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The smart case looks like an eye glasses case. Apple is using this as an opportunity to learn and test to help with its development of the smart case for the Apple glasses 👓 🔮
 
It probably would have been smart for Apple to clarify this in their "specs" upon release to avoid all the confusion.

I'm sure the battery life will be just fine, and it will be nice to pick them up and have them connected immediately, instead of the usual futzing with my Bose headphones.
 
I guess most people just leave them off and only turn them on when they need to use them (or so it appears). Apple typically does a good job at battery life management. It's simply imo... just charge them overnight if one's been using them often, not that hard... but then again, people won't have something to complain about.
If I’m buying a pair of $550 headphones I’m going to be using them darn near every day. I‘m baffled by someone spending that much money on a piece of electronics and then leaving it sit unused for weeks at a time.
 
Apple could have engineered a better solution with only 2 buttons.

The NC-700 has auto off and a power button which doubles as a BT button. Apple could have used the ANC button as long hold to turn off if required.

When these devices are a year old and you realise you can’t turn them off, the battery drain will be worse on an aged battery which you can’t even replace.

Just add the function instead of all the fancy fancy stuff
 
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Silly question but do the headphones need to be lifted or worn to interupt the low power modes? If I leave them hanging on a stand on my bedside table which wobbles some when turning over in bed etc..can I assume this slight movement (wobble) will prevent low power mode becoming ultra low mode, presuming they need to be completely still (stationary)?
 
I agree they should be upfront with low power mode information but my god the way some are making it out to be a national scandal that these headphones don’t have a power button is ridiculous. I swear people wake up in the morning looking for things to be worried/outraged about. 🙄

Honestly I would argue a bigger issue than a power button is the lack of aux jack (or inclusion of aux cable) so people can easily use these wired.
Yeah selling their cable for $35 separately was also a wild move. I don’t see any outrage about that Lol.

People are funny.
 
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So in summary, a small group of disgruntled users are kicking a fuss over an issue which simply isn’t going to matter for the rest of the AirPod max users.

Another day in the land of manufactured Apple outrage, it seems.
 
So in summary, a small group of disgruntled users are kicking a fuss over an issue which simply isn’t going to matter for the rest of the AirPod max users.

Another day in the land of manufactured Apple outrage, it seems.
To avoid full discharge of the battery (which may kill it) in Sony headphones one has to charge them every 6 months. APM owners are going to have to babysit them constantly. It's "use them or lose them". Given the fact that a typical Apple fan also owns iPhone, iPad, AirPods and AW, that's a lot of responsibilities. People are just wasting their lives.
 
Once again, Renee Ritchie says it best.


Except the 20% is likely closer to 5%, and time will tell that ultimately, nobody really cares and it will have been a whole lot of fuss over nothing.
Are we supposed to take Renee Ritchie's opinion on Apple products as anywhere near being objective? His post is plain stupid. Sony headphones have the same power management as APMs AND in addition they have a power switch thus providing convenience for different types of users.
 
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To avoid full discharge of the battery (which may kill it) in Sony headphones one has to charge them every 6 months. APM owners are going to have to babysit them constantly. It's "use them or lose them". Given the fact that a typical Apple fan also owns iPhone, iPad, AirPods and AW, that's a lot of responsibilities. People are just wasting their lives.

I think that most Apple users are conditioned to charging their iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch every night, so it’s not an issue.

AirPods are constantly charging and discharging as well, have sold tens of millions of units, and if keeping them charged was a genuine issue with users, I think we will have about it by now. In reality, because the AirPods share the same lightning port as the iPhone, I am guessing people just plug it in as and when it is convenient.

Once again, it just sounds like much ado over nothing.

Are we supposed to take Renee Ritchie's opinion on Apple products as anywhere near being objective? His post is plain stupid. Sony headphones have the same power management as APMs AND in addition they have a power switch thus providing convenience for different types of users.

It does show the difference in thinking between a design-led company and an engineering-led one.
 
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72 hours of not-so-low power mode is a super long time to crunch the battery life for doing nothing. How about give us the power switch and let the users decide whether they want it completely off or not. If the user forget to turn it off (which would help if it has LED indicator on it, duh) then yeah you can let whatever intelligent standby mode interfere.
 
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I think that most Apple users are conditioned to charging their iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch every night, so it’s not an issue.

AirPods are constantly charging and discharging as well, have sold tens of millions of units, and if keeping them charged was a genuine issue with users, I think we will have about it by now. In reality, because the AirPods share the same lightning port as the iPhone, I am guessing people just plug it in as and when it is convenient.

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Actually it is a genuine issue. The inability to truly power-off AirPods has been the main cause why its lifespan is so short for $200 earbuds. Two years on average, or less if you use it extensively.

Even all Beats headphones, which also owned by Apple have power switch, along with onboard LED indicator, along with standby mode, along with H1 chip features. Some even have special features earlier than AirPods lineups (i.e: ANC in Beats Studio 3).

Many would probably be okay and tolerate churning $200 every two years or so for earbuds, but AirPods Max is $550 and people expect it to last longer with less battery wear.
 
Once again, Renee Ritchie says it best.


Except the 20% is likely closer to 5%, and time will tell that ultimately, nobody really cares and it will have been a whole lot of fuss over nothing.

Lol, no offense to Rene but he's one of the biggest Apple shill's on the web. His entire channel is dedicated to praising Apple products and fawning over them. Nothing he says regarding Apple products should ever be taken seriously becuase he is never, ever objective regarding their products.

His post is actually insulting. He's basically saying that 80% of the population is too stupid to figure out battery life or how to use a power button so we let Apple do it for us. Its a comically bad tweet.
 
When I take my headphones off, the headphone icon goes away, but they are still listed as connected in the Bluetooth settings of the device after 15 minutes. I don’t know if that means they’re in low power or not.
 
My toilet doesn’t have a power button. I’m happy with that. Neither does my smoke alarm.

Great point!! My kitchen table doesn't have a power button and neither does my CO monitor. Completely the same thing as Apple not providing a power button for Airpods Max :rolleyes:.
 
When I take my headphones off, the headphone icon goes away, but they are still listed as connected in the Bluetooth settings of the device after 15 minutes. I don’t know if that means they’re in low power or not.
They are in whatever mode Apple tells us they are because they decided we are all too stupid to use a power button.
 
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I really think that if Apple removed the ability to make phone calls on their phones there would be people that would defend it in here. "No one makes phone calls anymore so that functionality isn't needed. Apple knows best."

Apple makes mistakes from time to time (butterfly keyboard is a recent gaffe) and not giving the ability to turn these headphones off is one of them. I love Apple products and also purchased the AirPods Max, but when they treat the population like morons iits sometimes irritating. Literally everyone on the planet knows how to use a power button. They could have left the same functionality of low and ultra low power modes but also included a switch to turn the headphones off.
 
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Just depends on whether you want to be able to find ear phones when yo leave them somewhere.
I do.
 
So outside the case after 72 hours it goes into ultra low power mode and turns off Bluetooth.

I suppose that means without folding the earphones flat. Just keeping them still.

How to turn them on again after 72 hours?

Will it still detect you picking them up while in ultra-low power and is that enough? Or do I need to press any of the buttons?
Obviously once you leave them lying down for 72 hours, you have to take them to an Apple Store which will reactivate them for £39.

no, you just put them on your head and start playing music!
 
But do they work at all, even wired, if the battery is dead? I'm assuming no because of all the sound circuitry and whatnot, but I'd love to be wrong here.
My old Sony headphones were wired + noise cancellation. When the batteries were empty, you still heard the music, but not at very good quality. Of course totally different product, but still possible.
 
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