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Honestly I would argue a bigger issue than a power button is the lack of aux jack (or inclusion of aux cable) so people can easily use these wired.
the audio jack of the iPhone is gone now for what, 3 years? they left the power brick out of the iPhone 12 - what possible logic would they have to include a tux jack or a cable???
 
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No one is saying that something doesn't ever has to be charged. That isn't what its about at all. Its about the ability to turn them off when you aren't planning on using them for a while.
I still want to know Who is going to spend $550 on headphones to go days or weeks without using them.
 
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I still want to know Who is going to spend $550 on headphones to go days or weeks without using them.
not $550 but $350 5 years ago for my QC35s - I got them to use on airplanes, I spent 40+ out of 52 weeks traveling, they were and are a lifesaver just for that and were worth every penny just for that ... I also used them for phonecalls, sometimes in-between being on an airplane but sometimes they were not used for a week or 2 ... everyone has different needs
 
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I still want to know Who is going to spend $550 on headphones to go days or weeks without using them.
Since most people have no use for overhead headphones for everyday use, this makes AMPs a niche product. Many people were buying Sony and Bose ANC headphones for traveling. AMPs do not work well for this use case. They do not work for audiophiles. People who are buying them noe seemingly do not fit any particular use case. They are just Apple fans but that's not a use case.
 
Some posts are correct, but also lot of misinformation re Find My, and some with activation lock. The reality is:

1) Find My “Network” (aka offline finding, aka crowd-sourced assistance from e.g. other people’s iphones) does NOT work with Airpods (AP) or AirPods Max (APM).
2) Marking AP and APM as Lost in Find My is NOT possible. Note that marking as Lost is a necessary prerequisite for activating the crowd sourced finding feature that is available on other devices.
3) Activation Lock is NOT applicable to AP or APM. It is easy for anyone to reset AP and APM to factory settings/condition.
 
So many people just want to show how “individualistic” they are and demand the opposite of what Apple does. Lots of people would ask for turning power off automatically if there was a power button, and many of the complainers would be the same ones that complain now.
This so much. It doesn’t matter what Apple chose to do that would be people on here saying it was wrong. If they put a power button people would say it should need a power button.

The bottom line is no one product is for everyone. If something is made for one person to like another person will dislike it for that same reason. This is why we have choices. Some people will be more happy with Sony while others more happy with Bose, and some will like these. For my use I think I will enjoy them but that’s to be determined because shipping isn’t till February. If I was going to use these for flying I might go for a lighter pair but not doing any flying in the near future. Also I could have more than one pair of headphones so I can buy these for one purpose and buy another pair for another purpose. That’s a cool thing about choice as well 😂😂😂
 
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There is nothing to elaborate on. Once they are out of range of your bluetooth connection, they are only track-able to the last place you were connected to them. If someone picks them up they are gone. There's no science to it, that's the way it works.

You are right. I don’t know why I thought that AirPods would connect to the “find my” network but I am clearly mistaken on that point. I apologise for any confusion caused.

Perhaps in the future, we may see activation lock brought to AirPods, but for now, that leaves locating them around the house as the sole use case. Again, one possible explanation is that Apple wants the headphones to be discoverable in Find My longer if they are put down outside the case because they are more likely to have been misplaced if not intentionally placed in their case.

Which also makes it a lot less useful in said scenario, but so far, that the support document expressly mentions “find my” makes me suspect that the inability to turn off your AirPods max was a deliberate design choice with said feature in mind.

Rather than an oversight or omission.
 
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Some posts are correct, but also lot of misinformation re Find My, and some with activation lock. The reality is:

1) Find My “Network” (aka offline finding, aka crowd-sourced assistance from e.g. other people’s iphones) does NOT work with Airpods (AP) or AirPods Max (APM).
2) Marking AP and APM as Lost in Find My is NOT possible. Note that marking as Lost is a necessary prerequisite for activating the crowd sourced finding feature that is available on other devices.
3) Activation Lock is NOT applicable to AP or APM. It is easy for anyone to reset AP and APM to factory settings/condition.

Thank you for pointing this out. I stand corrected and have acknowledged this in my post right above.
 
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I am really lost as to what you are talking about? No one is saying its a feature we HAVE TO HAVE. People are simply saying that it should be something that Apple could have and should have put in place. My god, its ok to be critical of Apple's Headphones. They are far from perfect and not putting a power button on them was a mistake in many people's opinion. Just because Apple didn't put one on there didn't mean it was the right thing to do.
Clearly it's okay to criticize Apple, but the same right doesn't apply to those who may have a different take? Apple is far from perfect, as we as human beings are. They have a different take on things, such as removing power bricks, headphone jacks. Typically the last to implement tech, such as finger print reader, that turns out to be the gold standard.

Because people have an opinion that omitting a power button was a mistake, people also have the opinion that it doesn't matter to them. So it doesn't mean it was the right thing to do and it doesn't mean it's the wrong thing to do.

If the power button is a critical requirement in ones' use case, the APM isn't for them. It's as simple as that.
 
I still want to know Who is going to spend $550 on headphones to go days or weeks without using them.

Lol you do realize that there is a large portion of the population that doesn't sit tethered to a desk right? I travel all over the country and sometimes have long delays and travel time, which is when I use wireless headphones the most. When I get to my destination I'm busy working and aren't sitting around watching movies or listening to music. It would be nice to shut them off if I'm not going to use them for several days.
 
Some posts are correct, but also lot of misinformation re Find My, and some with activation lock. The reality is:

1) Find My “Network” (aka offline finding, aka crowd-sourced assistance from e.g. other people’s iphones) does NOT work with Airpods (AP) or AirPods Max (APM).
2) Marking AP and APM as Lost in Find My is NOT possible. Note that marking as Lost is a necessary prerequisite for activating the crowd sourced finding feature that is available on other devices.
3) Activation Lock is NOT applicable to AP or APM. It is easy for anyone to reset AP and APM to factory settings/condition.
Yeah that's exactly what I explained several times.
 
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the audio jack of the iPhone is gone now for what, 3 years? they left the power brick out of the iPhone 12 - what possible logic would they have to include a tux jack or a cable???
That's what I'm saying... I understand that a lot of people are upset at the lack of a headphone jack. I'm actually working with a friend to see if there's any noticeable difference using the Beats lightning-aux jack over the bluetooth (my B&O headphones sound better over cable, unsurprisingly). The lack of an aux cable makes me think Apple has really poured effort into making that Bluetooth connection the absolute best it can be in terms of audio compression and quality.


But people need to understand that these headphones are designed specifically for users of Apple's ecosystem. Which... let's see... has designed four of it's major mobile product categories without aux ports (the majority of iPads and iPhones, along with all Apple Watches and effectively Apple TVs).

These headphones being built without an aux cord makes sense because they're designed to be used within that ecosystem and to take advantage of specific AirPod technology (near-seamless device switching). So what incentive does Apple have to include an aux jack?

If you're a user that wishes to utilize an aux cable, then a.) you probably already have that Beats aux cable or lighting adapter and b.) if not, then there's a Beats aux cable for you.
 
That's what I'm saying... I understand that a lot of people are upset at the lack of a headphone jack. I'm actually working with a friend to see if there's any noticeable difference using the Beats lightning-aux jack over the bluetooth (my B&O headphones sound better over cable, unsurprisingly). The lack of an aux cable makes me think Apple has really poured effort into making that Bluetooth connection the absolute best it can be in terms of audio compression and quality.


But people need to understand that these headphones are designed specifically for users of Apple's ecosystem. Which... let's see... has designed four of it's major mobile product categories without aux ports (the majority of iPads and iPhones, along with all Apple Watches and effectively Apple TVs).

These headphones being built without an aux cord makes sense because they're designed to be used within that ecosystem and to take advantage of specific AirPod technology (near-seamless device switching). So what incentive does Apple have to include an aux jack?

If you're a user that wishes to utilize an aux cable, then a.) you probably already have that Beats aux cable or lighting adapter and b.) if not, then there's a Beats aux cable for you.
I don't disagree with any of this.
But in my view the user base for these is tiny:

- only wants to use it inside the Apple ecosystem
- wants a pair of large over-ear headphones but not actually interested in 'audiophile' quality (impossible given current bluetooth limitations)
- doesn't plan to use it in any professional context...editing/video/audio production (impractical without zero latency)
- is happy to go without all the usual features such as inbuilt EQ, power button, jack input etc. etc.
- is happy to put up with the rather ridiculous and unwieldy travel case concept
- isn't bothered about the unusually heavy weight, especially in the context of travelling
- and despite all the above, is still happy to spend double the price over that of it's competitors.
 
A product with no power button, genius!
The “power button”, if you will, is that you take them off. They'll go to a low power mode in just 5 minutes.

Sure, it's not strictly the same as ”power off”, but who cares if they can sit that way for a couple of days, go to ultra low power, and sit in that mode for, I don't know, probably at least weeks?

Previously, I've been using the Sennheiser Momentum Wireless, and more than once have I forgotten to turn them off, and they would just sit there on my desk or bag, draining battery. The next day, they'll be empty and I cannot use the damn things until a recharge.

I'm looking forward to just taking my headphones off and not stress about turning them off. Take them off, and the next day, they'll have almost the same amount of battery left, guaranteed. How is that a bad thing?
 
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