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Apple Code Confirms Vision Pro With M5 Chip
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That’s great, as you actually understand that people can have no regrets about things that cost them a fair bit of cash, as long as they feel it was worth it to them. That means the only question is why you would care about what other people feel is worth it to them.
I was actually thinking about the minor incidents where self-driving goes off script, and people usually just muddle through while just driving even more poorly than usual. The drunk driver would actually be an example of my viewpoint that self-driving would most likely usually do better than the dumb decisions most of us humans make.
However, I’m old and still consider even current AI to just be larger scale pattern matching, so I don’t expect it to deal well with major variations to the norm, but maybe my view would change if I actually rode in a Waymo.
I’d be curious of the actual percentages, as in number of Waymo versus human drivers, as I would expect it to be far less than a hundredth of a percent, and they already do have a few accidents under their belts (as would be expected, though I assume this site would be happy to talk about all of them
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I don’t care an iota about the few individuals who defend buying such a crappy product; I care about Apple’s visionless leadership squandering resources on that POS.
If the M5 version will directly attach to a sim pc and work with iRacing, instant buy from me.
Price would probably still be prohibitive for me, but I'd be extremely interested.
Funny, I feel the same way about the few individuals who constantly complain about a product they aren’t interested in, especially those that think Apple is somehow dedicating all their resources to the AVP, when it is obviously just a technology experiment at the moment. If you don’t like it, then don’t buy it, but the presumption to speak for everyone is just annoying. The tone of the AVP detractors sounds like they asked an AVP out on a date and it rejected them, but they just can’t get over it. If you don’t like a product, just find something you like, rather than belittling people for being interested in something you aren’t.
Since it seems that the AVP does work as a PC VR headset using ALVR, you are sending some really mixed messages on this thread. Are you forgetting the /s, or feel a headset needs wires, or?
I’m just trying to figure out exactly what you are asking for, as you seem to hate the very concept of the AVP, yet ask for a feature that already exists to be added. I get not liking the product, but I don’t understand wanting features added in that case.
But in case this helps you:
This is just how I feel about folks who shout at us small phone (iPhone Mini or smaller) folks and tell us effectively to shut up, go away, give it up, the world has moved on, etc.
Doesn't matter where or when, there are always folks going out of their way to talk down to people who simply love and prefer phones made with "the size of human hands" in mind and really want a return of some option in that class at some point.
This had slipped completely under my radar?
Looks like the wireless system recommended specs are a touch higher (graphics card) than what I recall the wired connection specs were when I was looking into VR headsets in iRacing? I’ll have to grab a new power supply and a 3xxx and give it a try with a client AVP.
Oh, and a WiFi card, been running iRacing on Ethernet forever so never saw a need for WiFi with this build..
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As the owner of an iPhone 13 mini, I feel your pain, and it is one of the main reasons I find it frustrating that some people think only products they personally desire should ever be made.
If a person likes their house, I would never even consider begrudging them that house because I personally have no need for it, and I honestly don’t understand the viewpoint of anyone that want to crap on other people’s desires. That kind of thinking leads to everyone wearing the same shade of grey. People complain here that Apple doesn’t innovate enough, yet seem to only want them to make products for the lowest common denominator, but time has proven that Apple needs to design products like the Lisa before they get to the Mac, so we should all hope they keep “wasting” money at least trying new product concepts.
Happy to help. It sounds pretty good from the posts I’ve seen, but I haven’t tried it personally and it would be great to get more local feedback about it here, so please let us know how it works for you.
It’ll be a while, I’m in the middle of repairs and upgrades for the real life car for #funwithcars stuff.
I use it every weekday for work and love it! I’m happy that a company like apple can take risks and push tech forward in such an amazing futuristic way. It’s like the wow factor of the first iPhone.
Yes, streaming YouTube while browsing other tabs constantly lowers the refresh rate and dims the display. Used it for over a year like this. Still fantasitc but I do wish I didn’t reach performance limits so quickly.
Take a long nap, we will wake you up when that happens, if ever...
So 2 people.
I asked seriously. Got snarky, butt-hurt answer from 2 users. So, I went looking myself, not deep. Superficial estimates. Real world, should not make v2.
Some stats (estimates) "..the company sold around 370,000 to 420,000 Vision Pro.."
In contrast to Iphone 15 Pro: 16.9 million.
Maybe this is positive ultimately (but still):
- Market Context:
Vision Pro's first-year sales were considered low compared to other tech products, but they had a significant impact on the nascent headworn AR market due to its high price point and advanced technology.
- Market Context:
…You seemingly don’t understand marketing segmentation nor manufacturing/supply chain resource management
/strategy.
The Vision Pro is not for most people nor any manufacturer can ever scale its parts and quality anywhere close to mainstream sales of an iPhone.
The Vision Pro’s screen alone costs more than most iPhones.
Apple is not obligated to enter any new category targeting mainstreamers first. They didn’t. Glasses almost on par with the Vision Pro’s would cost much more; Meta’s $10,000 didn’t come close to the Vision Pro’s sharpness and HDR specs.
Their newly announced glasses with display isn’t close either.
You’re expressing thinly veiled entitlement and make a believe sales metrics for the Vision Pro overly fixated on it appeasing mainstream consumers that it isn’t for.
That’s like calling Apple’s Pro Display XDR, Porsche Teycan, AMD’s Theadrippers, and Nvidia 5090s failures because most cannot afford or justify them and their sales dwarf far lesser alternatives that sells more with more modest users of the product category.
Buyers of such things to make most ROI of them don’t care most cannot afford or justified them.
People have clear use and ROI for such things in mind compared to pure consumers or mainstreamers. They’re also not usually bottlenecked most cannot justify or afford such things.
That’s usually a pure consumer issue with modest/basic needs for a product category.
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