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So many people WANT a power button. But, do they really NEED a power button?
So many people just want to show how “individualistic” they are and demand the opposite of what Apple does. Lots of people would ask for turning power off automatically if there was a power button, and many of the complainers would be the same ones that complain now.
 
His post is actually insulting. He's basically saying that 80% of the population is too stupid to figure out battery life or how to use a power button so we let Apple do it for us. Its a comically bad tweet.
The cheap headphones that I have now have 24 to 32 hours battery life and a power switch. So that should last three days, at eight hours a day, if I remember turning them off. But what happens is I take them off the charger, use them for eight hours, put them down forgetting to turn them off, and next morning they are close to empty.

If they switched to low power mode five minutes after I take them off that would be a lot more convenient.
 
Lol, no offense to Rene but he's one of the biggest Apple shill's on the web. His entire channel is dedicated to praising Apple products and fawning over them. Nothing he says regarding Apple products should ever be taken seriously becuase he is never, ever objective regarding their products.

His post is actually insulting. He's basically saying that 80% of the population is too stupid to figure out battery life or how to use a power button so we let Apple do it for us. Its a comically bad tweet.
Apple often leaves little clues in their product design that hint at how they envision these products being used. I find that more often than not, it helps to think about why that may be the case, rather than rush to criticise Apple for apparently not thinking through the design of their product thoroughly enough.

The first clue I gather from the article is that bluetooth and "find my" is only disabled after three days. My guess is that Apple wants the AirPods max to remain discoverable via the "find my" app even when left outside the case. This will be useful for locating the headphones if they are misplaced or (more likely) when they have been stolen. There's no way for the thief to physically turn off the AirPods max and disable bluetooth / find my. At the same time, the user doesn't end up in a situation where he wants to locate his headphones and then goes "oh crap, I accidentally turned it off just now!"

It's always on and constantly emitting a bluetooth signal, just like your iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, AirPods, MacBook, heck, pretty much every apple product that supports bluetooth and is capable of contributing to the "find my" network. This design sounds pretty darn deliberate (and clever) to me.

Either way, there seems to be no appreciable difference in battery consumption regardless of whether the AirPods max are kept in the case or not. Ultimately, the takeaway is - just use the headphones and don't worry about trying to micromanage its battery life.
 
So many people just want to show how “individualistic” they are and demand the opposite of what Apple does. Lots of people would ask for turning power off automatically if there was a power button, and many of the complainers would be the same ones that complain now.
I want a power button that presses itself after 5 minutes.
 
The cheap headphones that I have now have 24 to 32 hours battery life and a power switch. So that should last three days, at eight hours a day, if I remember turning them off. But what happens is I take them off the charger, use them for eight hours, put them down forgetting to turn them off, and next morning they are close to empty.

If they switched to low power mode five minutes after I take them off that would be a lot more convenient.
Sigh, no. Apple could leave the exact same functionality and also include a power button. It isn't hard and its not some type of insane request to ask to be able to turn your battery powered device off.
 
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Apple often leaves little clues in their product design that hint at how they envision these products being used. I find that more often than not, it helps to think about why that may be the case, rather than rush to criticise Apple for apparently not thinking through the design of their product thoroughly enough.

The first clue I gather from the article is that bluetooth and "find my" is only disabled after three days. My guess is that Apple wants the AirPods max to remain discoverable via the "find my" app even when left outside the case. This will be useful for locating the headphones if they are misplaced or (more likely) when they have been stolen. There's no way for the thief to physically turn off the AirPods max and disable bluetooth / find my. At the same time, the user doesn't end up in a situation where he wants to locate his headphones and then goes "oh crap, I accidentally turned it off just now!"

It's always on and constantly emitting a bluetooth signal, just like your iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, AirPods, MacBook, heck, pretty much every apple product that supports bluetooth and is capable of contributing to the "find my" network. This design sounds pretty darn deliberate (and clever) to me.

Either way, there seems to be no appreciable difference in battery consumption regardless of whether the AirPods max are kept in the case or not. Ultimately, the takeaway is - just use the headphones and don't worry about trying to micromanage its battery life.
Uh no. Airpods Max, just like Airpods, are only going to show the last place that they were connected. If you leave them somewhere, the moment you get too far away from them and that Bluetooth connection is severed they are done. No power button adds ZERO additional functionality because when that connection severs they become like regular Airpods in the Find My app and you can see the last place they were connected to your device. If Someone steals these Find My isn't going to show where they've been taken. There is no security to them and all someone has to do is reset them and they are now their Airpod Max's.

So no, it isn't clever at all. Its just Apple telling people they don't need a power button and it provides exactly ZERO benefits to the user.
 
Are we supposed to take Renee Ritchie's opinion on Apple products as anywhere near being objective?
I think pretty much so.

His post is plain stupid.
And the above is an objective comnent?
Sony headphones have the same power management as APMs
Citation for the above. A comparison of power management features across headphones would be useful.
AND in addition they have a power switch thus providing convenience for different types of users.
Not if the power management isn’t the same.
 
Uh no. Airpods Max, just like Airpods, are only going to show the last place that they were connected. If you leave them somewhere, the moment you get too far away from them and that Bluetooth connection is severed they are done. No power button adds ZERO additional functionality because when that connection severs they become like regular Airpods in the Find My app and you can see the last place they were connected to your device. If Someone steals these Find My isn't going to show where they've been taken. There is no security to them and all someone has to do is reset them and they are now their Airpod Max's.

So no, it isn't clever at all. Its just Apple telling people they don't need a power button and it provides exactly ZERO benefits to the user.

I believe Apple has changed the way “find my” works since iOS 13.


Say someone steals your MacBook. Even if the thief carries it around closed and disconnected from the internet, your laptop will emit its rotating public key via Bluetooth. A nearby stranger's iPhone, with no interaction from its owner, will pick up the signal, check its own location, and encrypt that location data using the public key it picked up from the laptop. The public key doesn't contain any identifying information, and since it frequently rotates, the stranger's iPhone can't link the laptop to its prior locations either.

The best part is if the thief uses an iphone himself. Then you will be able to triangulate the location of your headphones using his iphone. Irony at its finest.
 
I believe Apple has changed the way “find my” works since iOS 13.




The best part is if the thief uses an iphone himself. Then you will be able to triangulate the location of your headphones using his iphone. Irony at its finest.
First of all you can't compare iPhones and Macbooks to these headphones. Its a completely different animal that you can secure so no one can reset them. If you lose your Airpods Max or they are stolen, they are gone.
 
All other airpods are in a state of charge when you put them into their case. If that was happening with the APM then its a non issue of no power button.
The power switch is an issue to some and a non-issue to others. (To me it's a non-issue) Even with the airpods the case still needs to be charged. Something always has to be charged.
 
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Again Apple's reluctance to include a simple feature means you need to go through a ridiculous storage procedure to maintain battery life. Why not allow a press of the crown for a few seconds to power down the device instead.
On the other hand one less thing to worry about. Zero reason to worry about always storing in case either.
 
The power switch is an issue to some and a non-issue to others. (To me it's a non-issue) Even with the airpods the case still needs to be charged. Something always has to be charged.
No one is saying that something doesn't ever has to be charged. That isn't what its about at all. Its about the ability to turn them off when you aren't planning on using them for a while.
 
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No one is saying that something doesn't ever has to be charged. That isn't what its about at all. Its about the ability to turn them off when you aren't planning on using them for a while.
Apple decided a power switch wasn't needed. They are micro-managing the power so you don't have to. My guess is if you will be an occasional user of these headphones, such that battery will drain before each use, these headphones really aren't for you (unless you just want them because). The goal is instant availability to one's idevice.
 
First of all you can't compare iPhones and Macbooks to these headphones. Its a completely different animal that you can secure so no one can reset them. If you lose your Airpods Max or they are stolen, they are gone.
Please elaborate. The whole point behind ”find my” is precisely that all your apple devices are also airtags in their own right. What’s stopping me from locating my AirPods via “find my” the same way I would locate an Apple Watch or macbook? They have no cellular connection, but can piggy-back on another nearby iphone to broadcast their location.

This alone to me more than justifies the absence of a power button.
 
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Please elaborate. The whole point behind ”find my” is precisely that all your apple devices are also airtags in their own right. What’s stopping me from locating my AirPods via “find my” the same way I would locate an Apple Watch or macbook? They have no cellular connection, but can piggy-back on another nearby iphone to broadcast their location.

This alone to me more than justifies the absence of a power button.

There is nothing to elaborate on. Once they are out of range of your bluetooth connection, they are only track-able to the last place you were connected to them. If someone picks them up they are gone. There's no science to it, that's the way it works.
 
Apple decided a power switch wasn't needed. They are micro-managing the power so you don't have to. My guess is if you will be an occasional user of these headphones, such that battery will drain before each use, these headphones really aren't for you (unless you just want them because). The goal is instant availability to one's idevice.
Again, people are aware of how to use a power button. If I'm traveling and want them while traveling, but won't use them for a week while I'm at my desitination then I'd like to turn them off. People don't just sit at home listening to bluetooth headphones, and using them while traveling and then turning them off between travel is a pretty common thing that one should be able to do. So yeah, they are for me, its just that Apple wants to tell me that I'm too stupid to know how to turn my headphones on and off.
 
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Again, people are aware of how to use a power button. If I'm traveling and want them while traveling, but won't use them for a week while I'm at my desitination then I'd like to turn them off. People don't just sit at home listening to bluetooth headphones, and using them while traveling and then turning them off between travel is a pretty common thing that one should be able to do. So yeah, they are for me, its just that Apple wants to tell me that I'm too stupid to know how to turn my headphones on and off.
"Again", Apple made the decision for you about the power button, same as it made the decision about the headphone jack, power brick, etc. I got the fact is there is no power button, but if you want that as a priority item, these headphones aren't for you. That's the thing about Apple products, what they do well, what can be improved and what their perceived weakness are. (I don't think Apple is telling you that you are "too stupid", they are telling you this item doesn't need a power switch)
 
I think pretty much so.


And the above is an objective comnent?

Citation for the above. A comparison of power management features across headphones would be useful.

Not if the power management isn’t the same.
Have you ever heard of Google?

Turning off the headset​

  1. Press and hold the
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    (power) button for about 2 seconds until the indicator (blue) turns off.
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Hint​

  • You can also turn off the headset with the “Sony | Headphones Connect” app.
  • The headset will automatically turn off after 15 minutes of not being worn. This setting can be changed using the “Sony | Headphones Connect” app.
  • When storing the headset in a bag, etc., turn off the headset. Wearing detection may react incorrectly.
 
Have you ever heard of Google?

Turning off the headset​

  1. Press and hold the
    s0030.png
    (power) button for about 2 seconds until the indicator (blue) turns off.
    i0190_wh1000xm4.png

Hint​

  • You can also turn off the headset with the “Sony | Headphones Connect” app.
  • The headset will automatically turn off after 15 minutes of not being worn. This setting can be changed using the “Sony | Headphones Connect” app.
  • When storing the headset in a bag, etc., turn off the headset. Wearing detection may react incorrectly.
I’m going to take this as a no.
 
WThere is nothing to elaborate on. Once they are out of range of your bluetooth connection, they are only track-able to the last place you were connected to them. If someone picks them up they are gone. There's no science to it, that's the way it works.
I don’t think you have any evidence for that, do you? Restricting “Find my headphones” to Bluetooth range from my phone or Mac would make the feature quite pointless. Most likely is “within range of _any_ iPhone or Mac as long as Bluetooth is on.
 
"Again", Apple made the decision for you about the power button, same as it made the decision about the headphone jack, power brick, etc. I got the fact is there is no power button, but if you want that as a priority item, these headphones aren't for you. That's the thing about Apple products, what they do well, what can be improved and what their perceived weakness are. (I don't think Apple is telling you that you are "too stupid", they are telling you this item doesn't need a power switch)
I am really lost as to what you are talking about? No one is saying its a feature we HAVE TO HAVE. People are simply saying that it should be something that Apple could have and should have put in place. My god, its ok to be critical of Apple's Headphones. They are far from perfect and not putting a power button on them was a mistake in many people's opinion. Just because Apple didn't put one on there didn't mean it was the right thing to do.
 
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I don’t think you have any evidence for that, do you? Restricting “Find my headphones” to Bluetooth range from my phone or Mac would make the feature quite pointless. Most likely is “within range of _any_ iPhone or Mac as long as Bluetooth is on.

Lol, how do you think the feature currently works? You can only track your Airpods last known location they were connected with your device. That is how it works and no it is not very useful which is why Apple will be coming out with AirTags.

You are welcome to go drop your AirPods in a public place and let someone steal them. You won't be getting them back though.
 
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