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Privacy in the corporate world is a sliding scale.

If a shady company is a 0 and a company completely committed to privacy is a 10, then Apple is around a 5, Microsoft is a 4 and Google is a -10.

If you want complete privacy, write your own device drivers. Everything else must exist in reality.
 
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How can Cook say this stuff without cracking up? How many scam and IP-infringing apps has Apple allowed to stay on their platform because it was making them cash? Blindly trusting apps on the App Store is a recipe for getting your money stolen.
 
"The main thing we're focused on in the App Store is keeping our focus on privacy and security"
Nope. The main thing they're focusing is their bottom line.
This is why I don’t understand the “Apple has a monopoly“ argument. If Apple somehow owned the patent on the concept of “smartphone,” and all other companies had to make early-2000s-style flip phones, and thus the App Store on iOS on iPhones were the only platform for third-party apps as we know them, then, yeah, I’d agree that Apple has a monopoly.
You don't have to have a patent to have a monopoly. And while I agree they don't have monopoly, they are de facto operating one of the two or three relevant platforms in the market by anti-competitive means.

That's why they will, slowly but surely, be regulated in their policies and operation of the App Store. Mobile apps on smartphones are becoming too important to two or three gatekeepers control the markets as they please.

Personally, I don't understand the "As long as there's at least one or two competitors, Apple aren't a monopoly, so there should be zero regulation on them". It's not as if competition law adn regulation would only apply to monopolies in the strict sense of the word.
 
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On one hand, I like how apple is handling the App Store safety and feel reasonable secure while using apps downloaded from the store.

On the other hand, Apple has a “high” MORAL standard and rejected many apps (but legal) to onboard and I like it to change?. But if the rules are finally bent, who will be there to tell me if an app is safe or malicious? Even worse, what if an major app simply choose to withdraw from App Store so they can collect more data without having to comply with the revealing policy? Yes, I mean Meta.
If Apple were really concerned about privacy, they’d provide the option for fuzzed or blank data for all their privacy-related APIs, like they do for HealthKit, on a per-app basis. That way your location would be whatever you say it is, or if blank where your IP geolocation says you are plus a random walk; your device ID is randomised for every app; file, photo, contacts, etc. access is restricted to only those items you choose; and so on. For things like notifications too they could make it so apps can’t tell if you’re seeing notifications.
 
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If Apple were really concerned about privacy, they’d provide the option for fuzzed or blank data for all their privacy-related APIs, like they do for HealthKit, on a per-app basis. That way your location would be whatever you say it is, or if blank where your IP geolocation says you are plus a random walk; your device ID is randomised for every app; file, photo, contacts, etc. access is restricted to only those items you choose; and so on. For things like notifications too they could make it so apps can’t tell if you’re seeing notifications.
Excellent strawman. But I don’t believe your definition of privacy aligns with Apples. You can get those features by jailbreaking.
 
Excellent strawman. But I don’t believe your definition of privacy aligns with Apples. You can get those features by jailbreaking.
That’s the most privacy-preserving way of letting you refuse to give data to an app without letting it know you’re refusing to give it data, and would allow things like third party app stores without privacy problems. Of course, that would cost Apple money instead of making them money, so naturally they don’t want to do that.
 
That’s the most privacy-preserving way of letting you refuse to give data to an app without letting it know you’re refusing to give it data, and would allow things like third party app stores without privacy problems. Of course, that would cost Apple money instead of making them money, so naturally they don’t want to do that.
The above is not the mentality of apple as I’ve observed them. Apple doesn’t engage in deceitful practices from a “fooling app” point of view. Don’t want an app to know your location then deny access. Going this route would only cost apple money due to lost credibility.

Or better yet, don’t install any apps.
 
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Exactly. Action speaks louder than words. Google reduced their commission to 15% (and 10% for music streaming services) across the board.

If the profit is secondary, Apple should reduce the commission immediately.
Who’s to say the profit was secondary to Google in this very resent move?!

The math makes sense. 3-5x more users on Android, avoid the fee argument by undercuttting Apple and Apple looks bad while Google looks good. But the math for profits is still there in Google Play Store. Without their services you ain’t getting Jack sh** that fully works.
 
If unreviewed apps can bypass privacy restrictions that easily, then iOS must be one of the least secure and private technology platforms in history.

It isn't, of course, as we all realise this is simply a straw man erected by Tim to defend his App Store rent extraction. But it's amusing to realise the best argument they have for the status quo is to argue that their own hardware and software are so riddled with security flaws that they need a manual app review process to avoid rampant exploitation.
By your very words you then realize opening up the AppStore would turn it into a complete disaster.
 


Apple CEO Tim Cook was today asked about some of the regulatory issues that Apple is facing with the App Store, and he said that Apple is keeping its focus on privacy and security. Apple is facing potential regulatory changes that would force it to open up the iPhone to other app stores or alternate ways of loading apps on the iPhone.

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Cook went on to say that Apple is "very focused in discussing privacy and security of the App Store with regulators and legislators."

Apple recently came out largely victorious in its antitrust lawsuit with Epic Games, with the judge in that case ruling that Apple does not have a monopoly. Apple was, however, told to allow developers to put links to outside websites and alternate payment options in their apps.

Apple was given a deadline in December to make this change, but Apple has appealed for more time and has asked to avoid making changes until the entire case has come to a conclusion.

Back in June, U.S. lawmakers introduced antitrust legislation that would require Apple to make sweeping changes to the App Store, which Apple will undoubtedly fight against.

Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook: We're Focused on Maintaining Privacy and Security of the App Store
I DON’T GIVE A CRAP WHAT APPLE DOES WITH ITS OWN MONOPOLY APP STORE.

This is not what it’s about, it’s about people’s choice and control over their device and what better example than.

1. Allowing other App stores on iOS

2. People can “sideload” on their device, which to desktop and laptop users is called downloading.
 
I DON’T GIVE A CRAP WHAT APPLE DOES WITH ITS OWN MONOPOLY APP STORE.

This is not what it’s about, it’s about people’s choice and control over their device and what better example than.

1. Allowing other App stores on iOS

2. People can “sideload” on their device, which to desktop and laptop users is called downloading.
You can do whatever you want with your device, just don't expect Apple to help you. If you buy an iphone and believe you can sideload without jailbreaking, and you find that is not so, you have 14 days (or more in certain scenarios) to return it. Don't blame Apple because a device you bought doesn't conform to your requirements.
 
I basically agree on the goal. But not on the way Apple enforces restrictions. Apple should put all of their own apps in the App Store as well, following their own regulations and restrictions, so that developers can compete with Apple products as well and/or benefit from the same private API and backdoor Apple allows itself to use, forcing Apple to make those secure as well. Only that way developers can make great products, competing with for example Safari, the Finder, GateKeeper etc. To do this, the AppStore should become a *separate* legal entity. Everybody with an app should follow that AppStore's rules and regulations, including Apple. No exceptions.
 
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