and other countries can't force us to do anything.
 
So everyone is upset over this, what difference will pulling out actually make on the environment ? The planet has been changing climates for 1000's of years, some of you people act like your mere existence means everything should stop changing now.
How is the fact the earth is always changing in a predictable cycle the same as earth is rapidly changing in a non natural way.
 
Great move by Trump. Now lets go after those epa nazis and their ridiculous demands for our automakers.

Yea, I want America to be great again, like in these pictures pre-EPA:

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New Jersey, 1973

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Virginia, 1974. Looks like a health job with a long life expectancy.

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Oil slick around Lady Liberty

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Burning old car batteries in Texas 1972. Must smell like America greatness.

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Maryland 1973

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Yea, this looks like a good world to live in.
 
This is false. One, it's not a treaty ratified by congress. Two, we are a sovereign nation and other countries can't force us to do anything.

Article VI of the US Constitution says otherwise: "This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land;"
 
Article VI of the US Constitution says otherwise: "This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land;"
Pretty stupid and the price is billions going to other countries
 
If you think the refugee problem is bad now think how bad it will be when a billion people are displaced due to rising sea levels and record droughts.

Terrible decision to withdraw from the Paris Accord.
 



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Apple CEO Tim Cook this afternoon sent an email to Apple employees expressing his disappointment with U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to pull out of the Paris climate deal.

In the email, which was shared by BuzzFeed, Cook says that while he tried to persuade Trump to keep the United States in the agreement, "it wasn't enough." Cook goes on to reiterate Apple's commitment to reducing its environmental impact through renewable energy and an eventual closed-loop supply chain.Cook, who also shared his disappointment in a tweet, was one of many tech leaders who attempted to persuade Trump not to pull the U.S. out of the Paris climate agreement earlier this week, but on Thursday, the president announced that the United States will indeed withdraw from the accord. Since the announcement, tech company CEOs have been speaking out against the decision while pledging to continue to fight climate change.


Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said leaving the accord "puts our children's future at risk," while Google CEO Sundar Pichai said he was disappointed with the decision. Tesla CEO Elon Musk, who said yesterday he had done all he could to advise the president to remain in the accord, made good on a promise to leave the advisory councils he served on.


Disney CEO Bob Iger also announced that he's resigned from the President's Council following the decision, while Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff said the company would double its efforts to fight climate change. Many other major companies, including IBM, GE, Microsoft, and Intel have also spoken out against the move.

Note: Due to the political nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Politics, Religion, Social Issues forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook: Trump's Decision to Withdraw From Paris Accord 'Was Wrong for Our Planet'


I agree with Tim Cook. Glad Apple is keeping with its plan.


I also agree with some of the comments here that we want more from Apple products.

Apple please give us more for the premium price that we pay. I think Apple can take home a little less profit.

Same for making computers and Phones here in the U.S., yes it will cost more but could cost the same if Apple just adjusts its profit margin.
 
Pretty stupid and the price is billions going to other countries

You're referring to what will happen if we withdraw? I agree.

Now we're with Syria as being the only country opposed to this treaty. Great company to keep.

And China will now be the leader in the world addressing climate change, and point to this as evidence that the US is no longer in charge and is in decline.
 
Article VI of the US Constitution says otherwise: "This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land;"
Congress didn't vote on it. Only Obama did. Ergo it is not a treaty. That's why it's called Paris Climate Accord and not Paris Climate Treaty.
 
You're referring to what will happen if we withdraw? I agree.

Now we're with Syria as being the only country opposed to this treaty. Great company to keep.

And China will now be the leader in the world addressing climate change, and point to this as evidence that the US is no longer in charge and is in decline.
No. I'm referring to the money the U.S has to pay
 
Thank you President Trump. This was the best thing that the people of our country could have asked for. The ones opposed to it obviously have a liberal education and are clueless. Keep up the great work!!!
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And he knows what he's talking about. :)
Yessiree Bob.
.@POTUS "I was elected by voters of Pittsburgh, not Paris. I promised I wld exit or renegotiate any deal which fails to serve US interests"
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Congress didn't vote on it. Only Obama did. Ergo it is not a treaty. That's why it's called Paris Climate Accord and not Paris Climate Treaty.

If its so unenforceable, then what's the harm in staying in? Worst case, nothing changes. Best case, we improve the environment. If we can't be forced to do anything we don't want to do, why not just stay in it?
 
Article VI of the US Constitution says otherwise: "This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land;"

Until you remember Article II, Section 2, Clause 2.
 
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