Don't tell the Apple Apologists that. They'll come up with all kinds of reasons your experience is a lie. The truth is, Apple is running FUD on the future they've lost some control of their walled garden.
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Apple Claims App Store Security Features Prevented Over $2 Billion in Fraudulent Transactions in 2022
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The worst part of this is Apple keep the money THEY made from these apps. They should be refunding customers and giving their 30% to charity.
Exactly. But not the nebulous, evil "company", but rather Apple. The company whose vision for the platform I currently trust.
Open platforms are rarely the best. I certainly agree that interoperability is important and support open standards. But you're implying that we are locked in to an Apple-designed future. I disagree. Should I no longer trust Apple's vision, I can switch cheaply and easily to another platform.
This has been addressed over and over again. The experience for those who stay changes as soon as the first app decides to leave the App Store. It also changes for developers who will now have to deal with a major influx of piracy, just like they do on every other platform.
What are you talking about?! The "open model" has worked horribly for decades with malware costing the economy trillions of dollars! Poor discoverability, piracy, and lowest common denominator UIs. Awful. Even on Apple platforms, the quality and selection of apps is far better on iOS than Mac.
The App Store! It's been extremely consumer friendly with low prices, huge variety with safety, security, and privacy advancements along with high adoption of new APIs and features. And importantly to me, a single place for app updates.
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if Apple allows side loading apps then iOS app store will look like MacOS app store, nothing in it.
we all will have to suffer.
RAM & SSD are in SOC in M1, so not fair comparison.
If you think MacBook Pro is expensive there are lot of other options out there.
welcome to capitalism, people have options.
exactly, if people want freedom to side load apps then they can buy Android devices.
ROTFLMAO!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
What era you referring to?
I use Apple Pay, Google Pay, PayPal (with a load only card), CC with a small set dollar value. Need I go on?
I’ve had more of my data stolen from big companies than small ones. LinkedIn, Target, HoeDepot, WellsFargo, BofA, etc…. You plan accordingly.
Apple has been pushing the subscription model for a while now as they see they can get more $$$ from it. I can buy a theme on Gumroad for $5 while on App Store it is a subscription model. Stuff that should be low dollar single pay is subscription. Freaking nuts. Not just Apple though now. OIthers have seen the cost benefit and are also adopting this.
Increased the price? Oh they have. Single pay (legacy) vs Subscribe (current) and when you search for an app you get adverts or alternatives before your search result. It’s a mess. Personally I find the App Store user experience among the lowest.
Can‘t say as to the Meta, I stay as far from that as possible. Seriously despise FB.
Remember there are two sides to side-0loading: 3rd Party app stores and Dev sites. Don;t know Apple’s solution so I can;t speak to what we will end up seeing.
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No but if giving them the option guarantees 50% (made up stat because no one knows how bad it could get) rise in iOS malware, is it really worth it? Remember, Mac users are very different than iOS users who are much more vulnerable and less tech saavy. You will also be paying more in terms of speed, security, cost and convenience for the privilege because of all the malware detection/prevention required and that doesn’t even count all your stolen data that will be sold and used against you in the future. We already know this will happen because it exploded on the PC side due in big part to side loading with and without security warnings.
Well stated.
"Remember, Mac users are very different than iOS users who are much more vulnerable and less tech saavy."
For sure on that.
Further... many people here assume general public iPhone owners are just as tech savvy as they are.
It’s totally a fair comparison. It’s just what things cost. Apple makes huge margins on RAM and storage. I don’t think MacBooks are expensive — they literally are, when compared to any other consumer laptop. If Apple opened up macOS to other OEMs (not saying they should), there would be options with double the storage and memory for half of the price.
And yes I am aware that people have options. Thank you for the condescending explanation.
Yes, I’m sadly way too engaged in these discussions. I don’t see anybody saying that Apple should be held liable for damages caused by people sideloading apps.
I do see lots of really smart takes like “Apple should void the warranties of anybody who sideloads” or “Apple should pull out of the EU”.
amazon.com, newegg.com, microcenter.com, bestbuy.com
Pretty much anywhere that sells PC accessories that’s not apple.com.
If Apple put an empty m.2 slot in all of their Macs (which they could easily do on all models), along with the option to pay 4x the market rate for SOC storage upgrades, I’m sure very few people would opt for the latter:
Good to see the numbers! App store screening process can be better.
As a tech guy on a forum you say this, me as a tech guy who supports users (home and business) I say NO. It will be a disaster, and Apple would be blamed not the users stupidity.
Ahh okay. Well, there is nothing against code signing. Per EU’s DMA, Apple must freely provide all the tools required to install Apps from other sources to all devs, without gatekeeping. This includes code signing, if they require it.
Or Apple iOS devices, at least in the EU. 😆
Seen decent argument about responsibility in the event of side loading. Certainly won't be Apple's and no doubt consumers sideloading will be blamed by the EU, who will of course shy away from their inept IT knowledge and blame someone else for problems they may create.
Seen it in other areas. Politicians at the restaurant asking how to open their iPad's then become experts at everything IT in fag packet policies that usually make matters worse.
Even the Right to Repair is questionable benefit to consumers, when most consumers would prefer a proper warranty covering a decent timespan which would negate the need for right to repair in many cases.
Seen it in other areas. Politicians at the restaurant asking how to open their iPad's then become experts at everything IT in fag packet policies that usually make matters worse.
Even the Right to Repair is questionable benefit to consumers, when most consumers would prefer a proper warranty covering a decent timespan which would negate the need for right to repair in many cases.
No. It’s more than than just a learned behavior.
With the AppStore I know
- I’m less likely to download something that has malware, and if did, I’d bet Apple would remove/block it as soon as it was discovered.
- I can get my money back if I don’t like a purchase I made (as long as I don’t abuse it)
- I can easily cancel a subscription
- My payment information is safe
- The App will stay updated through the appstore
Interesting MR editorial headline choice, adding “Claims”…
and the Apple report says "...potentially fraudulent transactions...".
Although the Apple report headline omits the word "potentially".
So both Apple and MacRumors chose to use a bogus and misleading headline. Sad and very poor and unethical reporting.
I think you will find the words were used because Apple's figures were not independently verified and thus figures cannot be taken as fact or truth which means when writing an article, the correct method of writing is to say '<company> claims x amount was prevented'. If the figures were independently verified then the article could be written as '<company> prevented x amount from occurring'.
Wording matters.