Apple-Certified Third-Party Lightning to USB-C Cables Expected Early Next Year

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    Apple-certified Lightning to USB-C cables should be available from select third-party accessory makers starting early next year.

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    Last week, Apple informed members of its Made for iPhone or "MFi" licensing program that Lightning to USB-C cables for charging and syncing are now permitted to be manufactured. These cables require a new Lightning connector with part number C94, which Made for iPhone program members can now order.

    Apple is selling the new Lightning connector to eligible hardware manufacturers for $2.88 per, and it is estimated to ship in six weeks, according to documentation shared with MacRumors by Hong Kong website ChargerLab.

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    This means that third-party accessory makers enrolled in the Made for iPhone program, such as Anker, Aukey, Belkin, and Incipio, should have the part necessary to create MFi-certified Lightning to USB-C cables by mid-January and, allowing time for production, could be available to purchase by February or March.

    A Lightning to USB-C cable is required to fast charge the iPhone 8 and newer with an 18W-plus power adapter. Otherwise, the new C94 connector is expected to provide a maximum of 15W of power with a standard power adapter.

    Apple is currently the only retailer of certified Lightning to USB-C cables at a cost of $19 for the one-meter option and $35 for two-meters in the United States. The one-meter cable was originally $25, but it received a price cut in November 2016 alongside some of Apple's other USB-C adapters and cables.

    The biggest advantage to third-party Lightning to USB-C cables is that many will likely be significantly less expensive than Apple's own, while still meeting Apple performance standards under the Made for iPhone program. Many third-party options will likely have more durable designs too, such as a braided cable.

    Apple first informed its Made for iPhone program members about its plans to allow third-party Lightning to USB-C cables earlier this year.

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  2. jayducharme macrumors 68040

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    I never realized that Apple sold its own parts to the Made for iPhone manufacturers. So evidently the only thing that the Mfi companies make is the cable itself. Or do they make the USB-C connector too?
     
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    I've had a TB MBP for over 2 years, Apple didn't give me a free cord, so basically on top of my $2.5k+laptop they needed to steal $29 from me

    Edit: (CAD $)
     
  4. tromboneaholic Suspended

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    That's why there is a shortage, because Apple has to make enough for themselves before they have enough to sell to third parties - at least according to John Gruber...
     
  5. Neepman macrumors 6502

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    Another chance to drop another hundred or two for all new cables every 10 years. Life is good.
     
  6. BeyondtheTech macrumors 68020

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    Just in time for the next year's iPhone to be USB-C...
     
  7. synergize macrumors member

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    Apple is a master at planned obsolescence, this provides them a continuous income stream. If you want to use Apple products you pay the price or you move on.
     
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  9. compete12 macrumors member

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    So, let me get this straight...
    MacBook Pros have solely used USB-C ports for the last 2 years and you still need a dongle for these new $1000 iPhones because they ship with the old USB cable?
    Apple makes me want to turn everything off and go to a beach.
     
  10. lederermc macrumors 6502

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    Ridiculous... just us one of the many USB-A-lightning cords you must already have PLUS a $10.00 Adapter from Amazon (Or $19 from Apple) that you must already have if you own any USB 3.0 or 3.1 Gen 1 drives. I so really connect my iPhone to my modern MBP that a dedicated cable is a frivolous cable.
     
  11. xnu macrumors 6502

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    The only type of usb cable i could get to work with the New iPad Pro was an Anker Cable. I tried many adapters and configurations of usb cables, even Apples USB adapter. An Apple USB C to USB A cable would be great.
     
  12. adamjackson macrumors 65816

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    MFI (iPhone & iPod) programs are 15 years old programs now and they involve

    1. Apple sells the Lightning / 30-Pin connector
    2. Manufacture pays apple 10% of the sales price for every thing they sell (can't remember if it's gross or net)
    3. Apple considers Apple Store placement only for accessory makers in the MFI program so that's incentive for some to participate

    Here's a searchable list of MFI companies - https://mfi.apple.com/MFiWeb/getAPS

    There are a lot of non-MFI cables out there but buy at your own risk. I have no issue buying cables off Amazon but I always search the list first to make sure they're MFI certified.
     
  13. mikethemartian macrumors regular

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    I assume they control that one part because it has circuitry that identifies the cable as an authorized Apple part?
     
  14. 827538 macrumors 65816

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    I wonder if this means future iPhones will still use Lightning. I was really hoping for an all USB-C setup.
     
  15. Neepman macrumors 6502

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    A USB-C connected device going in and out of linty pockets is a disaster waiting to happen.
     
  16. OLDGUYWITHAHIFI macrumors regular

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    Always love the tough talkin' can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen philosophy. If enough people complain about planned obsolescence, and it becomes a well known talking point that will affect sales, Apple will change.... Eventually.

    In the meantime, get back on that saddle and hang on cowboy. More dongles are a comin'.
     
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    This just confirms that the only reason for Apple to keep around the Lightning connector is to make licensing fees off Mfi and sell these parts. Frustrating to use one cable for iPhone / iPad / AirPods and another for iPad Pro / MacBook.
     
  19. jent macrumors 6502a

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    I'm a big Apple fan but I too have to call out these strange decisions. If Apple is killing off USB-A in favor of USB-C, they need to start including USB-C cables with their new products, and certifying third-party cables.
     
  20. AirunJae macrumors regular

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    No, that would not be the only reason. Apple likes to control the whole stack so that they can make sure that a consistent product/experience is delivered to the consumer, which is why the MFi program exists. I'd imagine that while the fees are nice, they probably don't heavily factor into Apple's decisions about charging ports. I do agree though that continued use of Lightning could be a nuisance to some and I wouldn't mind if everything was on USB-C. I will also throw in that I understand why Apple might be reticent to make the iPhone USB-C, given the lack of consistent charging/data properties amongst the various USB-C types.
     
  21. tromboneaholic Suspended

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    Gruber suggested it was also to control things like battery cases that could cause interference with reception.
     
  22. synergize macrumors member

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    Sometimes this helps me deal with Apple:

    Old MacDONGLE had a farm
    E-I-E-I-O

    And on his farm he had a dongle
    E-I-E-I-O

    With a dongle here
    And a dongle there

    Here a dongle, there a dongle
    Everywhere a freaking dongle

    Old MacDonGLE had a farm
    E-I-E-I-O

    Try it, it's good therapy, but if you cannot get the song out of your head, don't blame me, blame the (Mac)dongles.
     
  23. bpeeps macrumors 68030

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    Finally. Can't wait to buy a nice Anker or Monoprice braided cable. I loathe Apple's cables with every fiber of my being.
     
  24. Kabeyun macrumors 68000

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    BMTI. Perfect timing.
     
  25. 2GoldFish macrumors member

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    MFi Cables = Last a long time
    Non MFi Cables = Last a couple of months at most

    Definitely worth while spending an extra couple of dollars on MFi cables.
     

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