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Apple Challenges 'Unprecedented' €500M EU Fine Over App Store Steering Rules
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That’s true, my bad. Micro-USB and then USBC is what I should have said.
Oh they have opened iPhone to third party. Without third party apps in the App Store, iPhone would be far less successful. EU is just levelling the field a little bit.
...except your only viable alternative was Google's Android ecosystem/Play store which may be a bit more open but has a whole stack of it's own dominant-position-abuse issues and is also receiving attention from the EU.
Antitrust cases against Google by the European Union - Wikipedia
Or if you're talking about PCs/Laptops/Tablets, there's always Microsoft, who also have something of a history with the EU and other regulatory bodies...
You’re getting that.
So you’ve never downloaded a third-party software from Apple’s App Store?
That was a problematic decision in that it inserts a bureaucracy into a process that should have been driven by the industry. However, the industry failed to act, so the intent was to reduce the waste arising from the many different, incompatible interfaces used to charge consumer devices.
You - just like @m1mini - can both get your “closed” system by only using Apple apps/services and downloading everything from Apple.
It’s not really closed though when you’re using third-party software. The whole App Store is based on the premise that iOS is an ecosystem open to third-party apps.
And completely chilled innovation in the process. We’ll never have a better port now because there’s no incentive for someone to invent one that can’t be used in the EU.
EU said Apple has to operate like Android. Competition isn’t allowed.
Nothing and no-one is stopping you from continuing to do so. By all means, continue to purchase only through the official App Store (which I imagine will be the case for most users). However, those who want to buy from other sources will now have the choice to do so.
I am guessing here. Do you mean the Apple innovation is the walled garden? Seems like the only thing EU is doing is to open a gate in the walled garden so those who want to venture out beyond the walled garden can do that. Can´t see what the problem is with that.
I doubt people buy iPhone because of the walled garden. I think they buy iPhone because it is an iPhone and they are used to use one. Design, hype, familiarity with the OS, convenience etc.
They already did. Android exists. No need to have the government interfering in the free market to impose their “closed ecosystems are bad” ideology and change how the iPhone has worked for 17 years just because you couldn’t be bothered to use a device that better met your needs.
Competition between iOS and Android entails way more than the method of installing third-party apps.
But even for that, it is demonstrably untrue:
Does Apple have to allow third-party apps at all?
Nothing in the law says they have to.
Apple can differentiate from Android by only allowing web apps, for instance.
Imagine how much more closed and secure it would make their platform!
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Search for "2nd DMA enforcement workshop: Apple - Update on first year of DMA compliance" for a video of Apple crying about EU legislation for a few hours. It's hilarious to hear a company struggling to properly implement support for CalDAV based reminders cry about being "locked in by EU".
Apple was almost forced to use that abomination Micro USB. A standard infamous for unreliability both of the port and the cable while being a pain in the butt to use.
Thank god they were forced. Consumers and the environment love it 😍
Shame about all the 30-pin connector waste when Lightning was introduced, though...
The EU/Lightning thing is complete "don't throw me in the briar patch" theatre, anyway. Lightning was sold as the "connector for the next decade" 11-12 years before Apple was "forced by the EU" to drop it. That'd be a decade or so. It was just as obsolete as the 30-pin connector was when Apple dropped that. iPad Pros needed support for Thunderbolt, no-caveats-USB3.2 and full 4-lane DisplayPort - plus higher charging currents - that Lightning can't provide. As soon as the iPad Pros switched to USB-C/TB it would have been daft to leave the other iDevices on a different connector, not to mention the no-brainer of using the same connector that the Mac had been using since 2015/2016.
...but if Apple can deflect the complaints about needing a new cable onto the EU, rather than take the flack they got when they dropped 30-pin...
As an EU citizen, I’m very glad to see the EU standing up for consumers like me by holding companies accountable for abusing dominant market positions.
The only solution is for Tim Apple to call Trump again, yes Trump because this thing is political. The EU is clearly out to kneecap US technology companies to give their feeble home grown offerings a chance.
There is a reason that the EU is a technological innovation wasteland. If it was just up to them the EU would still be using Minitel and Nokias and both of those used US technology at their core.
There is a reason that the EU is a technological innovation wasteland. If it was just up to them the EU would still be using Minitel and Nokias and both of those used US technology at their core.
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The harder they try to not comply, the worse it will get for them (and not only in the EU).
The formula they have now (and don't like) makes sense in a way although I would not work with tiers. You just pay the development tools and all the rest are separate add on modules (hosting, payment system, search, analytics, etc) you choose a la carte and pay for the things an capacity you actually use. And if you don't want to use any of those, you can host yourself and implement other third party services.
This is exactly the way all other software vendors work.
If I make software I need a Visual Studio license, I need Azure hosting capacity, I need Google Analytics and Ads, I need a payment provider...all stuff I pay for. But Microsoft shouldn't get a cut of everything I sell because I use their development tools and hosting services. That is madness.
Also before someone begins about PlayStation: there are currently 3 active cases against Sony for exactly the same thing Apple is doing. One in the US, the UK and the Netherlands. If one of those wins, these walls will start crumbling down in the future as well. That is also the reason why Microsoft is already beta testing that you can use Steam, Ubisoft Connect, EA Play and Epic on the next Xbox console. Times are changing.
The formula they have now (and don't like) makes sense in a way although I would not work with tiers. You just pay the development tools and all the rest are separate add on modules (hosting, payment system, search, analytics, etc) you choose a la carte and pay for the things an capacity you actually use. And if you don't want to use any of those, you can host yourself and implement other third party services.
This is exactly the way all other software vendors work.
If I make software I need a Visual Studio license, I need Azure hosting capacity, I need Google Analytics and Ads, I need a payment provider...all stuff I pay for. But Microsoft shouldn't get a cut of everything I sell because I use their development tools and hosting services. That is madness.
Also before someone begins about PlayStation: there are currently 3 active cases against Sony for exactly the same thing Apple is doing. One in the US, the UK and the Netherlands. If one of those wins, these walls will start crumbling down in the future as well. That is also the reason why Microsoft is already beta testing that you can use Steam, Ubisoft Connect, EA Play and Epic on the next Xbox console. Times are changing.
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It’s a tricky situation though, as long as there’s no clear commitment from Apple to build in America.
With Nokia and Ericsson, the U.S. could but their telco equipment from Huawei.
You don’t seem to care if the EU abuses its position to regulate food, spirit and wine names worldwide to maintain their dominance.
Except to allow for such a thing you have to make massive changes to the OS which could also introduce security risks into the OS. If you want to side load get an android.