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lol That parody video is epic win. I'm glad to see that someone is fighting back. That "Laptop Hunter" ad I saw kind of urked me, especially with the what the dude said about Macs. Um... not true!
 
What I like to do is pop in an SD card into my MBP, (USB input) play HD movies, blu-ray rips, DVDs, do photoshop work on two monitors (Photoshop Win64 doesn't handle multiple monitors well) edit video using FCP, which I find far superior to Premier, surf the web using Firefox, Safari 4, etc., edit and mix music using Logic Pro, and listen to music with iTunes. Besides, a Mac can do anything you mention above by running windows, sans FCStudio, Logic Pro, and Photoshop using more than one monitor.

can you rotate your monitors to portrait in OSX? (i ask this becuase for documents like PDF's and poster art its WAY easier to do it in portrait)
 
dont need a card reader, i would assume you dont need your USB ports, firewire, eSATA, HDMI, hell just have NO PORTS on your laptop. no body needs them, you dont need a screen either, you can just imagine your desktop and imagine yourself doing some work.

Yes, because I prefer to use usb instead of dealing with little cards, I dont need any ports at all.
:rolleyes:
 
Yup, Macs users are smarter and cooler than pc users.


Haha, I concur. :cool::D

is that why mac users all hang out at starbucks and all have the exact same laptop and will pay whatever apple tells them too?

the mac users at my place of work are actaully the stupidest ones out of all.

one user actaully said "why is pc hardware so crappy that it cant run OSX?"
 
Yes, because I prefer to use usb instead of dealing with little cards, I dont need any ports at all.
:rolleyes:

do you have any idea of freaking slow USB transfer is off a canon rebel xti? let alone any other model of camera?

lets see your "USB" port outperform my SDHC reader in my Asus laptop when taking pictures off a camera

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not everyone has the luxury of dicking around waiting for 8GB transfers to happen.
 
Yes, because I prefer to use usb instead of dealing with little cards, I dont need any ports at all.
:rolleyes:

After comparing a USB cable to my Macbook versus popping the SD card into my Dell, I actually prefer the SD card route now. My DSLR camera (and most of my friend's cameras) has an annoying rubber guard on the USB port that makes it annoying to plug in a cable.

I import photos on the PC these days through the SD card and then send it over the network to the Macbook if needed.

I don't want an SD card reader in my Macbook though. It would ruin the look. But for transferring photos, I find an SD card much faster and more convenient than lugging around a USB cable.
 
Guys, I was talking personally about me not wanting a card reader. Why?

Because when it comes to pictures, im as average of a joe schmoe as possible. The speed difference between usb and sdhc affects me in no way at all.

I wasn't speaking for the industry, merely for myself, but god forbid I don't personally have a need for every port ever made.

Edit: I also dont drag cables around, because any transfers to my computer take place at home, because im an average guy who doesnt fill up an entire memory card, pretty much ever.
 
EPIC FAIL. :rolleyes:

/Applications/Utilities/Console.app

More system-level and application info than you can shake a stick at. Just because Apple has decided not shove cryptic error messages into the user's face at every turn, doesn't mean it's not there for power users. You just have to know where to look. And the Mac system logs are certainly far more descriptive and informative than the Windows system logs. I've dealt with both. Most of the Windows ones leave me scratching my head and having to go to numerous sites just to translate it to intelligible English.

right becuase when your mac keeps rebooting ENDLESSLY you can always load the error logs

WTFerror.jpg


when windows bluescreens it TELLS YOU what file is having a problem (NVGTS with a quick 2 second google, means the SATA driver isnt working properly or is not the CORRECT driver (theres SATA/IDE and RAID)

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right becuase when your mac keeps rebooting ENDLESSLY you can always load the error logs
If you can't get into safe boot or single user mode to read the logs straight out of /var/log then you have a more serious problem. I pointed this out in the last thread.

My complaint is still when OS X logs nothing at all. This is much too common an occurrence when you have to hard reset a machine.
 
difference being fully realized on a 15" screen when comparing movies. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'd never see it and/or care.

For me the point isn't that the 15" is ideal for watching BD movies - the point is that I have purchased a large number of BD movies and I'd like to watch them on my laptop. ...and I can.


I import photos on the PC these days through the SD card and then send it over the network to the Macbook if needed.

I don't want an SD card reader in my Macbook though. It would ruin the look. But for transferring photos, I find an SD card much faster and more convenient than lugging around a USB cable.

:D - so you buy into the form over function argument...
 
right becuase when your mac keeps rebooting ENDLESSLY you can always load the error logs

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when windows bluescreens it TELLS YOU what file is having a problem (NVGTS with a quick 2 second google, means the SATA driver isnt working properly or is not the CORRECT driver (theres SATA/IDE and RAID)

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How are you doing a quick google on a machine that is currently bluescreened?
 
If you can't get into safe boot or single user mode to read the logs straight out of /var/log then you have a more serious problem. I pointed this out in the last thread.

My complaint is still when OS X logs nothing at all. This is much too common an occurrence when you have to hard reset a machine.

The Windows Live CD is good for getting into a Windows system stuck in a crash loop.

Is there a Live CD for OSX so that you could look at the logs?
 
For me the point isn't that the 15" is ideal for watching BD movies - the point is that I have purchased a large number of BD movies and I'd like to watch them on my laptop. ...and I can.

Thats fair enough. I just A) don't own ANY blu-ray player or disc and B) typically only watch converted movies on either my laptop or iPhone (when traveling) so I'm one of the folks who doesn't care about that one way or the other.
 
The Windows Live CD is good for getting into a Windows system stuck in a crash loop.

Is there a Live CD for OSX so that you could look at the logs?
Anything that will mount a HFS+ volume should work. Short of permission weirdness and the filesystem to begin with.

I do keep a spare external drive with OS X installed around though. It's useful.
 
The Windows Live CD is good for getting into a Windows system stuck in a crash loop.

Is there a Live CD for OSX so that you could look at the logs?
There is a osx live cd, but its osx86. It also requires a dual-layer dvd. Look up iPC, its made by ~Pcwiz, who is pretty much the current driving force in osx86 development.
 
can you rotate your monitors to portrait in OSX? (i ask this becuase for documents like PDF's and poster art its WAY easier to do it in portrait)

Canvas rotation is indeed possible while using Adobe CS4, and yes, I find portrait much easier to work with, as the canvas fills the screen most efficiently.
 
Sorry to stray off-topic but thats an apples-oranges comparison. Preferring a BMW over a Hyundai is not "hiding behind a brand name". Have you ever driven a BMW? Now, have you ever driven a Hyundai?

I've driven both and to be honest, before I drove a Bimmer I thought they were a overhyped as well. Let me tell you, its not. Let me also add that I have never owned a BMW either, but I've spent time both riding in and driving them. My wife owns a Hyundai...

I don't care how "nice" the Genesis is...it ain't no BMW.

have you ever driven a hyundai genesis/coupe? its a diffrent playing field, its NOTHING like their other cars. and yes i used to work at a dealership, bmw leather is CRAP, not to mention most of the bmw drivers out there dont know a ratchet from a spanner.

and your "i dont care" comment just proves how ignorant you are, things change, i used to think VW was reliable, now they are the worst crap you can buy (being made in mexico instead of germany) go look on JD power, VW is 2nd last

just for kicks, hyundai is now more reliable than bmw, hyundai also has a longer warranty on both bumper to bumper and power train.

Canvas rotation is indeed possible while using Adobe CS4, and yes, I find portrait much easier to work with, as the canvas fills the screen most efficiently.

but can you rotate your entire monitor? (physically and softwarewise)

your display resolution instead of 1920x1080, you will have 1080x1920, dell monitor stands allow you to have it both ways, some samsung LCd's even have a sensor and software to go with it and will auto rotate when you flip your monitor.

I dont have the luxury of having a smartphone.

a smartphone costs .... well.. nothing? as long as you are signing up for a 2 year plan.
 
How many people using macs really give a damn about their ability to playback high quality audio on bluray, when the majority of people don't know an mp4 file from an mp3.

Obviously those using Macs don't care about a lot of things, and thats why they made the choice to go with a platform that is more limited and offers less functionality.

You say "everything 'real' requires Windows". What are you talking about?! What is "real" that you cannot do with a Mac? The only thing you mention is gaming, which yes, often requires Windows. But if anything, that's as far from your "real world work" as you can get!

And don't forget that gamers outnumber Mac users in total by a fairly large number ;)

And like other posters stated in the other threads regarding these ads, the only way you get guaranteed compatibility with Windows software is by using Windows software. So if you want to use a Mac in "real business environment" you have to run Windows. Because theres no way of knowing if your stuff will be fully compatible.

As for the perennial expandability issue/myth with the macs I don't get it why you would want to upgrade the gfx card to begin with? If you are not satisfied with your machine and don't want to be using it for the next 4 or so years then why buy it in the fist place? By the time these 4 years come the techonology from everything from cpu to ram speeds to drives (which you CAN update) to screen will have changed sooo much that your upgrade will not be a rational choice to go put a brand you gfx card to four year old machine. I challenge you go find a wintel 4 year old machine and put that gfx card in and see if it makes any difference, do it even on a three year old

No machine is going to last 4 years without upgrades of some kind. It's impossible. Being able to upgrade means you can stay on the bleeding edge while spending very little money. You buy a motherboard with a socket that is going to be around for a few years and can handle a lot of RAM. After a couple of years you can max out the CPU it can handle, throw in a faster GPU, and upgrade the RAM. Thanks to the age of the motherboard, you've gotten yourself the equivalent of a new computer at rock bottom prices. You can literally go and buy a "whole" new PC every 4 years with upgrading every two and still spend around 40% less than you would on one Mac every 4 years.

why should apple bother with that crowd, their all in one strategy is flawless imo

Well, for one thing, that market you talk down about is larger than Apple's entire market right now. Second, if Apple's strategy was "flawless", why did their marketshare shrink? Why are they only at about 3% worldwide and now under 8% in the US? Exactly.

Aside from Photoshop 64 being unable to work with two monitors, (making it unusable for many)

Well, OS X doesn't have proper multi-display support anyway. The portables can't even properly handle external displays, requiring you to jump through hoops to get the external display going without the internal display being active, plus once you do get it going you have to cross your fingers and pray that OS X's limited resolution options just happen to have your monitor's native resolution listed. If not you have to buy 3rd party applications that hack proper resolution support into the OS.

I've been googling and see nothing current regarding Photoshop CS 4 64-bit not supporting multiple displays?

indows inablity to run Final Cut Studio, which is far superior to Adobe CS - Premier

Apple Apologist opinion. Not fact.

Windows inability to run Logic Pro, which is superior to Protools (which Mac runs very well) in regard to MIDI and synth mixing

Again, Apple apologist opinion. Not fact. Theres a reason ProTools is the standard in the industry.

Windows does not function reliably enough to be considered when running several apps at once

Oh please, don't even try to bring up the stability argument with me. I've had OS X crash in so many different ways its ridiculous. And even amazing. The world's "most advanced operating system" somehow manages to crash when delete JPEG files from the Trash, or when clicking "Burn" in a "Burn Folder" or when looking at game screenshots in Safari at gamespot.com. I've also had other fun issues. I personally liked the issues I had with the optical audio output. If I plugged in an optical audio cable while the system was running, or unplugged it after starting it up with it connected, the system would refuse to shut down. It'd go like it was going to shut down then just stop and do nothing. The system also wouldn't eject DVDs during that time either. That was with 10.5.2 I think.

So yeah, if you want to talk about OS stability, let's talk about OS X. I've been using Vista longer than I've been using Leopard and Vista, even during its launch days, has been 100x more stable than Leopard and Tiger. I've never had Vista crash. Not once. I've lost track of how many times OS X has come crashing down on me.

Don't forget that Windows also has more than half a decade of pre-emptive multi-tasking experience under its belt. Apple had that lovely "co-operative" multi-tasking gong on in Mac OS up until OS X was released. That couldn't have been fun at all.

But even so, if yo can afford it you still CAN go for the mac pro and be sorted for the coming 5 years

HAH! Gaming for 5 years on a Mac Pro? Yeah I'd like to see that. The Mac Pro ships with a low-end consumer grade card and the most powerful card you can get for it is already several months old and not anywhere near as fast as whats available for the PC. For a "Pro" system that costs so much, the GPU options for the Mac "Pro" are amateur at best. Mostly low-end consumer budget cards with one decent one that still isn't even close to what high end consumer and "Pro" cards are available for the PC.

And that Xeon processor? Yeah thats a server processor. It's good for fetching data or processing predicable data, like photoshop streams or encoding bland video. Put it in a gaming environment and the Core 2 and Core i7s will have no problem embarrassing those who bought the Mac Pro for gaming.

the magsafe has been a boon to a clumsy oaf like me

Wait until the cord frays and it becomes a fire hazard ;)

Yes, because I prefer to use usb instead of dealing with little cards, I dont need any ports at all.

I can have the card out of my camera, in the computer, and all of the images off of it in about the same amount of time it takes to connect the USB cables, power on the camera and wait for iPhoto to open. Then after that you have to wait for what seems like hours for iPhoto to pull the pictures off. It's ridiculous.

USB card readers or pulling pictures of cameras just doesn't even begin to compare to the speed you get with a dedicated internal card reader.

Because when it comes to pictures, im as average of a joe schmoe as possible. The speed difference between usb and sdhc affects me in no way at all.

I'm not a photographer either. I just have a 2 and a half year old 6MP camera with a 512MB SD card. It holds about 200 pictures at full quality. Even taking 30 or 40 pictures takes forever and a day to import via USB, especially when using iPhoto. One time my sister, with the same setup, wanted me to pull the pictures off her memory card. It was full (she had just taken her son on a little trip). I was able to start the transfer, get up, leave, get something to eat, come back, and iPhoto still wasn't even half done. When it was finished I popped it in the PC. It didn't even take a minute for all of the pictures to be pulled off the card.

The sad thing is, iPhoto is so slow that its faster to pull the images off the card on the PC and transfer them over to iPhoto on the Mac via the network than it is to try to pull the pictures off the camera directly.
 
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