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Apple and 52 other major companies have signed a Supreme Court brief in support of seventeen-year-old Gavin Grimm, a young transgender man who's fighting with his local school district for the right to use the bathroom of his corresponding gender identity (via The New York Times).

Other than Apple, the tech companies include Amazon, Microsoft, PayPal, Twitter, Tumblr, Yelp, eBay, Airbnb, and more. There are also a few companies not in the tech field that have signed the brief, among them including GAP, Warby Parker, Williams-Sonoma, and MAC Cosmetics.

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All of the companies signed a brief that will be filed today by gay rights organization the Human Rights Campaign, who is urging the Supreme Court to rule in Grimm's favor. Grimm is represented by the American Civil Liberties Union in his fight against the Gloucester County School Board in his home state of Virginia. The case dates back to 2015 and the Supreme Court agreed to rule on it back in October of 2016.
"These companies are sending a powerful message to transgender children and their families that America's leading businesses have their backs," Chad Griffin, the Human Rights Campaign's president, said in a statement announcing the support.
Grimm's case is heating up in the face of President Donald Trump's decision to remove guidelines put in place by the Obama administration, specifically covering the use of public bathrooms, showers, and locker rooms by transgender students. The previous rules allowed transgender individuals to use the bathroom of their corresponding gender identity, but now it's up to the states to decide whether or not to support the guidelines or put in place a more restrictive system.

Last week, when Trump's decision was announced, Apple spoke out against the move and reiterated on its belief that "everyone deserves a chance to thrive in an environment free from stigma and discrimination." The Cupertino company also vocally disagreed with Trump's immigration executive order, joining another legal brief supported by nearly 100 U.S. companies in opposition to that immigration policy.

Apple has long supported and fought for the rights of LGBTQ individuals, marching in the annual San Francisco pride parade each summer and condemning legislation that would freely allow businesses to turn away gay and lesbian customers -- which was signed into law by Mike Pence in Indiana two years ago. A subsequent amendment to the religious freedom legislation was passed in the weeks after the initial law was signed, granting more protection to LGBTQ customers in the state of Indiana.

For the new case regarding Gavin Grimm, the Supreme Court is set to hear oral arguments from both sides at the end of March.

Note: Due to the political nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Politics, Religion, Social Issues forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Apple Among 53 Companies Supporting Transgender Student in Supreme Court Case
 
I am really, really, sick of reading all this transgender/bathroom/etc. crap. The human species is male and female. If someone makes a CHOICE to live a deviant lifestyle, I don't see why they should get special attention and privileges.
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Trump is an idiot an a poor excuse of a president.

Don't be another liberal robot spouting what hear other people saying. Trump did not take away anyone's rights. His decision was to leave these policies to the state level.
 
Time to get rid of gender bathrooms then or people are impinging on my right as a straight man to use whatever bathroom I want when other men can use it no problem. Who is to say that I don't feel like a woman but chose to dress as a man? Trust me when a bunch of dudes start going into the womens bathroom and dropping big smelly dumps they won't be a fan, and when all the women start taking up the stalls in the mens bathroom because their line is too long the men won't be a fan either
 
If the transgender male is the slightly overweight person with the blue "ACLU" then I as a male have no objection for him using the male toilet, and I think many females would be surprised / worried / weirded out if he followed Trump's instructions and used the female toilets.

I am really, really, sick of reading all this transgender/bathroom/etc. crap. The human species is male and female. If someone makes a CHOICE to live a deviant lifestyle, I don't see why they should get special attention and privileges.
That's a deeply un-christian attitude. There's no deviant life style. God in his infinite wisdom gives some people the wrong body, and many affected fix their problem. Even in Iran, the religious leaders accept transgender people and _encourage_ them to make changes to live in the right body. Do you really want to show yourself as being more backward than these people?

What you say is like saying "members of the human species have two arms and two legs". Well, some don't. That doesn't make them deviant.
 
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I am really, really, sick of reading all this transgender/bathroom/etc. crap. The human species is male and female. If someone makes a CHOICE to live a deviant lifestyle, I don't see why they should get special attention and privileges.
Dont spout the conservative drivel. All people should be treated equally. Civil rights are a federal matter.
 
I am really, really, sick of reading all this transgender/bathroom/etc. crap. The human species is male and female. If someone makes a CHOICE to live a deviant lifestyle, I don't see why they should get special attention and privileges.
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Don't be another liberal robot spouting what hear other people saying. Trump did not take away anyone's rights. His decision was to leave these policies to the state level.

The fact that you think it's a choice shows just how poorly informed and ignorant you are. Have some tolerance and compassion. Besides, how does this impact you in the first place? Why do you care? Trump is a con artist and a criminal with deep ties to Russia, white supremacy and troublesome special interests. He is a disgrace.
 
More congressmen have been arrested for crimes in bathrooms than trans people. There is no case and in fact on the logic of this we should ban all government workers from using the bathroom. Also we need to get religion out of schools and politics and eradicate such backward opinions.
 
Time to get rid of gender bathrooms then or people are impinging on my right as a straight man to use whatever bathroom I want when other men can use it no problem. Who is to say that I don't feel like a woman but chose to dress as a man? Trust me when a bunch of dudes start going into the womens bathroom and dropping big smelly dumps they won't be a fan, and when all the women start taking up the stalls in the mens bathroom because their line is too long the men won't be a fan either
The difference is: One is a transgender person who goes where he or she belongs, which just doesn't agree with his or her birth certificate. The other group you are talking about are a bunch of perverted *******s. If a "dude" goes to the women's bathroom then I'm quite sure there will be a lot of volunteers to drag him out. By his ears if he is lucky.
 
More congressmen have been arrested for crimes in bathrooms than trans people. There is no case and in fact on the logic of this we should ban all government workers from using the bathroom. Also we need to get religion out of schools and politics and eradicate such backward opinions.

Reminds me of the whole bathroom stall foot tapping Larry Craig debacle in Minneapolis bathroom 10 years back
 
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If the transgender male is the slightly overweight person with the blue "ACLU" then I as a male have no objection for him using the male toilet, and I think many females would be surprised / worried / weirded out if he followed Trump's instructions and used the female toilets.


That's a deeply un-christian attitude. There's no deviant life style. God in his infinite wisdom gives some people the wrong body, and many affected fix their problem. Even in Iran, the religious leaders accept transgender people and _encourage_ them to make changes to live in the right body. Do you really want to show yourself as being more backward than these people?

What you say is like saying "members of the human species have two arms and two legs". Well, some don't. That doesn't make them deviant.
God didn't give him or them anything, evolution did.
 
I am really, really, sick of reading all this transgender/bathroom/etc. crap. The human species is male and female. If someone makes a CHOICE to live a deviant lifestyle, I don't see why they should get special attention and privileges.
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Don't be another liberal robot spouting what hear other people saying. Trump did not take away anyone's rights. His decision was to leave these policies to the state level.

WELL SAID
 
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