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Apple Cites 'Incredible' Demand for New iPhones Amid iPhone 5s Sellouts
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No, it won't. Apple count all the phones shipped to carrier or retail chain (e.g BB or Target) as a sales. All direct sales to customer is counted only when the product is shipped..They talked about the policy in 4Q12 conference call..
I remember Blckberry saying not too long ago that their stock was running low because of demand. We know what happened today.
Supply does not correlate to demand in every scenario. How does having a small supply give an "illusion" of high demand? If Apple had a large supply, we would have still hit "order" online or at the store today.
Correct. When they say something like they "sold" five million on opening weekend, they're counting sales to carriers and retailers in all the opening countries as well.
Shipped to a retailer is a sale.
Direct sales to end consumers are only counted when the product is delivered.
You might want to read this interesting article published just before the announcement :
http://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2013/09/05/analysis-of-iphone-launch-countries-timing-and-first-weekend-sales/
The iPhone 5 launched in the US, UK, Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Hong Kong (not continental China), Japan and Singapore. Sold 5 million over the first week-end.
The iPhone 5C and 5S are launching in US, UK, Australia, Canada, China, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Japan, Puerto Rico and Singapore. (I put the new countries in bold).
Not sure what difference Puerto Rico will make, but China is huge. The 5C and 5S might not be cheap enough to reach a large portion of China's population, but given its size a few percents means millions of sales.
The iPhone 5 also had limited availability vs. demand and was sold out for weeks. They could've sold more than 5 million in the first week-end if they had more to sell. But the 5C was probably mass produced over the last few months and will have no trouble meeting demand, which I believe will be much bigger than what some expect.
Epic lulz! 10%? Ok, buddy.
Hey, you are aware that people here in America buy phones on 24 month contracts, yeah??! Ok, so that means each month about another 4% of total subscribers come due for upgrades.... let's assume that about triple that amount have upgrades they haven't used yet... so, maybe like 15-20% of subscribers are eligible for upgrades, tops. Then, probably about a third of those are NOT in the market for a smart phone at all. So we're at like 10-12% of all cellular users in America both eligible & wanting a new smart phone. Let's be kind & assume 80% of them have no upcoming bills and are ready to purchase immediately... we're at about 8-10% now. Of those, if it's an almost even split between Android & Apple.. each will end up with 4-5% (discounting win & bb).
Now..... Of that 4-5%, what amount of them can be convinced to jump through hoops, get put on waiting lists, & the other aggravation of ordering the first weekend, rather than waiting for the ability to casually stroll in & buy one??
I'd say if that number is between 6 and 8 million, that would be VERY impressive indeed..!!
Sadly, no stores in our area got a lot. Best Buy had a small handful (I think two), the AT&T stores about the same. Plenty of 5C, as you mentioned. But who really came on launch day for a 5C? Well, I am sure a small minority did, keyword being minority.
Of course there's incredible demand, you went and limited the available phones....just like you wanted.
they could still manufacture 10 million phones ( overstock ) and sell all of them in the first day
vs manufacture 3 million , create artificial supply and telling customers to wait.
Slept in until 8. Got up casually and headed down to my local AT&T arriving about 9, they opened at 8 this morning. Walked in and was immediately greeted and verified immediately to see if I qualified for an upgrade. Told the wait was about 45 minutes and reserved a black 32g. Exactly what I wanted. Although I was curious about gold and silver. Told they received 0 of those so my final decision was made even easier. About 30 minutes later I was walking out w/ my new phone. Waited longer w/ my BIL when he needed to replace his Nokia Lumina at another AT&T store on some random Saturday in August.
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Which is pretty much what happened last year as well.
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Which is pretty much what happened last year as well.
While waiting in line this morning a dude two spots in front of me wanted gold so badly he paid a guy a few spots ahead of him and the guy's friend $1,000 to get the lone gold 16gb iPhone 5S that was in the store.
Made NO sense. A fool and his money are soon parted!
It might make sense if he ships it to China, Russia or Dubai and where sells it for $4000 to an even bigger fool.
Are you a bouncer in a strip club?
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Kuo* may have got the right answer [short supplies] but for the wrong reason.
*noted analyst
Not surprised, since the people who tend to be iphones these days are non-techie image conscious consumers.
LOL, love the quote of some person PRAYING to get the gold iphone. What has this world come to?!
The demand for the gold proves that apple consumers don't give two ***** about any specs, as long as it looks pretty, fashionable, and run what they are used to.
Thats with any market though.
Then again, I'm not any better, waiting 5 hours in taiwan to get my z1 white. An absolutely SEXY beast. Better looking then the iphone 5s IMO. Happens to also cost more then the 16gb iphone 5s.
LOL, love the quote of some person PRAYING to get the gold iphone. What has this world come to?!
The demand for the gold proves that apple consumers don't give two ***** about any specs, as long as it looks pretty, fashionable, and run what they are used to.
Thats with any market though.
Then again, I'm not any better, waiting 5 hours in taiwan to get my z1 white. An absolutely SEXY beast. Better looking then the iphone 5s IMO. Happens to also cost more then the 16gb iphone 5s.
If Apple supplies 10 million iPhones on the launch day, there would be no need for lining in store.
Just come when you want, where you want and grab one.
That doesn't look good on headlines. Or any lines.
There would be no people try hard enough to get their hands on one then.
Imagine you can get booze legally for $1 a kilo. Yeah that would be like that.
why would apple create artificial constraints? apple is all about ease, and experience. the most appleish thing to do would provide a pain-free buying experience. not one where you have to wait/search elsewhere. as someone mentioned earlier - do you think they also artificially constrain their servers when a new ios comes out so people think its being downloaded more? of course not - apple want everybody to be able to upgrade seamlessly whenever they want, whether it's hardware or software
You could be right!!
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Not cool!!
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Lol
You should take over Apple's logistics department!
You are awesome if you can force the factories to somehow produce 10 million iPhones, package them, and ship them in just a few weeks!!!!! (You do realize that the GM of iOS 7 needed to be completed before they seal the boxes, yeah?)
I'm VERY impressed. See, I thought that they gobbled up every available bit of freight for sale, invested heavily in new factories.. which hired thousands of new workers in China.. & ramped up capacity to try their damnedest to meet the demand. I thought that each successive iteration, it takes them a little bit longer to sell out.. and they reach parity a little quicker.. I thought they're getting REALLY good at this. *shrugs* I guess not. I guess you must be right... & in an effort to "create hype" at the expense of pissing off customers, not selling as many phones as possible, & reporting less sales and profits, thus lowering their share price........ they MUST be having their Chinese workers work 4 hour days, and driving boats of iPhones in circles around the globe for several days before heading to their destination.. to make it LOOK like people want iPhones when they indeed, do not!!!!
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Christ, do these people even believe their own silly conspiracy theories??
They simple planned the release too early for which they obviously have some strategic reasons. The 5S was going to be the phone I was going to get, but if they don't have normal stock levels in the London stores next week, I'll just wait and buy the Nexus 5 instead.
Its all a bit of a confusing release. I popped into the Bondi junction (Australia) store and it was full, people around 2 benches of 5s, a sign for a 5c, but not an actual 5c in sight.
agreed, well ... people are queuing for couple weeks (or months) of exclusivity =P
Personally i felt that they shouldn't stop taking orders in the apple store ... that would be a good way to gauge the number of sales so next year they could use the number to produce X% of orders in previous year and then add Y% of estimated sales increase this year.