Just make it like on macOS and everyone will be happy with more than half of its User not even knowing it’s an option anyway
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Apple Clashes With UK Regulator in Fierce Response to Warning That Could Require It to 'Redesign the iPhone'
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And I have dealt with Mac malware and windows malware before. So has my family and I have had to fix it on a weekly basis until they moved to iPads.
Exactly. Just like how Windows XP was the most targeted operating system for years, while OS X for the most part didn’t have to worry about viruses or malware or spyware or anything like that.
In this case it would result in several million British tutting loudly, then joining the queue for an Android device in an orderly manner.
iOS is the only one closed mobile operating system on the market, please don’t take it away from consumers, let make us the choice if we prefer open (Android) or closed (iPhone) environment.
Yep. I don’t believe iOS and macOS is as secure as people on this site think. Windows gets hit the most because of marketshare. And iOS security right now is helped by apps being gated due to the walled garden.
Yeah that's a very serious problem that happens all the time on Android.
Wait, no, it doesn't. Weird.
Same people as anti-vaxxers. They say stupid things like 'I prefer freedom to security' as if that is relevant in the device space.
Nvidia got hacked last month and now there are fake Nvidia drivers going around that use an Nvidia security certificate but contain viruses.
People need to understand this is easy and attempted attacks against individuals, institutions and companies are happening every second of the day. It's their full time job. Don't make it easy for them.
Windows gets hit because they tried to plug all the holes in the non existent security model.
iOS takes the opposite approach and this entire thing compromises it.
If Apple did introduce side loading, developers would use it.
Big developers like Facebook, tictoc, epic, Spotify.
They don’t on android because there’s almost no benefit.
On The iPhone, there’s major benefits to gain.
No app tracking transparency, no Apple privacy labels, no Apple payment systems.
If All of these companies could get their millions and millions of customers to download the apps via the website, they would be making way more money than they are now.
They most certainly wouldn’t pass up an opportunity like that
Agreed. My point was peoples response that iOS would be just as secure due to “sandbox!!!” iOS is going to be a security nightmare for a few versions because now random websites could exploit a security flaw in the “side load toggle” and do a drive by install. iOS will be attacked in methods it never needed to deal with before thus resulting in flaws.
I firmly believe windows is the most secure platform out there because it’s been attacked so much and in so many ways. If macOS suddenly had windows marketshare, I think it would be a nightmare.
As expected from Apple really, it's defending its eco system as it knows it will reduce its profits if it opens its devices up to competitors.
I do think Apple should be forced to allow apps to advertise that you can pay for them outside the App Store. It's up the customer then which method they use.
But as this is the U.K. commission, just donating some money to right party and politician tends to make these things go away... such is the hypocritical corruption in British politics.
I do think Apple should be forced to allow apps to advertise that you can pay for them outside the App Store. It's up the customer then which method they use.
But as this is the U.K. commission, just donating some money to right party and politician tends to make these things go away... such is the hypocritical corruption in British politics.
Android hardware is equally good for most consumers so if you want sideloading, just buy an Android.
Did you even read my whole message?
Android developers have absolutely nothing to gain by sideloading instead of using the play store.
App discoverability on android is already a bit of a mess, the play store is the easiest place to get most customers, and as for companies like Facebook, Google is certainly not as hard on privacy as Apple is.
However, introduce sideloading to the iPhone, and developers have *tons* of benefits of using it, especially the big developers.
No Apple payment systems? No app tracking transparency? No Apple warning privacy labels? No microphone and camera usage logs?
And all Facebook, Google, TicToc, Spotify have to do is put instructions on their website on how to open up the sideloading possibilities of an iPhone?
Why wouldn’t these developers use that opportunity for evil
Exactly, and this is a universal truth.
Nothing is a huge problem until Apple does it.
Item tracking devices weren’t a big stalking pr problem until Apple introduced AirTags.
Same thing will happen here.
Android has something that no one uses, developers or customers
Then Apple is forced to open the iPhone to sideloading… and boom! All the biggest apps that you want, or that the majority of customers want, all of a sudden become Side loaded to get around apples App Store rules and options, and the majority of customers are pretty much forced to flip the death switch to their iPhone’s security
That's true as long as you only, for example, access apple.com or a relatively few other sites that are Apple oriented. Just because you have not had a problem with your limited use does not mean others don't. I have a problem with webkit daily. I try to use other browsers, but I don't like it.
You just proved the point of why Apple should not be forced to own up the iOS platform to the same problems that plague Google, Windows and to a lesser extent, macOS. They might be fully acceptable to you, but they aren’t to me and they aren’t to the majority of iPhone and iOS consumers. I want Apple concentrating on other things, not self inflicted security issues at the behest of idiot bureaucracies to please idiot bureaucrats who think they are smarter than I am and think they know better than what I want. Please move to Android if you want that sort of side-loading “paradise”.
Yes, they do. There are plenty of apps that require or encourage side-loading on android. How will the side-loading system ensure that all apps available outside the app store are also on the App Store, don’t include features Apple Disapproves of, and that updates outside the App Store are not released prior to being available on the App Store?
Developers frequently make apps available earlier, cheaper, with different features outside the google play store.
Then buy an Android device, Chromebook or MS Surface (or, for that matter a MacBook), use Chrome/Edge and let Google or Microsoft gather your data instead...
All this is based on the conceit that Apple has a near-monopoly on the phone/tablet market that is somehow comparable to the Windows/Intel monoculture back in the 90s. Anybody who thinks that wasn't there: using anything other than a PC could be a massive uphill struggle. Walk into a PC superstore in the mid 90s and see, as you will today, at least 3-4 different platforms on offer? Dream on - it was a sea of beige Windows boxes. That's what a monopoly looks like.
I don't particularly like the closed nature of iOS. Consequence: I've got an Android phone. Easy. Most Apps that I'm somehow "compelled" to use - local transport, bluetooth widgets, TV remote, banking, healthcare - seem to support Android (again, far cry from the 90s when you'd see "Requires Windows" where today it would be "Available on iOS, Android and www.whatever.com").
You have a major problem with your premise.
Sideloading is available on android and what you’re describing doesn’t happen there.
********. I use my iphone on all kinds of website. Works fine. If you have examples, let's see them. Link us up. But of course... you won't
If you all want sideloading so bad and you KNOW it's not possible in ios... why are you using ios? Why not get an Android phone?
This reads like nothing more than a temper tantrum from Apple.